are those guy ment to be surgens. another reasons why everyone should know about [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] and natural penis enlargement
 
Don't fuck with that man. First off, it say it's not FDA approved. Second, they make no mention of journal studies into the procedure. Considering it's a relatively new treatment, it's still in it's experimental infancy. I don't know any guy in their right mind that would do that. Finally, I had a scaffolding-type experimental procedure done that was designed to coax the skin to grow over a tiny hole that I have in my ear drum. My doctor was one of three pioneers in this experiment. The point is, the skin actually grew over the patch. I turned out to be one of the few that the procedure didn't work for. Keep those in mind when you undergo surgery, especially with your dick.
 
I like how all these surgical procedures incorporate weights and stretching after the fact. Yet when MD's are asked about natural Penis Enlargement they blow it off as a joke.
 
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Don't fuck with that man. First off, it say it's not FDA approved. Second, they make no mention of journal studies into the procedure. Considering it's a relatively new treatment, it's still in it's experimental infancy. I don't know any guy in their right mind that would do that. Finally, I had a scaffolding-type experimental procedure done that was designed to coax the skin to grow over a tiny hole that I have in my ear drum. My doctor was one of three pioneers in this experiment. The point is, the skin actually grew over the patch. I turned out to be one of the few that the procedure didn't work for. Keep those in mind when you undergo surgery, especially with your dick.

The FDA are a bunch of fucking ass wholes, there corrupt and dont give a shit to put something on the market that is dangerous. They are gready have sent thousands of people to there grave. And they will take stuff off the market if its actually helping people. They have done that numerous times.
 
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I like how all these surgical procedures incorporate weights and stretching after the fact. Yet when MD's are asked about natural Penis Enlargement they blow it off as a joke.

good point man. I would never go through with surgery... it's better to have something in your hand and think "I MADE THAT".
 
Please, don't even think of doing that shit, anyone to do that does not desirve to be called a man, a couple years on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and that can totally be avioded, are you thinking of doing this?
 
I'm gonna have nightmares about that shit, med creepy.
 
holy shit!!! you have got to be one unhappy ass motherfucker when it comes to your penis to accually let someone do that to you, without sending them to the electric chair. That doctor and those....scratch that....whoever the dumbass is who's body that penis is attched to in the picture should be dragged into the street and shot. For being the craziest son of a bitchin bastard alive.
 
Not something I would have done and I would like to see more medical information on this procedure to see if it is excepted widely by the medical community.

I will add that its clever thinking how its done. Would like to also see after pix.
 
Wow I was not prepared for that. Its interesting though. I have had surgery done lengthening, and girth enhancement back in Sept. the doctor exagerated the gains you could make. Also the growth can take up to a year or more to really see gains. I was lucky. I gained half an inch in girth. Now 5.25. My length bone pressed is close to 7.5. A gain of .25 of an inch. Knowing what I know now. I still would have gotten the surgery. I just would have chosen a different doctor. I can expect up to 2 inches in girth gains, and up to 2 inches in length. I am using the trackman for post op routine. I guess I can understand why people are so down on pe surgery, but if you find the right doctor the risk can be worth it. Many adult entertainment stars have had these surgeries. I am not saying you should, or shouldn't. My penis after the surgery looked like Franken Dick. Now it looks normal. You can't even notice the scar unless you are really looking for it. The scafolding looks very scary, but maybe medcially sound, and safe. I don't know. everything has risks. For those who have done it naturally that is great. For me I found it too time consuming to do. I found that I was spending too much time on pe, and not enough time on other things. Now I spend 3 hours a week on it using the trac man, and i actually can catch an hour of sleep while doing it, or raise it on a platform so i can sit, and do other things. if you do a search on the net for the tracman you can find it. Cost me 400.00 bucks about. I forget the exact price.
 
Gee, thanks a lot negative for posting those pictures. I didn't even plan on checking out the website and was just going to read from other people's post about how gross it was.:O Now that I have seen them, why in the hell would anyone want to do that to themselves!!!! Oh, and what's up with the caption explaining how "you will have achieved length and some width naturally and permanently", there is no way in hell that that can be described as natural. Please if you guys know anyone that is thinking about that kind a surgery, in good conscience you should refer them to this site.
 
I guess this surgery would ensure a constant full flaccid size but damn, can you imagine waking up and seeing that shit? It sends shivers down my spine.
 
"Eventually your body’s cells will grow through the porous substances
and you will have achieved length and some width naturally..."

HAHA

Its actually not as bad I as expected based on your reactions, any surgery will look horrific halfway through. Breast implants are conceptually not too far off.
 
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ok well I'm gonna go against the typical reaction and say the following:

(first of all, for those who missed me, :s sorry for not having been on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] for the past month, been really busy and also have been experimenting with some routines which I will be reporting on either April 14th, or May 2nd. So far the only thing to report is my girth which has gone from an EG of 15 cm to 16 cm and a clamped girth that has gone from 15.5 cm to 17.2 cm. These gains have been over the past month and I have nothing to say about their permenancy. I have developed a ruler fobia and refuse to measure my length until either of the above mentioned dates. <:( )


I think this is extremely interesting. Irrelevent to NPenis Enlargement is a risky surgery like this. If someone has the balls to try it and the wallet to spend the cash, good for them. RELEVANT to NPenis Enlargement, however, is understanding the principle which this surgery utilizes and using it for our advantage.

First thing that comes to mind is, assuming the scaffolds are put in place with no complications, why would the tissue 'grow out and multiply'? what stress would cause this growth. Since there's no internal pressure like that of clamping/jelqing, then what is it that causes this growth?

I would, (based on the above mentioned question and the NPenis Enlargement mentality that introducing internal pressure via constricting/jelqing blood into the C.C and C.S cause them to expand and hold more blood, etc.) dismiss their reasoning as total BULLSHIT.

HOWEVER, and this is where it gets interesting: I TRUELY believe that after a newbie boost, the CC and CS have absolutely no contribution to size. The fraudulent and often uneducated penis pill companies and Penis Enlargement websites that know nothing about Penis Enlargement other than what they're read on some general [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] forums, use the CC/CS arguement to sound 'scientific' and lure some impatient hopeful guys in search of the holy grail: a penis 1-2 inches bigger than the one they already have.

I truely believe that post noobie gains are the product of one thing and one thing only: TUNICA Growth. Still the same, our mentality is that the tunica will grow if we force it to grow from within. But what if tunica growth also happens externally? that is, what if tunica grows to maintain its contact with the skin??? I've read many pumpers say 'I don't know how but I swear after a while that fluid build up girth turns into actual penis tissue' . COUNTLESS of them reporting this, our own REDZULU one of them. well fluid never turns into tissue, just as big muscles will never turn into fat (my dad's argument why I shouldn't do lift weights: when you stop lifting that muscle will turn into fat:P ) What might explain the phenomenon is the very topic of my thread.

Seeing this procedure would confirm this theory. our own DLD has told us that the ony effective girth work outs are the ones with the 'temporary girth boost'. well that boost seperates the skin from the tunica, and maybe, just maybe, that is the golden point we're all missing. That this seperation of skin and tunica forces the tunica to grow. If this surgery actually yields results, then there is a good chance this is true.
 
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Open a penis enlargement investigation institution and let us know lol

Seriously, great insight though. I don't know if the fluid itself is what causes the growth, but to offer an alternative theory, maybe only workouts that cause fluid build-up have the amount of intensity to cause girth gains....
 
VK, That is indeed interesting. What thread are you talking about???

I have noticed post pumping that my girth is more "firm" even with a bit of fluid buildup. I have also noticed that even after a short respite from pumping, usually 2-3 days, that I have gained a bit of girth or length. It really is interesting to feel after a few days off how heavy the cock is and how little fluid buildup there is after the first 2-3 sets on that first day back. It feels very solid and rigid after I go through my warmdown with erect massage. Any more thoughts on this?
 
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