OK so I got my [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] yesterday at the post office box and hurried home to try this thing out. Like a kid at Christmas I tore open the package and looked at all the neat little gadgets. I anxiously put it on.
Now I'm cut but have enough skin to roll it over the tip, problem is I had a hard time keeping the skin on the head to put the skin cone on. Finally I got the skin cone on with about 1/2 of the skin up on the cone. ???? Hopefully it'll get more if it needs to. The feeling was a little different but not unbearable or hurting or anything just different. I left it on and went out to mow and weedeat the yard (wanted to see if sweating caused any slippage. ... it did not). It stayed on just fine. Thought it was funny the different ways I would move caused different tug levels. I kept it on for about 3 hrs.
Now day 2. I did my stretch routine and then put it on before I left for work. Today I'm traveling so I kinda of made it tighter(the strap) before I left cause sitting loosens it if you make it snug for standing. Well after about an hour and a half my skin on the shafts and around the base started burning a little to the point I needed to stop to take a break from and get rid of the burning. I put it back on and lasted about another hour before I got the same thing. I had to take it off again. Now I'm not got it tight enough to stretch as you would stretching but it is taught. It's in a good stretch. I'm wondering if i had it to tight or the skin stretching was giving me the burn. I really didn't notice any discomfort it the skin inside the skin cone and didn't see anything on the head. I hope I'm putting it on right and that it's fitting correctly. I really don't feel much tug on the head or anything. Don't really know if I'm supposed to or not. I've seen the videos and pictures and everything looks right except for the skin up on the cone under the skin cone. I can barely get it to stay at half or just below half when I'm putting the skin cone on. I guess i need just a little more practice. Anyway so far so good (mostly). I would like to see a better leg strap method though. The one that comes with it is really long cause it's also used for over the shoulder. Oh well I'll keep updating about my new toy.
 
IVEADREAM;596221 said:
OK so I got my [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] yesterday at the post office box and hurried home to try this thing out. Like a kid at Christmas I tore open the package and looked at all the neat little gadgets. I anxiously put it on.
Now I'm cut but have enough skin to roll it over the tip, problem is I had a hard time keeping the skin on the head to put the skin cone on. Finally I got the skin cone on with about 1/2 of the skin up on the cone. ???? Hopefully it'll get more if it needs to. The feeling was a little different but not unbearable or hurting or anything just different. I left it on and went out to mow and weedeat the yard (wanted to see if sweating caused any slippage. ... it did not). It stayed on just fine. Thought it was funny the different ways I would move caused different tug levels. I kept it on for about 3 hrs.
Now day 2. I did my stretch routine and then put it on before I left for work. Today I'm traveling so I kinda of made it tighter(the strap) before I left cause sitting loosens it if you make it snug for standing. Well after about an hour and a half my skin on the shafts and around the base started burning a little to the point I needed to stop to take a break from and get rid of the burning. I put it back on and lasted about another hour before I got the same thing. I had to take it off again. Now I'm not got it tight enough to stretch as you would stretching but it is taught. It's in a good stretch. I'm wondering if i had it to tight or the skin stretching was giving me the burn. I really didn't notice any discomfort it the skin inside the skin cone and didn't see anything on the head. I hope I'm putting it on right and that it's fitting correctly. I really don't feel much tug on the head or anything. Don't really know if I'm supposed to or not. I've seen the videos and pictures and everything looks right except for the skin up on the cone under the skin cone. I can barely get it to stay at half or just below half when I'm putting the skin cone on. I guess i need just a little more practice. Anyway so far so good (mostly). I would like to see a better leg strap method though. The one that comes with it is really long cause it's also used for over the shoulder. Oh well I'll keep updating about my new toy.

Practice is important on this type of device, just like the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]. Most men experience the learning curve you are going through so do not feel alone on this. Keep working with it until you find the perfect method for you. Most men master this within a weeks time. Are you also using it on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words], or by itself?
 
doublelongdaddy;596246 said:
Practice is important on this type of device, just like the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]. Most men experience the learning curve you are going through so do not feel alone on this. Keep working with it until you find the perfect method for you. Most men master this within a weeks time. Are you also using it on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words], or by itself?

I haven't tried the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] yet but I was going to tonight. I'm kinda of embarrassed though, I can't figure how the clip hooks on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. Is there a picture or video or description on it?
 
IVEADREAM;596292 said:
I haven't tried the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] yet but I was going to tonight. I'm kinda of embarrassed though, I can't figure how the clip hooks on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. Is there a picture or video or description on it?
OK never mind I got it.
 
doublelongdaddy;596431 said:
How does it feel? Are you getting a good stretch?

I felt like I did get a good stretch out of it. I'll definitely have to get some more bars sometime, which is a good thing. Now I just have to figure out when to use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. I've switched my routine up by doing my stretch routine in the morning and girth at night. Yesterday I did my stretch routine in the morning and then was able to log 8 hrs in the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] using the leg strap with only a couple of 5 minute breaks. I use good tension using the leg strap as I can feel my ligs are being pulled and the rest of my dick feels tight. I'm hoping this will give me gains as if I was wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] because there's no way I can wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] during the day at work. What do you think? Can the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] produce the same tension and target theMOSright areas of the penis to give the same results as the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]? If not, should I forget the girth for now so that I can wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] in the evening and if that's the case do I need to do a second length session before I put on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] at night or is the one in the morning enough since I'm in a constant stretch state all day with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]? I'm really sorry for all the questions I'm still learning but hopefully my questions answered will help others as well. Thanks.
 
Hey IVEADREAM..use a little spit on the tip of your penis before applying the VIC to your glans. It increase the vaccum pressure between the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] cone and the top of your penis.You are definitely on the right path with your routine. The [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] and the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] will give you gains, using both is a good idea because the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] will increase the amount of skin you have to grow into while the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] can focus on the whole penis. One or the other is good bit a routine that uses both will give your faster gains. Just be careful because it will be real easy to over-fatigue your penis since you will be attacking it using different methods. What is your typical workday schedule? That way I can help you with your routine.
 
KingD;596586 said:
Hey IVEADREAM..use a little spit on the tip of your penis before applying the VIC to your glans. It increase the vaccum pressure between the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] cone and the top of your penis.You are definitely on the right path with your routine. The [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] and the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] will give you gains, using both is a good idea because the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] will increase the amount of skin you have to grow into while the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] can focus on the whole penis. One or the other is good bit a routine that uses both will give your faster gains. Just be careful because it will be real easy to over-fatigue your penis since you will be attacking it using different methods. What is your typical workday schedule? That way I can help you with your routine.
First off thanks for the reply.
I am a tool repair specialist so I do a lot of traveling during the day, sometimes 2 to 3 hrs at a time between stops. I climb in and out of my work van several times while on sight plus a lot of walking on factory floors. 2 or 3 times a week I leave the house at 6 am. and return about 5 or 6 pm. My clothing consist of jeans and a t-shirt that's one of the reasons I can't wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] all day it's just to cumbersome and noticeable, that's why I really like the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] so far, I've worn it 3 days now and haven't had any problems except a couple of slip offs which is no big deal. Today it slipped off while I was standing there talking with a floor supervisor which was funny but no one noticed anything. About 1 or 2 days a week I'll be at my shop to repair tools that have been shipped in so those days i do a lot of standing. I actually have two safety pins to clip on with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] to get the tension I want, one positioned for when I'm standing most of the day the other for when I'm sitting most of the day.Just so you know I am mostly wanting length right now I'm about 6.75" EL wanting 8" EL with 7.5" as a short term goal.
 
IVEADREAM;596560 said:
I felt like I did get a good stretch out of it. I'll definitely have to get some more bars sometime, which is a good thing. Now I just have to figure out when to use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. I've switched my routine up by doing my stretch routine in the morning and girth at night. Yesterday I did my stretch routine in the morning and then was able to log 8 hrs in the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] using the leg strap with only a couple of 5 minute breaks. I use good tension using the leg strap as I can feel my ligs are being pulled and the rest of my dick feels tight. I'm hoping this will give me gains as if I was wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] because there's no way I can wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] during the day at work. What do you think? Can the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] produce the same tension and target theMOSright areas of the penis to give the same results as the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]? If not, should I forget the girth for now so that I can wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] in the evening and if that's the case do I need to do a second length session before I put on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] at night or is the one in the morning enough since I'm in a constant stretch state all day with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]? I'm really sorry for all the questions I'm still learning but hopefully my questions answered will help others as well. Thanks.

It sounds like your mind is focused on length right now and I think it is right in line with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] to wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] as the main source of tissue breakdown and gains and use the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] for healing. I would also suggest some basic stretching in between sets of using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] to increase good circulation and add to gains. How long can you wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] in the morning? Obviously you can wear the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] for a lot of time so that is fine, we just want to see how much intense stretching you can get in the morning to make sure you are gaining as fast as possible. You can always target girth later on after you have made some goals in length.
 
doublelongdaddy;596619 said:
It sounds like your mind is focused on length right now and I think it is right in line with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] to wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] as the main source of tissue breakdown and gains and use the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] for healing. I would also suggest some basic stretching in between sets of using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] to increase good circulation and add to gains. How long can you wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] in the morning? Obviously you can wear the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] for a lot of time so that is fine, we just want to see how much intense stretching you can get in the morning to make sure you are gaining as fast as possible. You can always target girth later on after you have made some goals in length.

A normal week 3 out of 5 days I'm out of the house by 5:45 so it doesn't leave much time on those days especially if I do my stretch routine but in the evening I can get in about 3 to 4 hrs in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. So would it be better to do a light stretch routine in the morning to loosen everything up and wear the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] with as much tension as I can take during the day and do a more intense stretch routine in the evening and then wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] afterwards for as long as I can before bed or should my morning stretch be more intense and just a light one in the evening before putting on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]?
 
doublelongdaddy;596619 said:
It sounds like your mind is focused on length right now and I think it is right in line with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] to wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] as the main source of tissue breakdown and gains and use the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] for healing. I would also suggest some basic stretching in between sets of using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] to increase good circulation and add to gains. How long can you wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] in the morning? Obviously you can wear the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] for a lot of time so that is fine, we just want to see how much intense stretching you can get in the morning to make sure you are gaining as fast as possible. You can always target girth later on after you have made some goals in length.

A normal week 3 out of 5 days I'm out of the house by 5:45 so it doesn't leave much time on those days especially if I do my stretch routine but in the evening I can get in about 3 to 4 hrs in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. So would it be better to do a light stretch routine in the morning to loosen everything up and wear the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] with as much tension as I can take during the day and do a more intense stretch routine in the evening and then wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] afterwards for as long as I can before bed or should my morning stretch be more intense and just a light one in the evening before putting on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]?
 
IVEADREAM;596666 said:
A normal week 3 out of 5 days I'm out of the house by 5:45 so it doesn't leave much time on those days especially if I do my stretch routine but in the evening I can get in about 3 to 4 hrs in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. So would it be better to do a light stretch routine in the morning to loosen everything up and wear the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] with as much tension as I can take during the day and do a more intense stretch routine in the evening and then wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] afterwards for as long as I can before bed or should my morning stretch be more intense and just a light one in the evening before putting on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]?

That sounds perfect, a good mix of active and passive stretching throughout the day will bring gains and cement them very quickly. I think the biggest hope I have for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] is that is can become a 24 hour a day workout that utilizes every part of positive pe as possible to make gains as fast as possible. With all the wonderful training methods, new exercises and the assistance of equipment this dream is becoming more and more of a reality. Once I have reviewed the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] enough for night use we may be getting closer and closer. Average sleep of 8 hours put towards PE is brilliant, I just need to know if this is a possibility.
 
doublelongdaddy;596619 said:
It sounds like your mind is focused on length right now and I think it is right in line with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] to wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] as the main source of tissue breakdown and gains and use the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] for healing. I would also suggest some basic stretching in between sets of using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] to increase good circulation and add to gains. How long can you wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] in the morning? Obviously you can wear the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] for a lot of time so that is fine, we just want to see how much intense stretching you can get in the morning to make sure you are gaining as fast as possible. You can always target girth later on after you have made some goals in length.

I have one more question (ok, maybe 2). First if the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] (used with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] mod) can be the main source for tissue break down and gains, can the same amount of force (tension) be gained just using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] under the right amount of tension applied using the leg strap. If so how is it determined how much tension is used with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]? Is the 1500g represented by the last mark on the bar on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] equivalent to actual grams meaning you're applying over 3lbs of pressure (tension) to your dick and if so can't the same tension be applied using just the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] if the leg strap is tight enough? Sorry I think that was more than 2 questions. I just figure if I can apply the same tension using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] as I would using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] mod then I could technically be getting more hours under the recommended tension as if I was wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for 8+ hrs a day which is ideal, correct?
 
IVEADREAM;596996 said:
I have one more question (ok, maybe 2). First if the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] (used with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] mod) can be the main source for tissue break down and gains, can the same amount of force (tension) be gained just using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] under the right amount of tension applied using the leg strap. If so how is it determined how much tension is used with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]? Is the 1500g represented by the last mark on the bar on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] equivalent to actual grams meaning you're applying over 3lbs of pressure (tension) to your dick and if so can't the same tension be applied using just the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] if the leg strap is tight enough? Sorry I think that was more than 2 questions. I just figure if I can apply the same tension using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] as I would using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] mod then I could technically be getting more hours under the recommended tension as if I was wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for 8+ hrs a day which is ideal, correct?

I see the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] as being a more passive length tool than active as the tension is not as strong as that of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words], which when used at full intensity is much more powerful. I think there is a definite place for both in a length routine though. The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] used for active tissue break down and the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] as passive healing measures. Plus, the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] can be used as the main attachment for the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] so it gives you that added bonus.
 
Hey IVEADREAM..use a little spit on the tip of your penis before applying the VIC to your glans. It increase the vaccum pressure between the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] cone and the top of your penis.You are definitely on the right path with your routine. The [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] and the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] will give you gains, using both is a good idea because the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] will increase the amount of skin you have to grow into while the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] can focus on the whole penis. One or the other is good bit a routine that uses both will give your faster gains. Just be careful because it will be real easy to over-fatigue your penis since you will be attacking it using different methods. What is your typical workday schedule? That way I can help you with your routine.

Longest time brother. I can see you were here few weeks ago. It would be a great pleasure to hear words from you about PE and your experiences with your new size. I remember you gained a lot.
 
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