Good point.
Typical.LIGHTNING said:Duppi_KronKite & Mike Oxford, Seems like your a couple of trouble makers.
Your about to be Banned. I'm in a shitty mood today and feel like banning.
Mike Oxlong said:Typical.
LIGHTNING said:Duppi_KronKite & Mike Oxford, Seems like your a couple of trouble makers.
Your about to be Banned. I'm in a shitty mood today and feel like banning.
Duppi_KronKite said:Ban me for speaking my mind?
Ban me for knowing bullshit and then exposing it?
Go ahead, Ban me. It sure as hell won't stop my Hoe Banging and Dollar Stacking and therefore will not ruin my day (steal my sunshine).
Obviously The guy who started this thread must have known it was a bad idea. Not like you can't do a simple search and find other threads which were much harsher than this one.
Single me out for not agreeing with the poor business tactics. And yes they are poor.
If you threaten to Ban someone for offering to make ROP's for $10 saying they are spamming or didn't ask permission, and then you urself try to sell them months later for $50... you are a crook.
If you threaten to Ban or actually ban someone who offers advice to get low priced Viagra, then you urself make identical threads offering Viagra for $3+, sticky them and put them in multiple sections of the forum... you are a crook.
When someone exposes out your actions and you ignore their points and your buddy has to jump in and issue threats, then you need to hold your own or think about your actions and consequences before doing.
After issuing your Bans since your in a bad mood, be sure to put "Op Nazi" under your username. Also keep this thread up and open for all to read and witness your actions. Don't be a coward and move it somewhere out of view from the general public.
It is also funny how the MODS I figured might have posted on this subject aren't. They are probably more shocked than I was finding out this product is being re-shelved.
LIGHTNING said:You Said what you had to say 3 pages ago and you want to keep dragging this on. It looks like your starting trouble to me. I mean, who else gives a shit if [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] is selling ROPs for $50? If you don't agree with it, state your mind and move on or click the next thread. The few other people that didn't like the idea, stated their mind and moved on. They didn't drag the thread into 4 pages to stir up shit.
Is a Lexus Really worth $80k even Though it's a Toyota?
It has been Stated here many times before, the ROP worked for some people and didn't work for others. Maybe it won't work for you at all or maybe it will. Maybe You can make it for $1 maybe you can't.
It is funny how Duppie and myself get threatened with banisHydromaxent without even breaking a rule and this guy clearly broke the no flaming other members rule and nothing is going to even be said to him.jkisineffect said:DUPPIE>>>>> dont be a little bra wearing little cunt!
DLD in the forum rules and guidelines thread said:FLAMING
There will be no flaming or mean spirited arguing at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. The members of this forum will respect one another as in any club atmosphere. Please respect one another’s positions and keep an open mind. If you have issues with another member please present them in a mature, respectful way.
jkisineffect said:DUPPIE>>>>> dont be a little bra wearing little cunt!
DLD - has a free facken forum that your posting on - he's not
forcing anyone to buy anything TIME IS FUCKEN MONEY
If your such a hustler "like you claim to be" you would know this
I mean shit, you can learn everthing from this free forum , withought
buying half the shit thats advertised on here
IM not a hired gun , and im not swinging from dld's nuts , but
its funny when you make it to the top , people try to bring you down
jkisineffect said:LISTEN [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words]
do you know how many rop's dld has to sell to break bread??
fuck mang , your acting like he hit the fucken lotto
put your self in dld's shoes , GETTING bombarded with pm's every
minute with rop requests? even if this device doesn't work
its 50 dollars for christs sake - IS YOUR ASS THAT FACKEN BROKE?
pm me and ill give you $50 so you can buy one
Mike Oxlong said:Those who are calling Duppi and myself trolls are missing the point. The problem is not with DLD making a profit from selling products, the problem is that he is a)selling a product which is widely considered to be a scam b)pulling the sympathy card and making it sound like he didn't even want to be put into this situation and c)selling a product for 50 times the cost (and no his time isn't worth more than than, you could easily make a few dozen rings in an hour once you had your shot set up so unless DLD is making millions of dollars anually, it IS worth is time to sell them at 50 bucks a pop).
And to those who say I should be banned, why the hell is that? Because I posted an opinion which doesn't coincide with the Admins? I know one thing, I certainly didn't break a rule or troll the forum. Lightning can ban me if he so desires, but I do think it will cast quite a shadow on the credibility of this place if people are banned simply for speaking their minds in a polite manner. My opposition has certainly been 10X mroe disrespectful than I have. I haven't been carrying on about this or anything else, nor has Duppi. We were done a long time ago and have gotton dragged back into this a number of times.
I do see your point about needing to pay the bills and I thank you for discussing this in a calm manner. I hope you also understood where I was coming from with my concerns, I do believe I had a point as well which was equally valid. Aren't there better products for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] to sell though? The paysite, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words], [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words], and generic viagra/cialis are all good products and I am behind DLD 100% with them, in fact I've purchased a good deal of stuff from DLD. I don't think these quality products should be lumped with the ROP and Penis Pills. I've always bought what DLD sold because he seemed to only want to attach his name to truly great products. I never would have bought a stick with a hole in it had it not been for DLD's influence (and I ended up getting great workouts from the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words]). However, now that the quality controls are down and DLD is selling products which he openly admits may not do a damn thing, I would be inclined not to buy something new fom him, even if it ended up being the next big thing for Penis Enlargement. THAT is the point I was trying to make, I did not mean to come across as a hater or a troll. I hope I have cleared this up and there is no animosity towards me.LIGHTNING said:Allot of shit gets through without people getting banned here. If we were to Ban everyone that attacked DLD or started some shit, there would be a hell of alot less people here. DLD generally does not give a crap on what people have to say about who he is or what he does. I shouldn't have to give a crap either. If this was another Penis Enlargement forum you guys would of been gone along time ago, but we do believe In Freedom of Speech regardless of who you are.
If You had to be warned by me or DLD, you were really pushing the limits.
Duppi, I know this aint gonna stop you Stacking Flow and Pimping Ho's, but You have 200 Posts here, and that shows me that you enjoy spending a good portion of your free time here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words].
You Guys should be happy you have a FREE place like this, that welcomes you with open Loving arms to help you learn all you can possibly learn about Penis Enlargement for 100% FREE. Now we still have to pay bills and to be honest, FREE just isn't cutting it. People just don't donate anymore like they use to, except for an occasional few that we are greatful for.
So Please, if you see us selling something here, you should support it or ignore it because its paying to keep Your Free Forum Alive.
What is his official stance on the ROP/DL, in terms of it's effectiveness. This is the 3rd time I have asked in this thread and he didn't answer it either time. I am curious if he fully supports the ROP, i.e. tried it and got benefits or just wants to offer it in case it might work for some. I do know that DLD openly stated that he has no reason to think pills work (though he doesn't dismiss the possibility) yet he sells them, why does this not apply to pumps since you say his reason for not selling pumps is that they are not proven?LIGHTNING said:Oxford, I don't think DLD would sell something that was a Scam. The ROP worked for people and it didn't work for others. Allot of people said Penis Enlargement is a Scam, is it?
I know Supra Sold a Hell of allot of those ROPs and people were seeing great results and buying more. Were all those people lying? I know a few people said it didn't work and then all the sudden it didn't work for a bunch more.
I personally don't know if the ROP works or not, because I don't own one. If DLD is making them, he is doing it because he believes in it and Its helping pay the bills here. We don't sell pumps, because he don't believe in pumps. We could sell a bunch of things with all the offers we get, but we don't because it is not proven here.
Mike Oxlong said:I do see your point about needing to pay the bills and I thank you for discussing this in a calm manner. I hope you also understood where I was coming from with my concerns, I do believe I had a point as well which was equally valid. Aren't there better products for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] to sell though? The paysite, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words], [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words], and generic viagra/cialis are all good products and I am behind DLD 100% with them, in fact I've purchased a good deal of stuff from DLD. I don't think these quality products should be lumped with the ROP and Penis Pills. I've always bought what DLD sold because he seemed to only want to attach his name to truly great products. I never would have bought a stick with a hole in it had it not been for DLD's influence (and I ended up getting great workouts from the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words]). However, now that the quality controls are down and DLD is selling products which he openly admits may not do a damn thing, I would be inclined not to buy something new fom him, even if it ended up being the next big thing for Penis Enlargement. THAT is the point I was trying to make, I did not mean to come across as a hater or a troll. I hope I have cleared this up and there is no animosity towards me.
Mike Oxlong said:It is funny how Duppie and myself get threatened with banisHydromaxent without even breaking a rule and this guy clearly broke the no flaming other members rule and nothing is going to even be said to him.
penguinsfan said:Regarding jkisineffect, you're right. Regarding Duppi, you're wrong.
To the rest of you, make sure you dont bump your head on your bosses desk wen you are done praying for your raise.
Your post went right over my head man, all I did was ask the guy selling the product if it worked for him, theres nothing wrong with that at all.The BTC Killer said:Duppi and oxford,
Let's end this. You ask if it works, but why should thier opinions matter. Do you believe products or routines always work because of opinions, or personal success of others? I have been peing for about 4 years and have seen a lot come and go, what's hot now is in the past a month from now. Let me say this: NO MATTER WHAT ROUTINE, OR PRODUCT has been praised, or downed I felt it was up to ME to see if it works for ME. If you want to see if it works for YOU, then it is YOU who has to try it. Why don't you buy a ROP, or make one and let us all know how that worked out for you, but unless it's my personal time spent on the rop, or ANY product for that matter, I wouldn't really give a fuck.
doublelongdaddy said:the hundreds of thousands of people who are [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] pay site members.
Mosterson said:To think that Dld could even start selling the two most controversial things in Penis Enlargement (The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] Power Advantage Supplement Pills and the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] Dynamic Loops A.K.A. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Penis Enlargement Pills[/words] and the ROP) is not only shocking but a huuuge disappointment, I think thats the point some people are missing here.
Dld is the founder of a popular forum with 50,000 members, and hundeds of thousands of paysite members apparently. A founder with the best interests of his members at heart would never sell things which the results for are unproven and unfounded, because this is misleading and immoral.
These products are clearly marketed towards NEW MEMBERS which dont know any better. I say this because a INFORMED seasoned Penis Enlargement'er would never in their right mind purchase either, let alone for an outrageous markup. (and Lightning and DLD know this)
His credibility with the majority of the established members has just taken a tremendous hit. Dld and Lightning know this, and the lack of concern only leads me to believe that the older more distinguished members opinions dont matter anymore, wich then leads me to believe the the intentions of this board and its founders has changed.
If you want to make money dont quit your dayjob.
Duppi_KronKite said:Wont be long until the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] super pump hits shelves, or wait I've exposed it so now maybe not.
Sign-up on the forum. Buy the length master and the Silistretcher both from the MOS shoppedguin said:Hello Im looking into getting an ADS and some stretcher what would you guys recommend