Hey all.so i started on and off PE about a year ago.with length 7.2bpel i was mainly looking for girth as girth is only about 4.5

anyway i got the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] first and i really like the results.i did gain girth from it HOWEVER it messed up the skin.upon viewing pre PE and after [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] pics i notice that all of the skin issues were there before however VERY VERY minor like you couldnt even see.the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] made all the blemishes and marks way worse.including: stretch marks size increase,papule size increase,and zit/pore size increase.

so i stopped the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] and switched to Jelqing.however i HATE jelqing.it feels wierd doing it with my hands and i cant even with my hands anymore as i recently developed tennis elbow due to griping things with a fist so basicaly i had to redo my entire weight training form,so basically thumbless form so no OK grip without pain in elbow.
so i got the jelq device and its much better however it still feels odd like it seems like its basically just grabbing the skin and pulling it up.is the skin supposed to move upwards? i tried holding nuts down but then it hurts and the rollers dont go anywhere.and idk if jelqing is causing my skin to look different also,i dont want to change the skin appearance i have been told i have a nice looking penis by several women and dont want that to change.

also i have been using cocoa butter once a day on penis for stretch marks.can that cause issues?

ugh im just frusterated i want that girth and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] was working wonders until it basically whooped my skins ass!

heres a pic of the papules(which are basically non existent since stopping the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]) the pores and the stretch marks.

please guys can you help me out?
 
I can't see the image but I can say that vitamin e and aloe vera lotions have helped me with a number of things. Many others have mentioned apple cider vinegar. Another option is considering penises are pretty ugly. So your choice is ugly and thick or ugly and average.

The only exercise I'd stand behind other than [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] morning and night is edging with a cock ring. Some others have said supra slammers and slow squash jelqs have given them strong results, but I am also not super fond of that type of work. Edging with a ring gives an even expansion much like the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. Paired up they're monstrous.
 
AnthonyMachine;632241 said:
Hey all.so i started on and off PE about a year ago.with length 7.2bpel i was mainly looking for girth as girth is only about 4.5

anyway i got the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] first and i really like the results.i did gain girth from it HOWEVER it messed up the skin.upon viewing pre PE and after [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] pics i notice that all of the skin issues were there before however VERY VERY minor like you couldnt even see.the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] made all the blemishes and marks way worse.including: stretch marks size increase,papule size increase,and zit/pore size increase.

so i stopped the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] and switched to Jelqing.however i HATE jelqing.it feels wierd doing it with my hands and i cant even with my hands anymore as i recently developed tennis elbow due to griping things with a fist so basicaly i had to redo my entire weight training form,so basically thumbless form so no OK grip without pain in elbow.
so i got the jelq device and its much better however it still feels odd like it seems like its basically just grabbing the skin and pulling it up.is the skin supposed to move upwards? i tried holding nuts down but then it hurts and the rollers dont go anywhere.and idk if jelqing is causing my skin to look different also,i dont want to change the skin appearance i have been told i have a nice looking penis by several women and dont want that to change.

also i have been using cocoa butter once a day on penis for stretch marks.can that cause issues?

ugh im just frusterated i want that girth and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] was working wonders until it basically whooped my skins ass!

heres a pic of the papules(which are basically non existent since stopping the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]) the pores and the stretch marks.

please guys can you help me out?


OK I see your issues and I want to first tell you they are not so bad. Many men have these issues and have dealt with them successfully through two ways. First for the PPP you will want to get yourself some smokers toothpaste (it has to be Smokers Toothpaste like Rembrandt) twice a day apply it to the area where the PPP is. It will dry the PPP out and after about 2 weeks they will flake off. Next, the discoloration can be addressed through using Apple Cider Vinegar. this link will give you directions. Cocoa Butter can irritate the skin on the penis, I suggest you switch to Hydrocortisone Cream, this will be much more effective and dealing with skin issues.
 
doublelongdaddy;632255 said:
OK I see your issues and I want to first tell you they are not so bad. Many men have these issues and have dealt with them successfully through two ways. First for the PPP you will want to get yourself some smokers toothpaste (it has to be Smokers Toothpaste like Rembrandt) twice a day apply it to the area where the PPP is. It will dry the PPP out and after about 2 weeks they will flake off. Next, the discoloration can be addressed through using Apple Cider Vinegar. this link will give you directions. Cocoa Butter can irritate the skin on the penis, I suggest you switch to Hydrocortisone Cream, this will be much more effective and dealing with skin issues.

thanks.the papules are virtually non existant. its only when i use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] is that they flare up like crazy.

also i use the cocoa butter for the stretch marks.will the hydrocortisone cream heal the stretch marks?

and what about jelqing?i use jelq device it seems i pull a lot of skin upwards when i do jelq
 
AnthonyMachine;632281 said:
thanks.the papules are virtually non existant. its only when i use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] is that they flare up like crazy.

also i use the cocoa butter for the stretch marks.will the hydrocortisone cream heal the stretch marks?

and what about jelqing?i use jelq device it seems i pull a lot of skin upwards when i do jelq


Still, I would use the Smoker Toothpaste to get rid of them completely. Hydrocortisone will deal with stretch marks better than Cocoa Butter. I think the Jelq Device does no compare to using your hands and if you desire no excessive skin using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SlowSquashJelq[/words] would be best.
 
doublelongdaddy;632351 said:
Still, I would use the Smoker Toothpaste to get rid of them completely. Hydrocortisone will deal with stretch marks better than Cocoa Butter. I think the Jelq Device does no compare to using your hands and if you desire no excessive skin using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SlowSquashJelq[/words] would be best.

i used smokers off and on for a while not really a difference maybe a go again would be worth a shot.also i have a tattoo down there but recent ingrown hair pop made a new scar so i have to be careful with that area so im worried [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] or jelq device will rub it.back to manual again i cant jelq with my main hand as i have tennis elbow.so any grip with my thumb wether its my beni or a dumbell will cause me pain.

i tried [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]slow squash jelq[/words] not sure if i do them right?i got about 90 percnt hard and tried to bend but could only beng like 1 cm as my penis is very straight and very hard to move as my eq is great.damn long hard penis haha
 
AnthonyMachine;632393 said:
i used smokers off and on for a while not really a difference maybe a go again would be worth a shot.also i have a tattoo down there but recent ingrown hair pop made a new scar so i have to be careful with that area so im worried [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] or jelq device will rub it.back to manual again i cant jelq with my main hand as i have tennis elbow.so any grip with my thumb wether its my beni or a dumbell will cause me pain.

i tried [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]slow squash jelq[/words] not sure if i do them right?i got about 90 percnt hard and tried to bend but could only beng like 1 cm as my penis is very straight and very hard to move as my eq is great.damn long hard penis haha

How long did you use the smokers tooth paste for? It does take a couple weeks to remove them. I want to get you to place where you can use your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] with no problems, it is the fastest way to gain girth when it is combined with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SlowSquashJelq[/words]. The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SlowSquashJelq[/words] does not need a bend, it should be simple compression against the hand at the base and it will be easier for you to do especially with the tennis elbow issues.
 
doublelongdaddy;632418 said:
How long did you use the smokers tooth paste for? It does take a couple weeks to remove them. I want to get you to place where you can use your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] with no problems, it is the fastest way to gain girth when it is combined with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SlowSquashJelq[/words]. The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SlowSquashJelq[/words] does not need a bend, it should be simple compression against the hand at the base and it will be easier for you to do especially with the tennis elbow issues.

sorry for late reply.so hrydrocortisone cream good for skin then? i used it for like a week twice a day then like once a day like 5 days a week for a couple weeks.dont like putting it on in the am tho gets on underwear haha maybe i cant start again nightly...i gotta look at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] vid again maybe i did it wrong.if it were up to me i would just use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words] haha i tried manual jelqs yesterday a little better just went slower but still felt odd.as far as the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] what about it causing more stretch marks and pulling more pored?i have always had a few bumps here and there whole life but after [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] use it made them more noticable.PERMANENTLY
 
I agree with Longth. Really any type of PE you do will alter the skin of your penis in some way that is less than preferable. My opinion on the whole issue is just do the PE and don't worry about how it makes the skin of your penis look as long as you are getting bigger.

Look into the apple cider vinegar thread that DLD posted and try it out.
 
AnthonyMachine, I have found in using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] that the tap water in my area is a little irritating to my skin, fair amount of chlorine in it I think. When I use purified water (25 cents a gallon from the health food store) my skin doesn't dry out and feels better. Might be worth a try.
 
Hey bros how you guys doing whit the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] seems like i cant enough suction,i didnt use any water today,definitely is a great device tough...
 
AnthonyMachine;632763 said:
sorry for late reply.so hrydrocortisone cream good for skin then? i used it for like a week twice a day then like once a day like 5 days a week for a couple weeks.dont like putting it on in the am tho gets on underwear haha maybe i cant start again nightly...i gotta look at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] vid again maybe i did it wrong.if it were up to me i would just use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words] haha i tried manual jelqs yesterday a little better just went slower but still felt odd.as far as the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] what about it causing more stretch marks and pulling more pored?i have always had a few bumps here and there whole life but after [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] use it made them more noticable.PERMANENTLY

It would be easier just to use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bath mate[/words] but the problem with this is you need to pump for the great time to get the best expansion but then the problem is much of the expansion comes from water trapped under your skin. Using the 5 X 5 X 3 method found in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] helps bring much greater tissue expansion without all the water retention.
 
Thanks for advice guys? What are those little white Bumps I have mid shaft? They look and feel like little pimples. But I've swueezed Em and barely anything comes out like a dot of pus maybe. I put acne med on it too did nothing.
 
doublelongdaddy;632852 said:
It would be easier just to use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bath mate[/words] but the problem with this is you need to pump for the great time to get the best expansion but then the problem is much of the expansion comes from water trapped under your skin. Using the 5 X 5 X 3 method found in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] helps bring much greater tissue expansion without all the water retention.

I looked into it I guess they are called Sebaceous Glands? pixs before [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] use show my penis has always has some stretch marks,seb glands and papules. Only very light and not able to see unless you zoomed in. After [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] use all those issues were magnified. Even after 4 months no [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] still magnified. So thinking will just still to manual work. Will manual work affect my skin negatively? I'm long enough at 7.2 inches to where some girls can't even take me all the way in and hold me back a bit. At 4.56 girth I'm just average would love more girth. But not at the Risk of making my penis uglier. (Mentioned before I have had women say I have a good looking penis)

Also any way to get rid of the seb glands? Maybe like a pimple with heat and acne scrubs? I read keeping I dry will help also but then I won't be able to put anything in my penis for stretch marks. :(

So conflicted!!
 
For the sebaceous glands... You could try bentonite clay. It has very powerful drawing and absorbing properties. Make a paste, apply liberally, and let it dry. It won't hurt and is not expensive. You can find it in any health food store.
For the tennis elbow: "mobilitywod" and "foundation training". Those two things have greatly reduced my life long back pain where nothing else had worked.
 
FireDragonLeo;633223 said:
For the sebaceous glands... You could try bentonite clay. It has very powerful drawing and absorbing properties. Make a paste, apply liberally, and let it dry. It won't hurt and is not expensive. You can find it in any health food store.
For the tennis elbow: "mobilitywod" and "foundation training". Those two things have greatly reduced my life long back pain where nothing else had worked.

Have you tried this yourself?
 
I have used the clay on pimples that were actively inflamed, and it helped reduce the redness. It helps reduce inflammation and draws out toxins. It works amazing on bites and stings! My thought is that skin is irritated so the clay might help calm it down.
If you do the stretches and myofacsial release on mobilitywod, the tennis elbow will get better! Foundation training will correct the underlying posture issues that can lead to joint issues.
 
FireDragonLeo;633247 said:
I have used the clay on pimples that were actively inflamed, and it helped reduce the redness. It helps reduce inflammation and draws out toxins. It works amazing on bites and stings! My thought is that skin is irritated so the clay might help calm it down.
If you do the stretches and myofacsial release on mobilitywod, the tennis elbow will get better! Foundation training will correct the underlying posture issues that can lead to joint issues.

Awesome! I hope this leads to another good therapy we can offer the Brotherhood. I have been talking about Hydrocortisone for some time now and finally a few guys have tried and are having great success.
 
doublelongdaddy;633318 said:
Awesome! I hope this leads to another good therapy we can offer the Brotherhood. I have been talking about Hydrocortisone for some time now and finally a few guys have tried and are having great success.

Looked into hydrocortisone. Looks like it could burn? Thinking of trying [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] today. But I know it's gonna mess up my dick
 
i tried [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] for first time in about 4 months today.only went 10 min not full pressure.

i did 5 min jelq device
then 10 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]
after i used some acne scrub all over penis minus the head to help with those glands.then i put cocoa butter on penis for stretch marks.tonight i will put toothpaste on papules.

on that note. as soon as i got out of shower i noticed mypenis was hanging much larger :) HOWEVER my papules were bigger than ive seen them in the last 4 months(last time u used [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]) so i believe it is in fact the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] that makes my papules noticable :(
 
AnthonyMachine;633359 said:
Looked into hydrocortisone. Looks like it could burn? Thinking of trying [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] today. But I know it's gonna mess up my dick

Burn? Not at all, very soothing and gentle.
 
tkto;633605 said:
Hydrocrort is ok kid, but that's just my experience.

I have been using it for more than 20 years and it has worked wonder for me.
 
doublelongdaddy;633659 said:
I have been using it for more than 20 years and it has worked wonder for me.

What's ur take on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] fucking up my papules? My papules after I stopped [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] for a few months went down to about 15 percent visibility. Immediately after it was 30 percent. Two days later it's about 20 percent. I'm afraid with constant use they are just gona keep flaring up.
 
Weird brah when i cut my frenulum I used Monistat cuz I thought it was a fungus.my two papules enlarged nigga! Then they went back to normal after I only kept the area dry.
 
AnthonyMachine;633681 said:
What's ur take on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] fucking up my papules? My papules after I stopped [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] for a few months went down to about 15 percent visibility. Immediately after it was 30 percent. Two days later it's about 20 percent. I'm afraid with constant use they are just gona keep flaring up.

If they flair up from using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] but go back down after I would still go with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words]. The goal is a bigger penis, which you will get and the PPP flair up is temporary.
 
doublelongdaddy;633697 said:
If they flair up from using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] but go back down after I would still go with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words]. The goal is a bigger penis, which you will get and the PPP flair up is temporary.

I guess. But the flair doesn't go all the way down unless i don't use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] for at least 5 days. So after each use they get slightly larger. I can try again tonight. Also I don't want my stretch marks getting worse. I want girth. But if I have to pick between girth and a pretty penis(as it's been called lol) I would pick the pretty penis
 
AnthonyMachine;633714 said:
I guess. But the flair doesn't go all the way down unless i don't use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] for at least 5 days. So after each use they get slightly larger. I can try again tonight. Also I don't want my stretch marks getting worse. I want girth. But if I have to pick between girth and a pretty penis(as it's been called lol) I would pick the pretty penis

I really wish you didn't have this issue, and I wish the therapy we offer worked for you as it has for many people. I wish you did not have to decide between enlargement or PPP. I hate when I cannot solve someone's problems I will pray for you and you find some way to get through this.
 
Men are handsome bro not pretty. Yo momma got told find a man tall dark and handsome cuz dark (discoloration from pe) is a more protective shade
 
doublelongdaddy;633891 said:
I really wish you didn't have this issue, and I wish the therapy we offer worked for you as it has for many people. I wish you did not have to decide between enlargement or PPP. I hate when I cannot solve someone's problems I will pray for you and you find some way to get through this.

U are helping a lot. And I will continue to try ur advice. I appreciate u and this forum. It just sucks cuz the papules get inflamed and by next session not FULLY down so little by little gets more. However as u suggested in an old thready I started doing sets. So 5 on jelq then another 5 for starters. A little less papule swell. We will see how it goes. IMMA try it a bit longer. Worst case scenario just back to jelq device


And lol at comment above.
 
AnthonyMachine;634216 said:
U are helping a lot. And I will continue to try ur advice. I appreciate u and this forum. It just sucks cuz the papules get inflamed and by next session not FULLY down so little by little gets more. However as u suggested in an old thready I started doing sets. So 5 on jelq then another 5 for starters. A little less papule swell. We will see how it goes. IMMA try it a bit longer. Worst case scenario just back to jelq device


And lol at comment above.

So you're still using the therapy with a toothpaste? Cause I'm thinking maybe you just need more time using that toothpaste method than most men. Maybe you are just unique in that way and some extra time cure the problem. I would just like to see you get better.
 
thanks.the papules are virtually non existant. its only when i use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] is that they flare up like crazy.

also i use the cocoa butter for the stretch marks.will the hydrocortisone cream heal the stretch marks?

and what about jelqing?i use jelq device it seems i pull a lot of skin upwards when i do jelq

You see that trash called jelq device? I bought one back in 2008 When I first discovered PE. It is as good as useless. Get yourself a mityvac penis pump and combine that with SSJ to get all your desired girth gains.
 
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