ULTIM8GAINZ;753113 said:
on the subject of controlling the urge to ejaculate, I personally through control have not ejaculated in a quite a long time. I only do so through uncontrollable nocturnal emmisions once every few months

in the past when i got hooked on adult entertainment i started ejaculating faster because of the excitement and quick masterbation technique

at some point a few years ago i became very good at kegels and reverse kegels. that's where the whole control thing started for me. from there on i developed extra techniques and here they are:

1. so the kegels i mostly used as a warm-up girth and eq exercise. BUT then i discovered that i loved holding kegels and edging. and since i wanted to edge longer because of the great feeling, i gradually learned to back off stimulating glans and below-glans and also too much stroking before PONR.

2. next i learned through experimentation a way to stop PONR right at its beginning. basically I do a TUCK CRUNCH when i feel i stimulated too far and felt that initial urge of PONR. the muscles during that crunch completely subdue the sensation. this is in a seated position u basically do a stomach crunch forward and lift knees to chest. it doesn't have to be full range of motion, even half way works for me. then i ease off for a bit, could be 15secs, 30secs, whatever, and then continue.

3. similar to 1 and 2, know when to back off and relax for a bit. overstimulating the urge to cum from any variety of ways is what needs to be controlled. u have to KEEP the mindset that u will not ejaculate. so that means controlling the urge from a variety of maneuvers: how u stroke, how much u stimulate the glans, not doing too much at once like holding a kegel while almost at PONR. holding the kegel is more useful before the PONR. at PONR it will actually trigger the ejaculation.. so these are some of the little things to learn through practice. they become intuitive and almost automatic once u practice more


Awesome stuff. Thank you
 
doublelongdaddy;753037 said:
10 minutes is trice as long as the average man can have intercourse. Big deal indeed and once the [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FleshLight[/words] comes you can double that.

Little by little. Which kegel is better to focus on reverse kegel or kegel?
 
Pineapplesavage;753121 said:
Little by little. Which kegel is better to focus on reverse kegel or kegel?

Kegels. Reverse Kegels are more for doing length work as when you engage a RK it allows the penis to be stretched without interference from connective muscles. Kegels are what will bring endurance and strength to your penis. If you follow the Kegel routine in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] is gives a great directions to Kegels and Reverse Kegels.
 
Pineapplesavage;753495 said:
Doublelongdaddy

Does it matter the pressure I use when doing Jelqing?

Yes it does, you want to be at about 80% using a tight grip so as not to lose blood when switching hands. A much better method would be the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]Slow Squash Jelq[/words] as this is a closed end jelq that allows no blood to be released. Check it out and let me know what you think.
 
doublelongdaddy;753657 said:
Yes it does, you want to be at about 80% using a tight grip so as not to lose blood when switching hands. A much better method would be the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]Slow Squash Jelq[/words] as this is a closed end jelq that allows no blood to be released. Check it out and let me know what you think.

Just read it, that is exactly what I'm doing.

I edge for 15-20min. Then go straight into squash Jelq. Couple times during the set I had to stop because for ponr. I try to do this every other day.
 
Pineapplesavage;753857 said:
Just read it, that is exactly what I'm doing.

I edge for 15-20min. Then go straight into squash Jelq. Couple times during the set I had to stop because for ponr. I try to do this every other day.

Awesome, glad you are following this method, makes all the difference in the world.
 
Pineapplesavage;754589 said:
I'm going to the rest of April a break. Feel that it's needed. Start up on the 1st.

20 days of rest is a great deal of time, try keep involved with the forums while away, this will keep you on the road during a physical break.
 
Pineapplesavage;754813 said:
Had sex the other night. 2-3min. Disappointed.

I'm going to start back up tomorrow the 15th.

Get yourself a FleashLight and start practicing! There is no better way to gain control.
 
Not trying to peak your hopes, but there some info coming out in the way that PE being some what of a chemical issue aswell. For example, a high percentage of people with ADHD suffer from PE, and also they've recently found that up 75% of premature ejaculators have high histamine levels.
There some good indicators that a combination of Natrasuticals (plant compounds, not pharma) may infact enable better control over ejaculation.
i think the stack is something like-
St.johns wort- regulates seretonin
Gaba+ niacinamide- regulates dopamine
Quercertin + green tea extract- lowers histamine
And possibly tylenol- regulates prosteglandin E2
I'm going to try this if i can't get it through training haha
 
jekyllnhyde360;754865 said:
Not trying to peak your hopes, but there some info coming out in the way that PE being some what of a chemical issue aswell. For example, a high percentage of people with ADHD suffer from PE, and also they've recently found that up 75% of premature ejaculators have high histamine levels.
There some good indicators that a combination of Natrasuticals (plant compounds, not pharma) may infact enable better control over ejaculation.
i think the stack is something like-
St.johns wort- regulates seretonin
Gaba+ niacinamide- regulates dopamine
Quercertin + green tea extract- lowers histamine
And possibly tylenol- regulates prosteglandin E2
I'm going to try this if i can't get it through training haha

I should also add that Wellbutrin is the best in the span of anti-depressants. There is no sexual side effects, the biggest side effect is a desire to stop smoking and weight loss (I can I've with that) The worst medication for me was Zoloft which made getting an erection practically impossible, and when I was able to get an erection I could not cum. So there is so many things to consider when using these meds for other purposes, like PE. Study side effects and trial group samples, this will give you the best idea to side effects. Maybe one will allow for good erection while making it difficult to cum, which sounds best to most men. But there is even a better method, total control. Practice edging with the [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FleshLight[/words], bring yourself to the point of orgasm and stop it using Kegels and Reverse Kegels. There a a few ways to do this and when mastered you will have the best conditions, super erections with the ability to come on command or hold back for hours of sex.

Here are the methods I used to master my ejaculation.

Becoming in touch with your orgasm
There is a very fine line between cuming and about to cum. making this distinction is the first step in having more staying power.

Identify your brink of orgasm
You will want to identify the fine line that separates cuming from about to cum. During this period pay special attention to what brings you almost to orgasm. What are your thoughts? How long does it take to get there? Keep Track of this information for future reference. The goal here is to paint a mental picture of your orgasm and identify just what brings you to this brink and what you can do to stop it.

Breathing to Reduce Excitement
Simply taking a deep breath at the brink of orgasm is a very effective way to reduce your excitement level and reset your orgasm. It does not work for everyone but it is worth trying.

Breathing to Reset Orgasm
When you feel that you are getting too close to orgasm, just completely stop and take a deep breath. Give yourself a minute or two to reset your mental orgasm. Once you feel that you have reset this mental orgasm continue with the confidence that the physical orgasm is far off. You will find with practice this process will give you longer and longer periods of staying power. Eventually this mental reset will happen automatically with no pause.

The Squeeze Techniques
When you feel close to your orgasm completely stop, pull out, take a deep breath and apply one of these two squeezing methods. One method usually works better for men than the other so try them both.

BASE SQUEEZE: at the brink of orgasm stop, take a deep breath. Using the OK grip squeeze the base of your penis and squeeze until the urge has faded.

UP SQUEEZE: at the brink of orgasm stop, take a deep breath. Using the forefinger and thumb squeeze the top and bottom of your penis just below the glans until the urge to orgasm has faded.

DLD Push
The DLD Push is a technique to prolong orgasm and remain erect after orgasm. This method involved a hard reverse kegel right at the brink of orgasm. It takes some practice but once it is mastered 4-5 orgasms are possible.

Reverse Psychology
A great technique that seems to work very well for me is the Reverse Psychology method. Previously to having sex I convince myself that I am going to have problems ejaculation.
 
doublelongdaddy;754877 said:
I should also add that Wellbutrin is the best in the span of anti-depressants. There is no sexual side effects, the biggest side effect is a desire to stop smoking and weight loss (I can I've with that) The worst medication for me was Zoloft which made getting an erection practically impossible, and when I was able to get an erection I could not cum. So there is so many things to consider when using these meds for other purposes, like PE. Study side effects and trial group samples, this will give you the best idea to side effects. Maybe one will allow for good erection while making it difficult to cum, which sounds best to most men. But there is even a better method, total control. Practice edging with the [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FleshLight[/words], bring yourself to the point of orgasm and stop it using Kegels and Reverse Kegels. There a a few ways to do this and when mastered you will have the best conditions, super erections with the ability to come on command or hold back for hours of sex.

Here are the methods I used to master my ejaculation.

Becoming in touch with your orgasm
There is a very fine line between cuming and about to cum. making this distinction is the first step in having more staying power.

Identify your brink of orgasm
You will want to identify the fine line that separates cuming from about to cum. During this period pay special attention to what brings you almost to orgasm. What are your thoughts? How long does it take to get there? Keep Track of this information for future reference. The goal here is to paint a mental picture of your orgasm and identify just what brings you to this brink and what you can do to stop it.

Breathing to Reduce Excitement
Simply taking a deep breath at the brink of orgasm is a very effective way to reduce your excitement level and reset your orgasm. It does not work for everyone but it is worth trying.

Breathing to Reset Orgasm
When you feel that you are getting too close to orgasm, just completely stop and take a deep breath. Give yourself a minute or two to reset your mental orgasm. Once you feel that you have reset this mental orgasm continue with the confidence that the physical orgasm is far off. You will find with practice this process will give you longer and longer periods of staying power. Eventually this mental reset will happen automatically with no pause.

The Squeeze Techniques
When you feel close to your orgasm completely stop, pull out, take a deep breath and apply one of these two squeezing methods. One method usually works better for men than the other so try them both.

BASE SQUEEZE: at the brink of orgasm stop, take a deep breath. Using the OK grip squeeze the base of your penis and squeeze until the urge has faded.

UP SQUEEZE: at the brink of orgasm stop, take a deep breath. Using the forefinger and thumb squeeze the top and bottom of your penis just below the glans until the urge to orgasm has faded.

DLD Push
The DLD Push is a technique to prolong orgasm and remain erect after orgasm. This method involved a hard reverse kegel right at the brink of orgasm. It takes some practice but once it is mastered 4-5 orgasms are possible.

Reverse Psychology
A great technique that seems to work very well for me is the Reverse Psychology method. Previously to having sex I convince myself that I am going to have problems ejaculation.

Amazing! Exercises are incredibly important, i find that the reverse kegel is the greatest manipulation i can use to cut down the ejaculatory pulse of the PC muscle.
But, i've been doing a ton of research and it turns out that men who suffer from PE have high histamine levels, which i do.
 
jekyllnhyde360;754995 said:
Amazing! Exercises are incredibly important, i find that the reverse kegel is the greatest manipulation i can use to cut down the ejaculatory pulse of the PC muscle.
But, i've been doing a ton of research and it turns out that men who suffer from PE have high histamine levels, which i do.

It is so different between men on what works best so this list is very helpful using different techniques. Most find that the Reverse Kegels are the King in this game but it is the timing of the RK that matters most and it needs to connect with your mind in a supportive way, enforcing that you have staved off the orgasm.
 
doublelongdaddy;755028 said:
It is so different between men on what works best so this list is very helpful using different techniques. Most find that the Reverse Kegels are the King in this game but it is the timing of the RK that matters most and it needs to connect with your mind in a supportive way, enforcing that you have staved off the orgasm.

Hey D, yes thats true! when doyou find is the best time to go fullthrottle with the RK, and do you use them lightly throughout sex to keep ejac at bay, if so how?
 
jekyllnhyde360;755036 said:
Hey D, yes thats true! when doyou find is the best time to go fullthrottle with the RK, and do you use them lightly throughout sex to keep ejac at bay, if so how?

For me it was always a strong reverse kegel at the point of orgasm, this would stave it off. Then I would continue to kegel and repeat the RK when I was growing close again. Eventually I did not need to think on it, I simply put it to memory and now I can go as long as I like and cum on command. Have not been able to practice on a woman in years but it works!
 
Pineapplesavage;755221 said:
Just got over a cold. Back on the grind

Must be nice! I am still sick 16 weeks later! Uggggggh!
 
Edge for 30min

I edged for a good 18min.

Then I got to PONR. I regular kegeled hard, but I ejaculated, but I was still kegeling. I noticed since I didn't let it all release I was still able to have an erection. So I did the same thing for a total of 3 times.

Idk if that is cum because all the time I cum I go soft real quick.

I noticed when I kegeled, that was the strongest kegel I could offer.
 
Pineapplesavage;755257 said:
Edge for 30min

I edged for a good 18min.

Then I got to PONR. I regular kegeled hard, but I ejaculated, but I was still kegeling. I noticed since I didn't let it all release I was still able to have an erection. So I did the same thing for a total of 3 times.

Idk if that is cum because all the time I cum I go soft real quick.

I noticed when I kegeled, that was the strongest kegel I could offer.

If done in the right sequence 1 of 2 things will happen, you will stop the orgasm before it starts or if you do shoot off you will be able to remain erect. This is a 2 fold benefit of learning the Kegel/RK sequence that work best for you.
 
doublelongdaddy;755261 said:
If done in the right sequence 1 of 2 things will happen, you will stop the orgasm before it starts or if you do shoot off you will be able to remain erect. This is a 2 fold benefit of learning the Kegel/RK sequence that work best for you.

Interesting.
 
Edge for 30min

Edge for a good 12min till PONR. I kegeled but orgasmed. Since I was kegeling my hardest I was able to keep an erection.

At 20min I reached PONR again kegeled my hardest and orgasm a little.

The next 10min I reversed kegeled and it felt powerful because i got to the PONR and didn't orgasm.

I know I'm not reaching anything by orgasm but this is really surprising. To orgasm, to kegel hard while reaching orgasm and still be erect after is amazing. Lol
 
Edge for 30min

Good 8min of no where close to PONR.
After that 2 times of really hard kegels but very lil orgasm, so I was still hard. The last 5mins I was stroking away fast, no excitement for PONR and I had a good erection.

I'll focus more on not having a orgasm.
 
Pineapplesavage;755301 said:
Edge for 30min

Good 8min of no where close to PONR.
After that 2 times of really hard kegels but very lil orgasm, so I was still hard. The last 5mins I was stroking away fast, no excitement for PONR and I had a good erection.

I'll focus more on not having a orgasm.

Sounds like you found your groove! It is a great feeling to have control of your body like this. It was one of my favorite gains in PE!
 
Pineapplesavage;757045 said:
Edge for 40min today. Took 20min to PONR. Hope it means something when the time comes to produce and not min man.

You can master this and become in charge of when you cum, or the ability to cum on command. I can go for hours and decide when to cum. This came from much practice in all areas ballooning, edging, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BatMate[/words] or [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FleshLight[/words] practice, getting to the PONR and stopping it, resetting it and beginning again.
 
doublelongdaddy;757078 said:
You can master this and become in charge of when you cum, or the ability to cum on command. I can go for hours and decide when to cum. This came from much practice in all areas ballooning, edging, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BatMate[/words] or [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FleshLight[/words] practice, getting to the PONR and stopping it, resetting it and beginning again.

How can a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] improve the ability to cum on command?

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Edge 30min. With no adult entertainment
 
Pineapplesavage;757112 said:
How can a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] improve the ability to cum on command?

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Edge 30min. With no adult entertainment

It can be used like the [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FleshLight[/words] in ways to bring you to PONR. The [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FleshLight[/words] is much better because it feels moe like the real thing but with some imagination the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BathMate[/words] can be used similarly. Just a tip to help Brothers save money.
 
Took couple days off. Going hard for couple days I get irritation.

15min edge.

I need to get back on 30min sesh. I haven't really let all my orgasm out. Strong kegels. I'm reprogramming my body. Ever since I started masterbating i orgasmed couple times a week. I never went 5 days without an orgasm. So I am trying to keep my seed.

Enjoy the process, be in the moment. I will cure this.
 
Pineapplesavage;757640 said:
Took couple days off. Going hard for couple days I get irritation.

15min edge.

I need to get back on 30min sesh. I haven't really let all my orgasm out. Strong kegels. I'm reprogramming my body. Ever since I started masterbating i orgasmed couple times a week. I never went 5 days without an orgasm. So I am trying to keep my seed.

Enjoy the process, be in the moment. I will cure this.

15 minutes is 3 times as long as an average male lasts during intercourse. 30 minutes would be 6 times the time! I think you are in a good place my Brother!
 
doublelongdaddy;757645 said:
15 minutes is 3 times as long as an average male lasts during intercourse. 30 minutes would be 6 times the time! I think you are in a good place my Brother!

Got to test out my [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] today. Lasted one min. I'm going to get the [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]fleshlight[/words]. What lube do u suggest?
 
Pineapplesavage;757706 said:
Got to test out my [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] today. Lasted one min. I'm going to get the [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]fleshlight[/words]. What lube do u suggest?

I use conditioner because it is water based and easy to clean. Oils feel best but are a pain to clean up. Either way it feels just like the real deal and you can really master the bedroom and get yourself to last as long as you like. I think the [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FleshLight[/words] is around $75, but it is worth it. I have had 2 so far and I have nothing but good to say.
 
I've been edging every two days. Found out I regular kegel like couple minutes into my edging and that's what makes me pre mature ejaculate. So I'm focusing on not kegeling at until PONR and I reverse kegel.

Still can't last longer than 2min when it's go time but determined to last longer naturally.
 
Pineapplesavage;762622 said:
I've been edging every two days. Found out I regular kegel like couple minutes into my edging and that's what makes me pre mature ejaculate. So I'm focusing on not kegeling at until PONR and I reverse kegel.

Still can't last longer than 2min when it's go time but determined to last longer naturally.

Wearing a condom during sex can help reduce the sensitivity and make you last longer
 
Pineapplesavage;762622 said:
I've been edging every two days. Found out I regular kegel like couple minutes into my edging and that's what makes me pre mature ejaculate. So I'm focusing on not kegeling at until PONR and I reverse kegel.

Still can't last longer than 2min when it's go time but determined to last longer naturally.

Seriously consider the [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FleshLight[/words], it is by far the best way to last longer. If you can make it 20 minutes in the [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FleshLight[/words] you can make 20 minutes in real sex. And the [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FleshLight[/words] is much better to practice on than than your wife :) The [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FleshLight[/words] will not get mad.
 
I'm Lasting 10sec to 2minutes. Frustrated. Any help and guidance is appreciated.


20min edging and reverse kegel.
-PONR at the end. Will do a better job focusing On not nutting.
I'm sure there's lots of weird advice for it, but the best thing that worked for me was just practice and time.
 
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Position #1 - "The Surreptitious Female Rider"
This is perhaps the best position for you if you are looking to last longer. Let her mount atop you while having sex. There are 2 advantages to this position:
Greater Control: You can control your arousal completely. This is because this position allows your body to be completely relaxed and stress-free. You are lying on your back and just enjoying the sensations coursing through your body. When you are this relaxed, you can control your arousal whenever you want.
Putting Her In Charge: The best advantage to this position is that she is in charge of the stimulation. Her rhythmic movements might inflame you, but you are in total control of your arousal and you can relax or tighten your pelvic muscles with total ease. How great is that?
Position #2 - "The Reversing Female Rider"
This is another great position you can try out. This is the reverse of Position #1. This is where your partner mounts you, but in a 'facing away' position. You can try this variation after adopting the traditional female rider. It can help vary the stimulation, without losing the fun and pleasure of the act.
 

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Hello my new Brother! I can hear the frustration in your post and I want to bring some calm into your mind. Premature Ejaculation is something many of us had issues with when starting PE but have mastered it through different methods. Here are some of my own methods.




Pre-Mature Ejaculation

Pre-Mature Ejaculation is something many men suffer with. I have found many different ideas in helping with this that I have included below. I do want to say that this problem will fade from simply doing my program. When most men, myself included, got familiar with manual penis enlargement exercise the problem just seems to fade. The reason this problem does go away is the constant stimulation of the exercises. This constant stimulus trains the penis to last longer and longer. In the mean time here are some great techniques. Some are my own techniques, others I found around the web.

Becoming in touch with your orgasm
There is a very fine line between cuming and about to cum. making this distinction is the first step in having more staying power.

Identify your brink of orgasm
You will want to identify the fine line that separates cuming from about to cum. During this period pay special attention to what brings you almost to orgasm. What are your thoughts? How long does it take to get there? Keep Track of this information for future reference. The goal here is to paint a mental picture of your orgasm and identify just what brings you to this brink and what you can do to stop it.

Breathing to Reduce Excitement
Simply taking a deep breath at the brink of orgasm is a very effective way to reduce your excitement level and reset your orgasm. It does not work for everyone but it is worth trying.

Breathing to Reset Orgasm
When you feel that you are getting too close to orgasm, just completely stop and take a deep breath. Give yourself a minute or two to reset your mental orgasm. Once you feel that you have reset this mental orgasm continue with the confidence that the physical orgasm is far off. You will find with practice this process will give you longer and longer periods of staying power. Eventually this mental reset will happen automatically with no pause.

The Squeeze Techniques
When you feel close to your orgasm completely stop, pull out, take a deep breath and apply one of these two squeezing methods. One method usually works better for men than the other so try them both.

BASE SQUEEZE
at the brink of orgasm stop, take a deep breath. Using the OK grip squeeze the base of your penis and squeeze until the urge has faded.

UP SQUEEZE
at the brink of orgasm stop, take a deep breath. Using the forefinger and thumb squeeze the top and bottom of your penis just below the glans until the urge to orgasm has faded.

DLD Push
The DLD Push is a technique to prolong orgasm and remain erect after orgasm. This method involved a hard reverse kegel right at the brink of orgasm. It takes some practice but once it is mastered 4-5 orgasms are possible.

Reverse Psychology
A great technique that seems to work very well for me is the Reverse Psychology method. Previously to having sex I convince myself that I am going to have problems ejaculation.

I've been using delay spray to prolong sex but I know I'm only deceiving myself. I have to try what you have written here.
 
I've been using delay spray to prolong sex but I know I'm only deceiving myself. I have to try what you have written here.

Just think about baseball and you will last forever unless baseball is sexual to you
 
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