cladre60;730084 said:I'm not an expert on this but I'm gonna take a guess...
I would think it's possible to overdo it and your body is retracting to avoid injury or you're just heavily strained. Kinda like if you do a mega workout in the gym and you're really stiff and sore after.
But I'm gonna lean towards the long break taking a little away.
Now the experts can chime in and tell me if I guessed right or wrong because I'm just guessing.
megamike;730086 said:my thought process was exactly like yours,but I thought I would ask to know what I am doing wrong exactly to learn and avoid it.
cladre60;730090 said:Those are the scariest words I've read on this forum. They're even scarier than "permanent erectile injury."
The pros are gonna chime in later and if they think the same way we do then we're all doomed.
megamike;730092 said:lol its not that bad dude
cladre60;730093 said:My thought process is a horrific mutilation of intelligent thought riddled with insanity. It's certainly not for the weak minded.
Okay maybe it's not that bad lol.
Sinthious;730095 said:View attachment 32844 better insane then sane lol.
A long break could reduce your BPFSL if the gains were not cemented first. Also an intense work out could reduce the size especially if you choose to not use a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]UJW[/words] or something along that line to prevent turtleing, reason behind this is your body will see the change and want to bring it back in together to heal unless you keep it in a elongated position during this healing process you will constantly be fighting your body. Now not using a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]UJW[/words] (or what not) you will still gain just at a slower rate, I am no expert but this would be my best educated guess just dont take my sanity as being any better than cladre60's.
megamike;730082 said:Can your BPFSL decrease from exessive stretching after a long break? Or did the break cause thid decrease?
Sinthious;730095 said:View attachment 32844 better insane then sane lol.
A long break could reduce your BPFSL if the gains were not cemented first. Also an intense work out could reduce the size especially if you choose to not use a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]UJW[/words] or something along that line to prevent turtleing, reason behind this is your body will see the change and want to bring it back in together to heal unless you keep it in a elongated position during this healing process you will constantly be fighting your body. Now not using a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]UJW[/words] (or what not) you will still gain just at a slower rate, I am no expert but this would be my best educated guess just dont take my sanity as being any better than cladre60's.
Big Schwanz Acht;730098 said:A simple (perhaps too simple) analogy is the affect stretching has on a rubber band. Stretch for 5 seconds and release, the rubber band returns to its original shape. Stretch and hold for a few minutes and it returns to maybe 95% of its shape. Stretch the holy crap out of it and hold it for 5-10 minutes and it will struggle to return but will have lost some 'elasticity'. Rinse/repeat
*caveat emptor* everybody's 'rubber band' has a slightly different make-up, so what works for one may do the opposite for another...the only constant I see with my routine is consistency and force provide gains, (and when I say 'consistency', this means every day for over 2 years).
p.s. my mind works in a similar fashion, Cladre
cladre60;730134 said:Your attachment doesn't work.
Another insanity candidate! Lol
Sinthious;730097 said:How much of a decrease did you experience? How long was your break? and last what is your routine? Those questions may help someone identify whats happening.
doublelongdaddy;730100 said:The decrease was most likely uncemented gains. Why did you stop?
Making length gains stick takes consistency and a deformation of the Tunica. The Tunica is very important in this as it limits the length and girth we can gain due to it's density. The Tunica has a density of around 95% making it only 5% elastic. This sounds discouraging at first look but not is really a blessing. Since the Tunica is so dense, when it is deformed it will never return to the size it was. Big used the example of an rubber band, that would apply to ligaments and there is great merit in this. Eventually the elasticity will give way but it is vital that the Tunica is prepared to accept and cement those increases. I hope this makes sense.
Sinthious;730159 said:Half a cm isnt bad over 2-3 months hard to say completely as that long enough for a slight decrease of uncemented gains but body weight changes including muscle loss could affect that amount as well. I know the term uni as slang for the mental hospital in town so i am not sure that's what your talking about lol. Thats Great dont let anything or anyone stop you from making you the best person you can be and with that attitude you can accomplish anything you set your mind too.
doublelongdaddy;730100 said:The decrease was most likely uncemented gains. Why did you stop?
Making length gains stick takes consistency and a deformation of the Tunica. The Tunica is very important in this as it limits the length and girth we can gain due to it's density. The Tunica has a density of around 95% making it only 5% elastic. This sounds discouraging at first look but not is really a blessing. Since the Tunica is so dense, when it is deformed it will never return to the size it was. Big used the example of an rubber band, that would apply to ligaments and there is great merit in this. Eventually the elasticity will give way but it is vital that the Tunica is prepared to accept and cement those increases. I hope this makes sense.
acromegaly;730191 said:time off is definitely a killer. although i noticed if u do it periodically it can give me a personal best to do a hard sesh right after a day or two off
acromegaly;730191 said:time off is definitely a killer. although i noticed if u do it periodically it can give me a personal best to do a hard sesh right after a day or two off
eugine8plz;730185 said:Im going to have to agree with DLD on this one. Before i took 4 months off of PE (busy schedule) i was about 8.1" BPFSL and now since i have started back up again i am back at around 7.8". Consistency is KEY. If you want to cement gains i would say always be doing PE even it is just a few sessions a week for about 10 minutes, or you can go about .5" over your goal size so that your goal size will be your new cemented size.
Adamtf1982;730445 said:And I'd say, there could be a slight amount of overthinking going on too......lol, half a cm.....that's what, less than a quarter of an inch...... Flaccid length, is very unpredictable, and affected by seems like everything!! Temp, mood, activity, inactivity......they can all, and many more, can make it vary. I wouldn't stress over it too much. But, if also say, it could've been from the break, or a hard workout, either one.
megamike;730463 said:I know,but you surely know the feeling that your hard earned gains may be lost,well,some of them lol
Adamtf1982;730471 said:For sure! But.....that usually just makes it worse! Lol, a little stressing, and he'll just keep backing up! Lol.
Adamtf1982;730471 said:For sure! But.....that usually just makes it worse! Lol, a little stressing, and he'll just keep backing up! Lol.
megamike;730082 said:Can your BPFSL decrease from exessive stretching after a long break? Or did the break cause thid decrease?
huge-girth;760136 said:I have never measured BPFSL so I cannot tell and I don't even bother myself about it. All that matters to me is bone pressed erect measurement and big flaccid hang
doublelongdaddy;760246 said:You should take that measurement today! FSBPL shows you the gains of the future. I would definitely take this measurement before any other length measurement. Length gains show up here first and are translated as time progresses.
huge-girth;760308 said:FSBPL means Flaccid Side Bone Pressed Length?
doublelongdaddy;760388 said:Yes, people write it in different ways
BPFSL: Bone Pressed Flaccid Stretched Length
FSBPL: Flaccid Stretched Bone Pressed Length
BPSFL: Bone Pressed Stretched Flaccid Length
They all mean the same
huge-girth;760485 said:Alright, I'm going to get a ruler and take that measurement for sure.
cladre60;760523 said:It's my least favorite measurement to attempt but when I've done it the results are the same on back to back measurements. Don't need to worry about EQ so it is kind of easier in that regard.
huge-girth;760531 said:I did the measurement today from the top and saw 7 inches length (Flaccid top measurement). I don't believe it has anything to do with my erect length because I'm sure I'm a bit over 7.5 inches when erect and when inside the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]hydromax[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X40[/words], I get to the 8.5 inches mark. I'm able to 3 twist/rotation with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] when doing bundled stretches and for you to do this you surely need to be around 7.75 inches in length. I'm very confused now.
doublelongdaddy;760536 said:When measuring did you press against your pubic bone and pull stretch as far as you can up the ruler? There is never a time when this measurement is less than your erect bp measurement. Measure again being sure to measure as I have stated, you are going to see more length than 7", you simply are not pushing and stretching hard enough.
doublelongdaddy;760536 said:When measuring did you press against your pubic bone and pull stretch as far as you can up the ruler? There is never a time when this measurement is less than your erect bp measurement. Measure again being sure to measure as I have stated, you are going to see more length than 7", you simply are not pushing and stretching hard enough.
huge-girth;760633 said:It seems I need to pull harder and it feels uncomfortable for me. I will have to use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] and see how high I can go length wise inside the pump. Because right now I feel quite discouraged but there is no going back.
huge-girth;760633 said:It seems I need to pull harder and it feels uncomfortable for me. I will have to use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] and see how high I can go length wise inside the pump. Because right now I feel quite discouraged but there is no going back.
doublelongdaddy;760682 said:In a flaccid stretched measurement you must pull with strength and push the ruler firmly against your pubic bone. I am sure if you measure with a wooden ruler, rounded off with sand paper, you can see you true flaccid stretched length.
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cladre60;760884 said:I'll be happy when my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] workouts reach and then exceed the 7" mark. All in time (but hopefully sooner rather than later). I'm hoping by official measurement time I've gotten that far in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words].
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cladre60;760934 said:It's instant temporary gains which makes you want to work more.
cladre60;760934 said:It's instant temporary gains which makes you want to work more.
doublelongdaddy;761048 said:And it is gains that can be used on the wife!