Hey guys this is my first post. I am a 19 year old east Indian Asian guy with a NP EL6.5, bpel6.8 not sure my girth right now. I feel small and it doesn't help that I have the stereotype above me. I haven't had a gf before or done anything with a girl. (I know that this whole 1st post is off-topic for this thread) I have been seriously depressed about my size in the past,and lack of girls in my life. Anyway thats my introduction (sorry if I put it in the wrong thread)

kdogg
 
Welcome, kdogg. I split your post off into its own thread in the newbie section as it is more an introduction. I don't think you have any reason to be depressed about your size, as you are actually on the big side. Average penis size is somewhere in the vicinity of 5.5 to 6 inches, and you're past that, so don't be depressed, be proud of that big pecker of yours! I'd be more depressed about the lack of women in your life, but there are plenty of discussions here about getting with women and confidence building, so make sure you explore the sexuality and dating sections, too. Being a good lay involves much more than just a big dick, so take advantage of all aspects of our forum, and the many experienced members here who can give you tips and tricks to help make you an impressive lover.
 
has anyone ever made a comment about this stereotype? if they do and its a female just say something like would you like me to prove the stereotype wrong and then go from there. this probably dosnt work but its a cool fantasy anyway.

if your size is preventing you from pursuing girls then im reassuring you know that you arent small and i think about 80% of girls wil consider you a good size and if you want to get bigger then heres the place to do it but you will have to convince yourself the size you have know is a good size.
 
And yes I have gotten comments about the stereotype. I got called the "little asian" because of that dumb stereotype and they have never seen my dick. >:( I'm moving to a different city I hope my luck changes with both friends and girls.
 
Consider yourself lucky kd0gg101. I'm also an East Indian male 21 yrs of age and unfortunatley my stats are at 5.75 NBP and 6 1/3 BP. For an Asian guy, your pretty well endowed, as its quite rare for us to have anything over 6.
 
ozzy83 said:
Consider yourself lucky kd0gg101. I'm also an East Indian male 21 yrs of age and unfortunatley my stats are at 5.75 NBP and 6 1/3 BP. For an Asian guy, your pretty well endowed, as its quite rare for us to have anything over 6.

Ya, but we can't compete when it comes to the white girls (if your interested in them) or other races other than our own. I have noticed this anyway. Well I think its because most of the girls are used to those "big ones" and we have that stereotype above us no matter how hard we try to get out of them.
 
Dont' obsess so much with size man. You have got more than enough length and average girth to satisfy a woman. Just work on your self esteem and confidence and forget what the stereotypes are. I know it affects you adversely but you don't want to be with a girl that makes her decision to go out with you or not based on her preconcieved notions. I've been with all types of women and the last thing you want is to get ED problems because of anxiety and depression.
 
kdogg101 said:
Ya, but we can't compete when it comes to the white girls (if your interested in them) or other races other than our own. I have noticed this anyway. Well I think its because most of the girls are used to those "big ones" and we have that stereotype above us no matter how hard we try to get out of them.
Don't think that man. Iam jealous and never have gotten with a asian chick but would love to, can't even get enough courage to hit on one. Think its just natural to think you can't compare b/c of the girls different ethnicity As for the whole "Big Ones" comment let me just say its B.S When u walk down the street and see 20 beautiful girls who arn't virgins i can almost guarantee 50 percent of them haven even gotten a dick as big as yours. Remember average is 5.5 even less in my opinion, also most chicks arn't size queens most gals are more intrested in you not your dick, with exception to sluts and well don't think u wanna marry a slut just fuck um. You beat one sterotype of asians all having small dicks, so i'll put a asian sterotype on ya i bet your smart, keen, classy, intelligent, and a strait up gentleman those qualities in it self are enough to land u 1 million beatiful girls of any ethnicity. Give yourself more credit brotha
 
originally posted by kong 1971
so don't be depressed, be proud of that big pecker of yours! I'd be more depressed about the lack of women in your life,

O man kong, what a great moral booster!
 
ozzy83 said:
Dont' obsess so much with size man. You have got more than enough length and average girth to satisfy a woman. Just work on your self esteem and confidence and forget what the stereotypes are. I know it affects you adversely but you don't want to be with a girl that makes her decision to go out with you or not based on her preconcieved notions. I've been with all types of women and the last thing you want is to get ED problems because of anxiety and depression.

Hey ozzy83 what were the reactions from the girls to your size? did you get them to "O". I did suffer ED for 3 months but it was because of depression though.(Also slowly receding) I am slowly gaining my self-esteem and confidence with my leaving my town. (it was a big cause of my depression as I found the depression receded when I left for a month in the summer) Thanks very much for sharing your experience and showing that guys like us can have a chance with girls even if We think we aren't big enough for these girls.
 
Kal-el said:
O man kong, what a great moral booster!

I think what kong meant was that his penis is more than enough for most women and that when kdogg realizes that it will lead to him getting more women.

By the way, welcome kdogg. I know the way that you feel but I think that when you understand that the size of your penis and the amount of women in your life is all down to you and is not set in stone and constant then you will begin to become happier.

You can change both of these things and if you stick to a good program at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] then you will do. If you work hard consistently then it will pay off. I doubt that any woman will believe the stereotype when you having a bulging 8"x6" in your trousers.

Personally [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] has changed my life. It has allowed me to take control of it a lot more. For every person that believes that they are better than me because of a stereotype or something else I pull just a bit harder in manual stretching or jelq one more time. That's a good way to change the negative energy into positive and it will make you feel better about yourself.

Good luck with whatever you choose to do.
 
Hey guys, I was wondering what everyone's thoughts are on this situation? I was recently offered a 3some with her husband and her. (keep in mind I am a virgin still) She offered me this oppurtunity but I would have to let a guy suck me off to get to fuck her, and for her to blow me. Big question is did I make a mistake by saying no? I'm not really comfortable with the whole guy on guy thing at all. I've been really scraped for oppurtunities for sex in college.( I know college should be one big fuckfest with some hotties and some books added in of course but hasn't been so far= 0 hookups) Also does anyone have any college experience that they would like to share about hooking up with some chicks in school? I'm turning 20 soon, and I'm kinda looking to lose this virgin thing.<:( Anyway thanks for replies
 
i think you were right to say no. never do anything that you are not comfortable with - you will only regret it later on!
as far as women go - its totally a confidence thing (bit of a vicious circle). girls love guys who show that they have confidence. my advice to you is this - dont worry about being turned down. IT WILL HAPPenis EnlargementN. even if they are attracted to you they could still turn you down - wrong timing etc. so you never know what will happen, next time you see a girl you like (in college etc) find a way of initiating conversation, and talk about various things, if she mentions her bf - dont bother. just find someone else. eventually you will find someone whos willing to give you a shot. p.s. stay away from the slutty type ;)
 
6.5 is big in most girls books. You can get a 3/4 of an inch in your first newbie gains. It wont take that long if you stay dedicated and use intensity. That would put you at 7.25 NBP and that is considered Pretty big. That is about the size of tommy lee and everyone thinks hes huge. I wish i woulda started out at 6.5 NBP, i would be at 7.5 by now. So, Kdogg dont sweat it man. You just need a lil bit and you will be considered HUGE.
 
BODY BUILDER 05 said:
6.5 is big in most girls books. You can get a 3/4 of an inch in your first newbie gains. It wont take that long if you stay dedicated and use intensity. That would put you at 7.25 NBP and that is considered Pretty big. That is about the size of tommy lee and everyone thinks hes huge. I wish i woulda started out at 6.5 NBP, i would be at 7.5 by now. So, Kdogg dont sweat it man. You just need a lil bit and you will be considered HUGE.

Hey bro thanks for the post but can you read my previous post about the 3 some? And throw your 2 cents in? Thanks kdogg
 
Personally i wouldnt have done the 3 some, i wouldnt want some guy suckin my nobin. That is disgusting in my oppion, you will get other opportunities to score with girls without having to get head from a guy. So beat yourself up for not doing it. Like someone said in this forum, its good that you didnt do it cause you might have regreted it.
 
Yeah man screw that, once you've had sex a few times you'll realize that its great, but it isn't worth compromising a whole hell of alot for i.e.-your not gay, nor do you want to be, therefore you shouldn't have to get sucked by some dude JUST to fuck some slut. Alot of girls will do more for alot less.
I too am in college right now, and while I hook up with relative frequency, it is not the big fuckfest you have bought into. It is portrayed as such, and may be so for a little while. This is probably why fresHydromaxan girls are so easy, because they've been conditioned to believe that they should just let go and go crazy at this point in their lives. Either that or they try to cling to the high school ideal of relationships (I tend to not take them very seriously either way). After a year or so they realize how difficult it is to keep up with this lifestyle and grow up some, or they just turn into crazy bitches lol.
As far as penis size goes, 3 words. Girls are stuuuupid! You probably already know that since you are asian they will already view you as small. Me being white, and below 6 feet tall, they probably decide at first glance that I'm packing small to average (lol wrongo). Then black guys are automatically all monsters right? (lol wrong again...). This is a blessing in disguise, however. First because once you do get with them there is not as much pressure to perform, and secondly it weeds out the stupid bitches for you. All getting with sluts does is fuck with your head, your wallet, and possibly your health. So fuck them they're not worth your time. When you actually do get with a girl, at your size they'll probably perceive you as bigger than your actual measurements (depending in part to your girth I suppose) since they can't estimate for shit!
My advice to you, make yourself a little network of women. This sounds harder than it really is if you know how to play it. Firstly, fuck clubs, pubs, and bars. Yeah there are women there, but only every guy in the damn world knows this and hits those spots up to get laid, and with your perceived confidence issues this is gonna put you at a huge dissadvantage to the hookup artists. There are gonna be 21 year old guys there that can buy the little fresHydromaxan sluts alchohol, and 30 something guys that have money and experience and are looking for dumb, drunk, college slut pussy. Then the regular club-dancer type guys, usually black or hispanic, that like to show off their dancing prowess shamelessly, and usually get to cherry pick the drunk white girls afterward. Not to mention the writhing multitude of guys just like you all scrambling against eachother to get at what's left over. You can skip all this bullshit by playing it smart. First and foremost if you go to a relatively populated University, they will have a huge amount of student run clubs and programs available to you. Find a few you like (or can stand) that have flexible commitments, there you will meet more mature girls, and the ice breaking will be much easier given that you already have something in common. If you do join more than one you will set up a nice little network. Next would be charitable or volunteer type events that are set up by the school. I know it sounds cliche', but this puts something like a 3 to 1 ratio of girls to guys if not more. Not only that, but their generally easier to talk to, and the majority are single (think about it, they would probably be hanging out with their boyfriend if they had one, and if they were total bitches would they be doing something thats not for themselves...no). I know it sounds like alot of work at first, but it is worth it. Besides is it any less work than cramming shoulder to shoulder in a sweaty club with music that blasts out your eardrums because its so loud, just so you can maybe grind up against some slut with heavy liquor on her breath who you won't be able to talk to because its too damn loud, and who you probably won't see again anyway. All dressed up in nice clothes to get beer splashed on your sleeves and go home with feet sore from dress shoes reeking of cigarette smoke and beer. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy parties, and they can be great places to meet girls too, except that their often expecting to get hit on there which could be good or bad, but clubs are just a waste of my damn time. Well I hope that some of that helped, sorry it was so long winded but I just happened to know what I was talking about. Good luck with your Penis Enlargement, your gonna love it, and go bag you some hoes. Just don't let any of them play you, if ever in doubt whether or not a girl likes you, forget about her because she most likely doesn't. If she does it will just make her want you more:) .
 
bIgjOe said:
Yeah man screw that, once you've had sex a few times you'll realize that its great, but it isn't worth compromising a whole hell of alot for i.e.-your not gay, nor do you want to be, therefore you shouldn't have to get sucked by some dude JUST to fuck some slut. Alot of girls will do more for alot less.
I too am in college right now, and while I hook up with relative frequency, it is not the big fuckfest you have bought into. It is portrayed as such, and may be so for a little while. This is probably why fresHydromaxan girls are so easy, because they've been conditioned to believe that they should just let go and go crazy at this point in their lives. Either that or they try to cling to the high school ideal of relationships (I tend to not take them very seriously either way). After a year or so they realize how difficult it is to keep up with this lifestyle and grow up some, or they just turn into crazy bitches lol.
As far as penis size goes, 3 words. Girls are stuuuupid! You probably already know that since you are asian they will already view you as small. Me being white, and below 6 feet tall, they probably decide at first glance that I'm packing small to average (lol wrongo). Then black guys are automatically all monsters right? (lol wrong again...). This is a blessing in disguise, however. First because once you do get with them there is not as much pressure to perform, and secondly it weeds out the stupid bitches for you. All getting with sluts does is fuck with your head, your wallet, and possibly your health. So fuck them they're not worth your time. When you actually do get with a girl, at your size they'll probably perceive you as bigger than your actual measurements (depending in part to your girth I suppose) since they can't estimate for shit!
My advice to you, make yourself a little network of women. This sounds harder than it really is if you know how to play it. Firstly, fuck clubs, pubs, and bars. Yeah there are women there, but only every guy in the damn world knows this and hits those spots up to get laid, and with your perceived confidence issues this is gonna put you at a huge dissadvantage to the hookup artists. There are gonna be 21 year old guys there that can buy the little fresHydromaxan sluts alchohol, and 30 something guys that have money and experience and are looking for dumb, drunk, college slut pussy. Then the regular club-dancer type guys, usually black or hispanic, that like to show off their dancing prowess shamelessly, and usually get to cherry pick the drunk white girls afterward. Not to mention the writhing multitude of guys just like you all scrambling against eachother to get at what's left over. You can skip all this bullshit by playing it smart. First and foremost if you go to a relatively populated University, they will have a huge amount of student run clubs and programs available to you. Find a few you like (or can stand) that have flexible commitments, there you will meet more mature girls, and the ice breaking will be much easier given that you already have something in common. If you do join more than one you will set up a nice little network. Next would be charitable or volunteer type events that are set up by the school. I know it sounds cliche', but this puts something like a 3 to 1 ratio of girls to guys if not more. Not only that, but their generally easier to talk to, and the majority are single (think about it, they would probably be hanging out with their boyfriend if they had one, and if they were total bitches would they be doing something thats not for themselves...no). I know it sounds like alot of work at first, but it is worth it. Besides is it any less work than cramming shoulder to shoulder in a sweaty club with music that blasts out your eardrums because its so loud, just so you can maybe grind up against some slut with heavy liquor on her breath who you won't be able to talk to because its too damn loud, and who you probably won't see again anyway. All dressed up in nice clothes to get beer splashed on your sleeves and go home with feet sore from dress shoes reeking of cigarette smoke and beer. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy parties, and they can be great places to meet girls too, except that their often expecting to get hit on there which could be good or bad, but clubs are just a waste of my damn time. Well I hope that some of that helped, sorry it was so long winded but I just happened to know what I was talking about. Good luck with your Penis Enlargement, your gonna love it, and go bag you some hoes. Just don't let any of them play you, if ever in doubt whether or not a girl likes you, forget about her because she most likely doesn't. If she does it will just make her want you more:) .

Hey man thanks for going into such detail. I dropped the clubs and bar scene after the rents told me about my money going a little too fast for their comfort. I really haven't had an urge to go back to that life of clubbing either. I'm not sure if it's maturity or just generally sick of the bs that go on at the clubs. Also really haven't been drinking much either. I went to a Frat party at my school and it turned out to be a sausage fest with two or 3 taken chicks there. (Stereotype of lots of chicks hooking up with frat guys doesnt seem true when looking at this frat) I think I get a few looks from chicks but then that so called stereotype probably is going through their mind) I haven't really cared much about chicks trying to do well but if a chick does come up that I see is interesting I try for. The ratio at the school are 75% chicks 25% guys. Weird eh that I haven't hooked up? I joined up with something called Peer support and thinking of joining something called the social wellness association. There director is pretty hot and 19) The downside with the peer support is most of the people are either gay,lesbian or some really unattractive chicks (I didn't know this before) I guess I might as well finish it as it will probably help with Law school. The gay guy is also helping me out with the hook up of that director chick. Also anyone thanks for helping me with this shit with chicks. BIg Joe thanks man I will try the volunteer stuff, and try for some more organizations next yr as the registration for alot of the organizations passed on me and also I am still getting used to college work. I'm trying to get into Penis Enlargement more. I will probably order AB and the members area when I get back to home.(probably more likely to order the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] because of having a roomate next yr) I want to get to 8x6 for sure. I'm still kinda scared of Penis Enlargement because of the horror stories of some of the guys here. I do want to get bigger for sure but want to do it in the safest way possible also.
Kdogg
 
kdogg101 said:
I do want to get bigger for sure but want to do it in the safest way possible also.
Kdogg

Simple streching and jelqs won't hurt you unless you are stupid ( which I don't think you are). You will know when to stop ... when it hurts hum.. anywyas by starting softly, there absolutely no danger.

As for the confidence you should have when hitting on girl... You really have to work on yourself... Not only physically. To me it seems you are hidding (probably subconsiously) the real problem you have, which is poor self esteem. I am sure you know some guy that are so ugly, yet are hitting on every girl they encounter.... And even get laid.

You know that a bigger penis will give you more confidence. Well many other thing will get you some more confidence. Just think about it :S

Oh and on a side note, If you have seen the recent documentary on penis size where DLD apears, some hot french girls (white girls) are saying their favorite size is... 16 cm, which is what you have huh? And guess what, they were shy to say it, probably because they know it's BIGGER than what they really need...

Start going at a gym, read about palmistry, numerology, massage, all those girl magnet things. Those are making good opening as well, which will boost 400% your self confidence that you can approach any girl you want!

Have fun dude, if there is one place made to have fun, it's the dating scene. If you're not genuinely having fun, you DON'T GET LAID. Final :)
 
Some great advices above. Also I think girls don't just pick you on penis size they assume you to have. They look at the 'total-you', many aspects. Although is a percentage of sluts around I doubt white girls in general or most of them to think you're small and turn you down because of cliche's. Maybe it's a fraction who does and it got in your head now. And if it's in your head unconsciously you will find confirmation after confirmation.

At least where I live girls don't exclude possible guys because of what they think their penis size will be. And I'm convinced that even if they would know one's bigger they would not automatically choose him. I've got (goodlooking and decentlooking) white, black and asian friends and neither and it's not like the asian guys have a harder time getting laid than the others. But that's where I live, The Netherlands.

But either way I would fvck what everyone thinks, would think or says and just go for every girl you like.

Good luck with your Penis Enlargement, great starting point.
 
J.J. said:
And if it's in your head unconsciously you will find confirmation after confirmation.

He has a point here. It's a question of perception. If you wake up one day thinking everyone hates you, chances are you will only see people that dislike you. Or if you happen to buy a new piece of clothe, you will probably notice that more people has those clothes than you previously thought.

I don't know if that was clear, but in short, if you think girls are discarding you, then you will only notice "discardation" from girls, even if they arn't in reality.
 
ggogeta said:
He has a point here. It's a question of perception. If you wake up one day thinking everyone hates you, chances are you will only see people that dislike you. Or if you happen to buy a new piece of clothe, you will probably notice that more people has those clothes than you previously thought.

I don't know if that was clear, but in short, if you think girls are discarding you, then you will only notice "discardation" from girls, even if they arn't in reality.

Hey man that question of perception and how I viewed people was very true in HS actually. Namely because I wasn't invited to parties or people wanting to be friends with me. Trivial HS crap like that. Also I have some questions how do I survive the hometown life again? ( have to go back to work to come back to school here) Four months of it and I could barely survive the christmas break<:( It's the rents mainly that hit me at the core. Also the bad isolation of people is still present. (that hs stuff is still there, I just ran away from it) Anyway again thanks to anyone who helped with this thread and threw their experiences in here, you don't know how much you have helped me through the tough times.:) Thanks [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words],Kdogg
 
well if you're getting "isolated" by people, that's for a reason 1) You think you are rejected and then only see people rejecting you ( even though they maybe arn't at the beginning or 2) you are behaving in such a way that is saying " I don't want to talk to you"

Try to talk to a girl whom you never seen before, and see how she will be gentle with you, at least she'll do a smile at first. People are all gentle at a first encounter, all you need to do is to stay cool, not agressive, intraverted or something, and chances are you are making a new friend. Now if you think you can make friend with anyone in 5 minutes you're wrong, but then again the attitude of "well if you're behaving in such a way that I dislike, you can go to hell :)" ( notice the smile) is shown by yourself, you,re on the good path.

I think I wasnt much clear... hard for me to explain

Thanks for the HS definition :)
 
slowly I'm trucking thru this hometown life... had some really bad depressing days for sure... I'm finishing an electrican program here, then it's back to the city to see what life has in store for me...haven't noticed gains yet, but I'll keep going, I badly need some confidence. I keep looking down at my pecker, and it seems so small, even though I measure it, and I keep getting the measurement in my sig. How do people psyc themselves out of those thoughts? I'm having a hell of a time with that, and it leads to feeling shitty. anyway thanks to anyone who reads these rants
 
Wow, I have reading this thread going over my past and now laugh at how stupid some of the crap I went through was. I nailed girls, got compliments on my dick (thanks to the community here) and finally figuring out my self-worth. To the Indian guys out there, get out of your head and broaden your circle beyond your Indian group, as it will help a ton with getting girls and finding your path.
Also, bought a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X30[/words] and been using it for about four months on a 4 day schedule. Now 7x5.4 BP because of the efforts. Glad to be back at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and noticed how much the community has changed.
 
kdogg101;701905 said:
Wow, I have reading this thread going over my past and now laugh at how stupid some of the crap I went through was. I nailed girls, got compliments on my dick (thanks to the community here) and finally figuring out my self-worth. To the Indian guys out there, get out of your head and broaden your circle beyond your Indian group, as it will help a ton with getting girls and finding your path.
Also, bought a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X30[/words] and been using it for about four months on a 4 day schedule. Now 7x5.4 BP because of the efforts. Glad to be back at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and noticed how much the community has changed.

Welcome home my Brother! So many are returning! So excited about PE this year.
 
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