I currently weight 459 pounds, need advices in what to do to loose weight

What I'm saying isn't stupid at all...I'm just giving my opinion. I'm not going to debate with you because I notice that you like to hear yourself talk, or in this case read what you have typed.

It is obvious that there are things he NEEDS. It is very simple.

A personal trainer isn't going to "catch a fish" for him. He/she would "teach" him the proper eating habits and routines to lose the weight he wants.


ps. I don't know why you are attacking my opinion, as far as I'm concerned what you are saying has no more weight than anyone else on here.
 
Juggers;278974 said:
What I'm saying isn't stupid at all...I'm just giving my opinion. I'm not going to debate with you because I notice that you like to hear yourself talk, or in this case read what you have typed.

It is obvious that there are things he NEEDS. It is very simple.

A personal trainer isn't going to "catch a fish" for him. He/she would "teach" him the proper eating habits and routines to lose the weight he wants.


ps. I don't know why you are attacking my opinion, as far as I'm concerned what you are saying has no more weight than anyone else on here.
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You missed the point. I'd like to give you benefit of doubt that you are not that asinine, but it's difficult. You put too much effort into straw man pride saving attempts with ad hominem.

I know what an opinion is. I know what a fact is. I know how to discern opinionated people dressing up their opinions as facts. Do you think you do?

You can prove yourself wrong, and prove for yourself that my posts are not attacking your character nor your opinions nor any of the garbage you want to allege, no matter how you slice it, by answering a simple point that I keep getting at and you keep dodging:
Is it a fact that he needs a trainer to reach his fat loss goals? :s

Okay, here's some more of the same:

Is it true that all he needs, in regards to this thread, are the tools to reach his fat loss goals?

It is ironic that you concede that it is simple while saying he "needs" a "CPT". Or, is it not? :s

ROTFLMAO.
 
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Hey juggers, trainers are shit compared to valuable information on the internet. They will act friendly as long as they are getting your money. Proper eating habits and the best routines could be found easily on the internet jackass. Penile already busted your balls with facts, don't post in this thread anymore. You are saying trainers are needed because your lazy ass didn't want to research your own shit. You have paid for trainers huh, L O L?
 
Wow...I didn't say that is all he needs...go back and read my post again. I said on top of everything else (the internet, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], ect) he would need a personal trainer. Where do you find error in what I suggested?

No, it is not a FACT that he NEEDS a personal trainer...although it is a FACT that the man is clinically obese and should be trying everything he can to fix the problem. I just suggested something else.


Re: I currently weight 459 pounds, need advices in what to do to loose weight


Some really good advice...however you are in my opinion (as a personal trainer) in critical need of some serious help (as you know).

You should seriously invest in getting a personal trainer to help you professionally, and follow the advice of the people on this forum too...they know a lot to get you started. Don't sleep on getting help from a CPT, they will bring you beyond what you thought you could ever achieve.

and PaineKillah you are ignorant. I am sure penilepersist would ejoy picking apart what you just wrote. Who do you think put all that information on the internet? People did. It didn't get there by itself.
 
Juggers you are a dumbass. It doesn't take thousands of pages to learn how to lose weight, but I guess thats how long it would take you two idiots to learn something very simple.
 
L O L BRAIN SURGERY? Give me a fuckin break if you can't learn the basics of losing weight within 20 minutes you are mentally retarded. There are many diets and routines available for free on the internet. Stop being lazy jack asses and paying trainers who aint worth a shit.
 
painekillah;278984 said:
Hey juggers, trainers are shit compared to valuable information on the internet. They will act friendly as long as they are getting your money. Proper eating habits and the best routines could be found easily on the internet jackass. Penile already busted your balls with facts, don't post in this thread anymore. You are saying trainers are needed because your lazy ass didn't want to research your own shit. You have paid for trainers huh, L O L?
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I've never paid for trainers, but I did have a trainer show me I needed to adjust my tricep extension form when she observed me lifting. It took a lot of stress off my elbow joint and isolated the muscle better. There is an epidemic of incorrect form in your average gym, so it's not a bad idea for someone new, or years removed, from exercises to opt for a few sessions to learn.
 
penguinsfan;279018 said:
I've never paid for trainers, but I did have a trainer show me I needed to adjust my tricep extension form when she observed me lifting. It took a lot of stress off my elbow joint and isolated the muscle better. There is an epidemic of incorrect form in your average gym, so it's not a bad idea for someone new, or years removed, from exercises to opt for a few sessions to learn.
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A good point...I work in a gym and see a lot of incorrect form. I notice that people just mimic what other people do, even it is a machine with the directions on it they still use it wrong.
 
I didn't learn shit about working out here so why the fuck would I spend 20 minutes on this site dumbass? Quit changing subjects. I said losing weight could be learned in 20 minutes. He stated he already trained for boxing so he should know what to do, he just needed some extra tips. I asked for his routine and he hasn't replied yet, just saying he needs a trainer is fuckin ridiculous.
 
Hey Big guy,
Just stoppin' back in to offer up a bit of reason amongst the ego-inflation and chest beating.

I hope to GOD that you have enough sense to ignore rather than to listen to either of the PeePee brothers (penile & Paine).

(One must wonder why they are not, at this very moment, picking up their shared Nobel prize awarded due to their uncanny and unexplained ability to perfectly and immediately diagnose any and all of your existing, hidden and/or potential medical problems by doing nothing more than staring at a few words splashed across a computer screen.)

Such a gift should be shared with all humanity, I beleive, rather than squandered upon we; the semi-sentient and pathetic masses that we seem to be (according to them) here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words].

But, getting back to you. If your weight gain has been somewhat unexplained and not due solely to the all-too-common laziness and overeating, (been there, done that), then a coupla tests just might be in order: Insulin resistance, thyroid, liver function and a good-old-fashioned stress-test are a few that come to mind.

A doctor/nutritionist/naturopathician/chirpractor etc. could suggest some more, I'm sure.

Human body is pretty damn complex and the list of things that can go wrong is, literally, endless. Screen out some of the more potentially dangerous factors and your progress should be that much quicker and trouble free.

It's pretty easy for someone to hide behind the anonymity of an internet forum and bloviate in absolutes (one of the easiest ways known to be both completely wrong and completely self-alienating, by the way)...but if you were to follow those guys' advice blindly and then dropped dead of a heart attack; I don't think any of us would ever be aware of it, except for your lack of further input into this forum.

(As a quick aside; I gotta say that I am actually impressed by their collective courage in displaying both arrogance and ignorance in such quantities in such a public forum.. don't you agree?)

Anyways:

Not to be insulting but your body-fat puts you into the category of "morbidly obese" ...morbidly as in: "it could kill you". Now I don't know what your finances are like or your personal disposition to doctors in general but if you can afford it and are amenable to it then I'd suggest covering at least the basics. The next 60 years or so just might be your best!

Good luck to ya, and keep us posted !
 
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