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Ok guys.. I've stumbled upon something AMAZINGGGGGGGGGGGG y0!

It's called Arginine Ethyl Ester! It's Arginine, but since barely any of regular Arginine gets absorbed and is used because it gets broken down before it reaches your intestines, the Ethyl Ester makes it MUCHHH more potent so you don't need to take as much.

That said.. I've been taking 10 grams of Arginine Ethyl Ester everynight for 4 weeks exactly. That's probably closer to 15-20grams or so of regular Arginine.

The results...

I've over 8inches now! almost 8.5. Girth-wise, it's reallll thick! No problems to get to 6" girth with NORMAL erection!

One other benefit I should mention is, I workout and this has made my muscles and veins plump as fuck aswell! In a good way. Also.. believe it or not.. I could barely believe it, but I actually GREW about an inch in HEIGHT! I swear to fucking god! I guess thats what all the headaches I was having was about (growth spurt).

10-30 grams of argingine taken on an empty stomach at bedtime will increase growth hormone production, so you need to be taking AT LEAST 10 grams per night of the stuff.

The only downfall to all of this, is that it can get really expensive, and if it works you can get hooked for life on it.. like I probably will be from now on. lol

Im not sure if the dick gains are permanent.. but the height should be since I havent done much stretching or anything for that.

By the way since I take Argingine Ethyl Ester, if you're taking regular Argingine I'd recommend taking 15-20grams of it and not 10.

Someone care to experiment with this stuff like I have? I REALLY wanna know if this stuff is as good as I think it is and how comparable results are.. let me know!

Also.. I forgot to mention, I'm 19 years old.
 
id love to try this it sound great, where did u get it and how much is it? thanx
 
obviously this all sounds a little far fetched but I am very interested to say the least. I would love to hear what others have to say on this.. Also why don't you list exactly what product you take and how much and where to get it.. Thanks again...
 
The reason I didn't mention the product is because I don't want anyone to think im trying to advertise anything and stuff like that, and you can get it anywhere its an amino acid, many websites have it.
 
yes but it's important to know what product exactly you are using... we won't think you are advertising.. also how did you stumble onto this, what is your main reason for using this stuff?
 
Brock Landers69 said:
yes but it's important to know what product exactly you are using... we won't think you are advertising.. also how did you stumble onto this, what is your main reason for using this stuff?

Okay well, I started using it for bodybuilding at first, and read up a lot about it, and heard that 10-30grams taken at bedtime on an empty stomach had a great potenial to boost human growth hormone and stimulate pituitary gland via inhibiting somatosin (sp?). somatosin production increases with age which decreases growth hormone, argingine inhibits this receptor.

Anyway so the main reason was for bodybuilding.. because at lower dosages it's known to give a great pump for muscles and etc.. but I became interested in the higher dosages because of the greater potenial it had.

btw.. I do Penis Enlargement for over 1 hour a day, jelqing, and i hang for 3-4 hours a day usually.. and workout 3 times a week or more intensely.

This is what I got http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=1839

I should probably mention.. I think the only reason I grew in height was because of my young age and growth plates not fused.. arginine just increased my natural potenial a bit by increasing HGH IMO... So I think this supplement is really beneficial to the young guys especially.
 
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Well, considering that you're only 18, this doesn't really say much about the efficacy of the product. You may have just been going through a growth spurt. It happens to people around your age. As far as it increasing growth hormone, this is false. It has been shown to do so when stacked w/ornithine but on its own, it just stimulates the production of NO. I know tons of people that take actual HGH and there are no growth spurts on them because their growth plates have fused. It does have a positive effect on erections, no doubt, but the amount of biological crap that it leaves behind, namely ethyl alcohol, and the amount of free radicals it creates in the body is not worth it to me. Make sure you are taking a hefty dose of antioxidants because you are consuming massive amounts @ 10 grams per night. I prefer Muira Puama, myself.
 
Bionic said:
Well, considering that you're only 18, this doesn't really say much about the efficacy of the product. You may have just been going through a growth spurt. It happens to people around your age. As far as it increasing growth hormone, this is false. It has been shown to do so when stacked w/ornithine but on its own, it just stimulates the production of NO. I know tons of people that take actual HGH and there are no growth spurts on them because their growth plates have fused. It does have a positive effect on erections, no doubt, but the amount of biological crap that it leaves behind, namely ethyl alcohol, and the amount of free radicals it creates in the body is not worth it to me. Make sure you are taking a hefty dose of antioxidants because you are consuming massive amounts @ 10 grams per night. I prefer Muira Puama, myself.

I turned 19 in october..



"There is a large body of scientific study on the effects of L-arginine on growth hormone release. In fact, the administration of a large dose of L-arginine is the standard test for the ability of the pituitary to release growth hormone. (It is generally believe that L-arginine promotes HGH release by inhibiting somatostatin). L-arginine has many other benefits in addition to being a growth hormone releaser. See the chapter of this manual on Arginine for additional information about using arginine as a growth hormone releaser and for safety warnings about the use of arginine.

There are several problems with the use of amino acids as HGH releasers. Their effectiveness generally diminishes with age, and with continued use. This has led some people to the opinion that amino acids such as L-arginine are weak HGH releasers. This can be a dangerous assumption. In some young people, L-arginine may actually cause dangerously high levels of HGH release. Many young people use L-arginine, but it should not be used by anyone until at least 5 years after they have completed their long bone growth (unless they are under close medical supervision).

I personally know of one 19 year-old female who took L-arginine before bedtime for one week. She stopped after one week because it was making her nauseous, which was an indication of an excessive level of HGH release. Even though she had not grown since she was 16, during the subsequent month, she grew an additional inch, and had a noticeable growth of her heel bones.

For most people, the doses of amino acids mentioned above (2 grams of L-glutamine and 10-30 grams of L-arginine) are about right for maintaining youthful levels of HGH beginning at about age 30, and continuing into the 40's, and sometimes (but rarely) beyond 50. In order to maintain its effectiveness, these amino acids should be used for about 6 weeks, then stopped for 2 or 3 weeks. The same 6-week ON, 2 or 3 weeks OFF cycle can be continued indefinitely. This cycling helps to maintain the effectiveness of the HGH release. "

from: http://www.futurescience.com/hgh.html
 
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Yeah, you're still going through puberty. I'm not trying to knock you or anything of the sort but terms like "It's generally believed to.." is far from saying "It actually does." See what I mean? Plus the study that you provided said that it's believed that GH release was promoted due to the inhibition of somatostain. Inhibiting somatostatin doesn't necessarily mean that you will produce more GH. It simply means that while you still produce the same amount of GH, it becomes able to exert more of its effects. In other words, more GH gets used because it's not nullified by somatostatin. This is NOT the same thing as making the body produce more GH. Why do you think people pay THOUSANDS of dollars annually for the real stuff? Oh and just because the girl in the anecdote was getting nauseous from her arginine doses does not mean that she was producing large amounts of GH. That's pretty ridiculous. It could possible mean that she was just nauseous from consuming large amounts of this amino acid.
Now if some of you older guys (like myself, hahaha!) are interested, there are peptides available that do in fact cause the body to produce huge amounts of HGH. The are called GHRP's (growth Hormone releasing peptides). Hexarelin is one of my favorites. But no one under 30 should even consider using this stuff.
 
hey velimirovich, i think most of us are curious after reading that. you seriously couldnt have recommended a more expensive product. lol. but how do you know these gains havent been the result of firmer erections? im assuming you get rock hard erections off this stuff.
 
Isnt it dangerous to take hgh after your bones have fused? I heard it causes acromegly or whatever andre the gaint had. basically your head, feet, head, and facial features get big and you look like a freak. Wouldnt this theoretically be dangerous for those of us whoes bones have already fused?
 
Nah dude. You're talking about people that abuse the hormone. If you look a bb'ing magazines and whatnot, you can see what abuse does (rigid brows, Gigantic heads, hands and feet and the crazy distended guts that most of them have.) If you do your reseach and follow the directions to the letter, you should be fine. In fact, better than fine. Oh and Andre's acromegaly was not the result of drug use.
 
Yeah i know it was because he had something stimulating his pituitary gland, liek the majority of cases of gigantism. Anyway, how does taking it properly ensure that it will work porperly and not cause side effects since everybodys body is different? At 19, your hgh levels should be alive and well. Taking it would increase chances for side effects.
 
Isnt antyhing with an ethyl ester molecule still in debate about the long term side effects? Since it is toxic? Well, creatine with an ethly ester added is believed to be.
 
I think the toxicity level situation is overblown. It's because the ethyl ester turns to ethyl alcohol once metabolized. It's a small amount. Much less than when you have a couple of drinks. The issue with CEE was because it is believed that the alteration that is made by adding the ester turns it into pure creatinine which is not such a good thing. It was fine as long as people didn't mega-dose the stuff.
 
You can buy it online as a workout supplement. Any NO product like NoExplode has it and many others
 
I'd be careful putting so much of that stuff into your body. You don't want to do something bad that will screw you over later! I prefer to do stuff without chemical help and let nature run her course. All the "modification" other than the basic vitamins and supplements/protein I take is work out, body, mind, and spirit.
 
Well, velimirovich sounds very excited about something. velimirovich, how were your ejaculation's while taking the product?
 
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