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I was thinking about this subject over recent days and to a degree we already do it, those least inteligent and weedy do tend to be the people that do not end up finding a mate.

I also think anybody interested in this stuff may like to read the works of Neitche who believed that the ultimate goal of procreation was to create people who would advance society the most and even that women should be judged on that..
“the spirit of civilization,” society must encourage breeding among the best stock and prevent it among the worst “without further delay".

http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=23327

His work of course was jumped on by the Nazis although eugenics in the form of forced sterelisation was practiced in the USA and Scandinavia around the same time.

Certainly an interesting concept, perhaps instead of asking for a girls number we should ask for a copy of her genome.
 
Why even ponder the sparta route, when we can build an advanced superior human via genetic and biochemical manipulation along with computer interface/enhancements? Supposedly, their have been programs running in the background for years that have been investigating and possibly creating such super soldiers.

The article below is written in 2008 and is probably just the tip of the iceberg:


http://nextbigfuture.com/2008/07/3-billion-super-soldier-program-10.html


A side note is that technology (supposedly) that has been created by secret government programs / labs is probably 20-30 years more advanced than the technology you currently have access to, or own. Do I have proof of this? No, but I suspect there is some truth to this. As is often said, "Truth is stranger then fiction", this is just my two cents.

Now if they would release to MOS, their secret 20-30 year advanced penis building techniques I would be really happy !!
 
I think unconditional love for others and diversity are healthy things for our civilization. In picking and choosing what kind people live in our society existed, we would just not value those anymore. This is why manipulating the genetics of a child not yet born to suit the desires the parents have is ethically troublesome.

Of course there is something to be said about people that no longer have meaningful lives and whether they should be euthanized. That delves into questions of what life is and why we value others being alive in the first. I'd suggest reading some bioethics by James Rachels, or any other bioethicist that would debate with him, maybe Don Marquis?
 
"A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members." ~ Mahatma Gandhi
 
MAXAMEYES;476136 said:
"A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members." ~ Mahatma Gandhi



I don't agree with this at all. I am not saying we should kill anyone for any reason. I don't believe in abortion is right. An unborn child is still alive.

BUT.....

It is stupid to keep someone on life support. Someone that is a vegetable at thousands of dollars a day with this no chance of recovery. There is no reason to give 87 year old granny a heart transplant or bypass on the governments ticket. There is a point to retardation when the quality of life will be so low and the cost will be astonishing high.

There is a point when we should throw in the towel. Not for the good of the parents or the person but for the good as society as a whole. It is a very tricky subject because where is the line?

The fact is with advances in medical treatment people can live longer but for a cost. Now many times the cost is past to the general population. This is not fair. But if you do for one you must do for all. It is not the governments responsibility to support someone because their mom smoked crack and drank a 30 pack everyday she was pregnant and they were born half brain dead.

It needs to be done. A line needs to be drawn but it will never happen.
 
Oh and about breeding better humans...it will not happen. We will evolve to be bigger and stronger for a short period of time. Like 2-500 more years. Then because of technology over population and lack of adequate food sources we will start to shrink in size. There will just be no reason to be 6'7" 275 and built like a brick house. That is if we even make it that long before going extinct.
 
You just better keep praying that whoever draws this line makes a mistake...so you somehow end up above the cutoff.



rebel2011;476137 said:
I don't agree with this at all. I am not saying we should kill anyone for any reason. I don't believe in abortion is right. An unborn child is still alive.

BUT.....

It is stupid to keep someone on life support. Someone that is a vegetable at thousands of dollars a day with this no chance of recovery. There is no reason to give 87 year old granny a heart transplant or bypass on the governments ticket. There is a point to retardation when the quality of life will be so low and the cost will be astonishing high.

There is a point when we should throw in the towel. Not for the good of the parents or the person but for the good as society as a whole. It is a very tricky subject because where is the line?

The fact is with advances in medical treatment people can live longer but for a cost. Now many times the cost is past to the general population. This is not fair. But if you do for one you must do for all. It is not the governments responsibility to support someone because their mom smoked crack and drank a 30 pack everyday she was pregnant and they were born half brain dead.

It needs to be done. A line needs to be drawn but it will never happen.
 
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