Hey guys, I'd please like to know your opinions on these

1, How much pressure/force should be exerted on the penis when stretching with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]?

2, Would trapping the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] behind my thighs in a BTC angle and just leaving it there, while standing be enough to get a good stretch? I have tried it, and felt a mild stretch just want to know if its a no good waste of time

Thanks
 
Stretch with the force LUKE. You'll feel the difference between a great stretch and a painful stretch. Once you're comfortable, you'll be able to twist while stretching. Then you'll pull harder. Don't worry. Just don't go crazy until your ready. That's called "the lazy ass stretch" by the way lol with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]. I used to do that all the time while playing a game or reading lol with my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]. Good luck man
 
Lol @ the lazy ass stretch. . .
Thanks a lot guys. I am really going to get into this now. Used the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for 3 months gained a little then stopped. Moving on to BIGGER goals :)
 
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johnny-wang;649733 said:
Lol @ the lazy ass stretch. . .
Thanks a lot guys. I am really going to get into this now. Used the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for 3 months gained a little then stopped. Moving on to BIGGER goals :)

Were you consistent with your use of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] withing that 3 months? At what tension did you use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]?
 
huge-girth;649803 said:
Were you consistent with your use of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] withing that 3 months? At what tension did you use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]?

Max tension for a minimum of 4 hours a day, have it on for 2 hours and then take breaks in between. . . I gained flaccid length but the .25 erect I gained mostly came from manual stretching.
 
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johnny-wang;649733 said:
Lol @ the lazy ass stretch. . .

I used to get hours in a day with the LazyAss Stretches. Whenever I sat there was always a stretch going on:) Between these and the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]Ace[/words] Wrap I think I made a lot of my flaccid hang gains.
 
doublelongdaddy;649887 said:
I used to get hours in a day with the LazyAss Stretches. Whenever I sat there was always a stretch going on:) Between these and the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]Ace[/words] Wrap I think I made a lot of my flaccid hang gains.

Did you notice any erect gains?
 
johnny-wang;649971 said:
Did you notice any erect gains?

the lazy ass stretch and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap is mainly for flaccid gains...
 
johnny-wang;649854 said:
Max tension for a minimum of 4 hours a day, have it on for 2 hours and then take breaks in between. . . I gained flaccid length but the .25 erect I gained mostly came from manual stretching.

I'm surprised you wore it at max tension but your gains aren't big as expected. As for me, I will always add a new extension rod every 30 days no matter what.
 
huge-girth;650008 said:
I'm surprised you wore it at max tension but your gains aren't big as expected. As for me, I will always add a new extension rod every 30 days no matter what.

Doubt that is possible. . . Can't possibly extend past your actual length, correct me if I am wrong.
 
johnny-wang;650040 said:
Doubt that is possible. . . Can't possibly extend past your actual length, correct me if I am wrong.

It is possible if there is continuous growth. So if someone is in an active state of gaining they can certainly up the bar could until gains slow.
 
Okay guys heres the deal. . . I really want to stretch my penis with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words], but I am being a bit of a pussy Ironically. Even I can tell that I am being a bit to gentle don't want to stretch too hard and see blood at the tip, happened twice in the past and I HYPER FREAKED out!
 
Oh that's just a problem of your urethra, mine becomes irritated if do my jelqs/ulis too hard. It is sensitive up to two days, and I can't PE the pain bothers me. So just leave it alone until it heals, and do your exercises more carefully.

If you don't have actual pain maybe you are being a puss.
 
johnny-wang;650140 said:
Okay guys heres the deal. . . I really want to stretch my penis with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words], but I am being a bit of a pussy Ironically. Even I can tell that I am being a bit to gentle don't want to stretch too hard and see blood at the tip, happened twice in the past and I HYPER FREAKED out!

Just be gentle and listen to your body.
 
Lazy ass streches will require a lot of time in order to elicit deformation in the tissues, so 4h/day is not enougth IMO unless that is comparable to 1000g+ of tension that you would get from an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

In terms of force used it's a little bit tricky to explain but think at is like this, you're tissues will respond to a stress that is slighly higher then what they're used to(this is required to elicit tissue defirmation), the problem is that once they deform(trough tissue plasticity, colagen secretion and cell division) they also adapt to the stress so that means that the same ammount of tension will produce lower and lower stimulation over this point. This is the reasonehy everyone experiences slow downs or plateous after a few months. In order to keep gaining you'll have to increase the intensity over time(think increasing weight while hanging or number of sets/hours wearing [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]). So an answer will be, start with a tension that you feel gives you a good strech and increase over time, this is why is critical to start with the lowest ammount of tension so you'll have a lot of reserve for later.

Eventually the tissues will stop responding to the specific exersice all togheder rgardles of the amount of tension used and at this point you'll have to take a decon break and start with a new routine.

Good to be back :)
 
Blueballs;650241 said:
Lazy ass streches will require a lot of time in order to elicit deformation in the tissues, so 4h/day is not enougth IMO unless that is comparable to 1000g+ of tension that you would get from an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

You are right but at the time I could not afford the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] or [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JES[/words] (same device) they were starting at $900 and went as high as $1200. LazyAssStretches is what I did instead. I spent hours doing them and I have to think that they did help with gaining length, even if it was in a healing setting.
 
Blueballs;650241 said:
Lazy ass streches will require a lot of time in order to elicit deformation in the tissues, so 4h/day is not enougth IMO unless that is comparable to 1000g+ of tension that you would get from an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

In terms of force used it's a little bit tricky to explain but think at is like this, you're tissues will respond to a stress that is slighly higher then what they're used to(this is required to elicit tissue defirmation), the problem is that once they deform(trough tissue plasticity, colagen secretion and cell division) they also adapt to the stress so that means that the same ammount of tension will produce lower and lower stimulation over this point. This is the reasonehy everyone experiences slow downs or plateous after a few months. In order to keep gaining you'll have to increase the intensity over time(think increasing weight while hanging or number of sets/hours wearing [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]). So an answer will be, start with a tension that you feel gives you a good strech and increase over time, this is why is critical to start with the lowest ammount of tension so you'll have a lot of reserve for later.

Eventually the tissues will stop responding to the specific exersice all togheder rgardles of the amount of tension used and at this point you'll have to take a decon break and start with a new routine.

Good to be back :)

Welcome back Blue. Good to have you back. Still use your homemade hanger? Any progress so far?
 
johnny-wang;650140 said:
Okay guys heres the deal. . . I really want to stretch my penis with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words], but I am being a bit of a pussy Ironically. Even I can tell that I am being a bit to gentle don't want to stretch too hard and see blood at the tip, happened twice in the past and I HYPER FREAKED out!

why dont you try the inner penis stretching they can be better for you the base odf the penis gets in the chamber nn start your session stretching gradually until you get a stronger stretching
 
shortdick;650594 said:
why dont you try the inner penis stretching they can be better for you the base odf the penis gets in the chamber nn start your session stretching gradually until you get a stronger stretching

Thanks I will try that. . . Needless to say I did have a very good session today :)
 
master_mind;650617 said:
Is there is a limit to the strech of inner part. Or you can keep streching.

There will always be a limit to how much can be gained from internal structures but in most men it is quite a bit. If you trace your inner penis back you will find that there are inches of untapped penis. In my case I can trace back 8-10" internally.
 
doublelongdaddy;650672 said:
There will always be a limit to how much can be gained from internal structures but in most men it is quite a bit. If you trace your inner penis back you will find that there are inches of untapped penis. In my case I can trace back 8-10" internally.

8-10" WOW! How do you trace back?
How much can be gained/recovered from this?
 
johnny-wang;650678 said:
8-10" WOW! How do you trace back?
How much can be gained/recovered from this?

Start just below you shaft, on the underside, then trace back to the sphincter. Most men will have about the same I do.
 
johnny-wang;650859 said:
Thanks will check later ;)

You will really be amazed at how much you will find. The whole reason I came out with Expressive Stretching was too access this internal penis.
 
doublelongdaddy;650864 said:
You will really be amazed at how much you will find. The whole reason I came out with Expressive Stretching was too access this internal penis.

This makes a lot of sense. When erect, I can trace back a long penis hidden inside me. It's traceable when you are erect
 
huge-girth;651059 said:
This makes a lot of sense. When erect, I can trace back a long penis hidden inside me. It's traceable when you are erect

Damn, forgot to mention that part of it, duh! Yes, you need to be erect to trace how much internal penis you have. When flaccid no blood is in the internal penis (just as there is none in the outward penis). Being erect fills the entire length of penis outward and inward so you can actually feel how far back you internal penis goes.
 
One last question. . . How long do you leave your penis in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]? I mean during a 30 mins session how many breaks are necessary to avoid tissue damage due to circulation cut off?
 
johnny-wang;651371 said:
One last question. . . How long do you leave your penis in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]? I mean during a 30 mins session how many breaks are necessary to avoid tissue damage due to circulation cut off?

Mine is 15 minutes
 
yep two sessions of 15 mins each is great,sometimes 40 mins i do mind counting..n sometimes 30 sec in my mind aren't really 30 secs maybe im in the 35 to 40 secs...each stretching
 
shortdick;651413 said:
yep two sessions of 15 mins each is great,sometimes 40 mins i do mind counting..n sometimes 30 sec in my mind aren't really 30 secs maybe im in the 35 to 40 secs...each stretching

it's good to count with your mind because it's slower than normal.
 
johnny-wang;651492 said:
Which is dangerous in my opinion.

Actually you can feel when the penis needs a break..take the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] off n start over...
 
doublelongdaddy;651501 said:
They have a bunch of stuff on their page, which device are you asking about?

The bandage [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] at the bottom with illustrations. .
 
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huge-girth;651615 said:
The website looks like an amateur site.

RFLMAO. . . Obviously. Looks like some profit oriented BS.
Anyways I was talking solely about the stretch in my initial post :))
 
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johnny-wang;651506 said:
The bandage [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] at the bottom with illustrations. .

You can do the same thing with an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE bandage[/words]. It would not really give the best gains but definitely a good way to heal from length work.
 
doublelongdaddy;651824 said:
You can do the same thing with an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE bandage[/words]. It would not really give the best gains but definitely a good way to heal from length work.

Thanks DLD. . . However, I got a lil problem. So was doing my regular stretches earlier to day (15mins sets) , hoping to get in a one hour session. Was at the 30 mins mark when I noticed blood again! Not much, just a drop, no pains (even when I pee or get erect). So I stopped immediately. Question is should I resume tomorrow or take some days off? I don't feel any pain and I don't want to slow down my progress. . . However, I don't to have a 10 incher that's USELESS too, if you get my point. Thanks a lot.
 
johnny-wang;653060 said:
Thanks DLD. . . However, I got a lil problem. So was doing my regular stretches earlier to day (15mins sets) , hoping to get in a one hour session. Was at the 30 mins mark when I noticed blood again! Not much, just a drop, no pains (even when I pee or get erect). So I stopped immediately. Question is should I resume tomorrow or take some days off? I don't feel any pain and I don't want to slow down my progress. . . However, I don't to have a 10 incher that's USELESS too, if you get my point. Thanks a lot.

Take a break and check yourself properly. If possible wait for a whole week before resuming.
 
huge-girth;653082 said:
Take a break and check yourself properly. If possible wait for a whole week before resuming.

Think that's exactly what I'd do. . . Such a shame was really getting fatigued and sore ligs. I think I made some micro gains too lol.
 
johnny-wang;653132 said:
Think that's exactly what I'd do. . . Such a shame was really getting fatigued and sore ligs. I think I made some micro gains too lol.

The pains you are having will make gains come quickly. Just take the break and after the break is over, start slowly.
 
johnny-wang;653132 said:
Think that's exactly what I'd do. . . Such a shame was really getting fatigued and sore ligs. I think I made some micro gains too lol.

Soreness is king of indicative of gains early in the game (or later when a more intense exercise is introduced). Micro gains will become macro gains with commitment and consistency. If you are too sore to stretch give yourself some time off, but if you can make it through the soreness do so. I always trained through fatigue.
 
doublelongdaddy;653171 said:
Soreness is king of indicative of gains early in the game (or later when a more intense exercise is introduced). Micro gains will become macro gains with commitment and consistency. If you are too sore to stretch give yourself some time off, but if you can make it through the soreness do so. I always trained through fatigue.

Thanks DLD. . . You think I should take a week off due to the blood incident?
 
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