king2345;302268 said:for example after clamping or jalquing?
goingforit;302595 said:Never affected my gains. I say do what you want.
pepepe;302598 said:you'll never know how much more you could of gained quicker if you didnt ejaculate after your workouts.
pepepe;302598 said:you'll never know how much more you could of gained quicker if you didn't ejaculate after your workouts.
goingforit;302608 said:More than .5" EL and 3/8" EG in 8 weeks? I guess I'll cry about it later.
I think this myth is rubbish and unfounded. It's like saying you never know how much your lottery scratcher would have won if only you scratched one square at a time. It's BS, and stupid to say the least.
People put too much thought into abusing their cocks. It's simple, you stress the hell out of it and things change. Look around, there are hangers, pumpers, mechanical users, and plain ol' yankers and every group has made claims of gains.
pepepe;302630 said:Ive experimented with ejaculating and not after workouts and i found that i recover better with not ejaculating, and for you to say its bs and stupid as just ridiculous in itself to even say. You have never even attempted to see what would happen. how did you become a expert in such short of a pe life?
goingforit;302631 said:I am not an expert by any means, but I am also not a cool-aid drinker either.
Until there is a documented and controlled experiment regarding the difference, there is no proof that one way will produce more or less results.
Everyone gains differently, and to speculate that there are more gains without ejaculations is ridiculous when it is IMPOSSIBLE to tell. There would have to be two of you doing opposite disciplines over the exact same time period to say that YOU did or did not make the expected gains.
To say you recover faster without ejaculating is hearsay to others and means nothing. What if you actually gripped two holds tighter that time, or stretched with 5lbs more force in one direction? And, what if you actually gained more from ejaculating because it took longer to recover? Who knows, not me, and not you.
Give me a study with 300-600 men starting at the same time, doing the same techniques with the inclusion and exclusion of ejaculation over two years and then let's talk about this.
Until then it is a MYTH (true or not), and from what I can tell it would be BUSTED.
You need to look through the BS with this shit. A lot of this stuff is designed to mystify people in an effort to manipulate, be it for money, religion, or fraternity.
pepepe;302632 said:You have such a strong opinion on something that you havent even experimented with, makes no sense to me. i have tried and seen better results and so have others. I have no agenda whatsoever with these claims and sure as hell am not making any money or anything else from this site to benifet myself. when you actually try different things over years of pe you pick up a thing or 2.
goingforit;302634 said:When did I say that I have not experimented with this? I didn't.
And and strong opinion? Is it an opinion to say there is no proof? It really feels like I am stepping on the toes of a religion the way you guys are fighting this.
You guys are missing the point. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL. You cannot travel back in time and do it different. Therefor you will never know if one way is actually better for you.
I don't jerk off with each workout, but I have, and for someone to say don't because..... because why? I've read people say don't because it chemically changes your penis, and it takes longer to recover, and the tooth fairy won't leave a penny. Where is the proof?
Perhaps because I have not been doing this a long time I haven't fallen into the trap if believing everything that has been regurgitated over the existence of Penis Enlargement.
goingforit;302634 said:When did I say that I have not experimented with this? I didn't.
pepepe;302637 said:there is proof. ive experimented and not ejaculating definitely holds up better for me. its not impossible to tell , its just it takes trial and error and time. you havent been around long enough and havent experimented enough to even make a accurate decision on the topic. give it a try it might work for you. i speak from experience, i 'm not speculating. after your newbie gains fade and you hit a plateau you might be more willing to experiment, like ejaculting once /twice a month if you can hold out that long.
goingforit;302641 said:but so far no one has convinced me otherwise.
Chaco;302645 said:It appears that You are the one trying to convince people that ejaculating doesn't matter. The ones like myself that say it does are only saying it does for ourselves. We know this from our experience too not just because we read about it.
goingforit;302646 said:Exactly my point. So why not say it doesn't matter than to say it does? I am defending reason, not experience.
Chaco;302638 said:So what's your experience been?
I don't recover as fast if I cum after a workout.
goingforit--You are off-subject (your link) with the Thread. This is about post Penis Enlargement workouts, not sexual habits and prostate cancer.goingforit;302646 said:Exactly my point. So why not say it doesn't matter than to say it does? I am defending reason, not experience.
Read this. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3072021.stm Notice that I am giving you actual information, and not hearsay.
I rather be healthy than worry about what "I could have" gained through pe.
goingforit;302641 said:You have totally missed the point, but I hope you and your clone can continue your experiment with great results.
It seems like everyone expects the golden 8 x 6 overnight. Maybe this is the real issue.
You are right, I have only been at this for a short time, but I have made gains, and I have ejaculated every now and then.
I don't expect fast gains, and I don't expect an 8 x 6. I am in it for the long haul, and maybe someday I'll find the golden nugget of truth about this subject, but so far no one has convinced me otherwise.
Mr.Penis;302712 said:And question for you about this masturbation and gains. What if you use testosterone or other anabolic drugs? I think you can masturbate with those because your test level is very high all the time. What you guys think ?
Mr.Penis;302712 said:2 weeks ago i started to control myself and not masturbating so much. I mean no ejaculation. It feels like i can strech much more effective. use much more force and i get better streching measurements. im hanging all day much bigger and erections are really strong. Problem is jelqing. Dick is 100% erection if i jelq and that is what i dont want.
And question for you about this masturbation and gains. What if you use testosterone or other anabolic drugs? I think you can masturbate with those because your test level is very high all the time. What you guys think ?
Big Al;302601 said:...I am aware of the Chinese study...
Big Al;302601 said:Most professionals agree that a healthy sex life INCREASES hormonal output. The genitourinary system is like any other set of organs in the body- use it or lose it!
It's okay. As long as it's on a low level. Getting to much masturbation in, will wear your dick down, and from my experience it will be hard to do PE due to sore skin and so forth.for example after clamping or jalquing?
That's okay, just after you're done. Get some stretching in while you're in a fatigued state.I can’t help it. I leak precum the whole time I pump and I can’t resist handling my pumped up penis. Also I tend to have larger loads after I pump.
, thanks for the comment, I’m learning. I need to focus on the fatigued state. I still think I Have a sexualized idea of pumping. It turns me on too much. I can’t resist jerking off Afterwards.That's okay, just after you're done. Get some stretching in while you're in a fatigued state.