DLD, thank you for putting that out there. I used to do girth in the morning, pumping with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and was wanting to to stay wrapped all day but knew that would not be a good idea with fluid retention. So doing it the other way would seem to yield more results. So on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words], should I do the length portion of it in the morning, put on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for a couple of hours, wrap for the rest of the day then do girth in the PM? Does that sound like a good idea? Please advise. Thanks for all the advise you have given and thank you even more for this forum where I can learn and gain valuable insight, experience, and results from Penis Enlargement. You are awesome!!!