I know you did RedZulu, your the reason I even bought them and I truly shouldn't say there a waste of money because I only tried using one about 3-4 times. They probably do work very well for most people it just takes time to learn how to use them. Besides I want length right now my girth is fine at 6.5 on the Circ scar 6.75 base. I'm at 9 1/8" length BPenis EnlargementL but its a pain in the ass it keeps fluctuating down a 1/4" and back up. Only 2" to go.