dmoney101;458801 said:
how much does it cost?

They are $99 and there is so much more you can do with it. I am not an avid hanger, I only hung for a few months using the Bib. The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] really spreads the weight load across the entire chamber making it very even and comfortable. Wrapping is a must but once you get it down it is all smooth sailing. I am not a big hanger but from the reviews I have gotten guys love the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] for hanging.
 
dmoney101;458725 said:
yea...i tried the pliers and it just ruined the clamp
If it's flexible enough that pliers could ruin it, I'm wondering why it can't be flexed? Do you mean that the pliers just scratched it?
 
MoreGains123;458858 said:
If it's flexible enough that pliers could ruin it, I'm wondering why it can't be flexed? Do you mean that the pliers just scratched it?

see, i had it pictured in my hand that the edges would bend out smoothly, but instead it bent in a squared off shape and it ended up making like a triangle kinda shape haha
 
dmoney101;458872 said:
see, i had it pictured in my hand that the edges would bend out smoothly, but instead it bent in a squared off shape and it ended up making like a triangle kinda shape haha
Generally speaking, when you bend metal with pliers you should do it in small increments.
 
MoreGains123;458887 said:
Generally speaking, when you bend metal with pliers you should do it in small increments.

Heating it up a bit will help too....learned that on "Wheeler Dealer's" UK:)
 
MoreGains123;458887 said:
Generally speaking, when you bend metal with pliers you should do it in small increments.

i did. i did it as carefully as possible but the metal just isn't malleable like that. it's kinda flimsy and sticks in whatever position it bends to
 
i actually tried using the semi-messed up clamp today and it worked a little better. the wrap still slipped off after a couple minutes though
 
dmoney101;459852 said:
i actually tried using the semi-messed up clamp today and it worked a little better. the wrap still slipped off after a couple minutes though
Be sure you're applying the hanger with the idea the tissue to take the weight is in front of the conical portion. As the weight is applied the hanger will move forward and the tissue will bunch. The conical shape allows the tissue to take a funnel shape thereby stopping the hanger from moving any farther forward.

It's ok if your wrap slips. The wrap is only to provide cushion between the hanger and your skin. It serves no other role. If the hanger is slipping keep trying to find that spot where it performs as I just described.

Usually the spot is about 1 inch behind the glans. Therefore your T-band should start about 1/2 inch behind the glans and barber-pole wrap toward the base to protect the entire area the hanger will contact.
 
MoreGains123;459961 said:
Be sure you're applying the hanger with the idea the tissue to take the weight is in front of the conical portion. As the weight is applied the hanger will move forward and the tissue will bunch. The conical shape allows the tissue to take a funnel shape thereby stopping the hanger from moving any farther forward.

It's ok if your wrap slips. The wrap is only to provide cushion between the hanger and your skin. It serves no other role. If the hanger is slipping keep trying to find that spot where it performs as I just described.

Usually the spot is about 1 inch behind the glans. Therefore your T-band should start about 1/2 inch behind the glans and barber-pole wrap toward the base to protect the entire area the hanger will contact.

I think i just need to get a 1.5" clamp since bending it gave a better grip. plus i'll be able to use less wrap which would allow it to grab more of my penis and less [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap
 
dmoney101;460256 said:
I think i just need to get a 1.5" clamp since bending it gave a better grip. plus I'll be able to use less wrap which would allow it to grab more of my penis and less [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap
I strongly advise against [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] wrap. It is inherently a cushion and it will collapse and become abrasive.

Theraband is ideal since it will not malform and it will not dig into the skin on the micro level. Anything fabric will since it's essentially stitched fibers woven as a matrix. This will act like drywall sandpaper screen on your skin. Most issues don't surface until the higher weights, but they are problems waiting to happen. It's better to start with the right stuff.
 
MoreGains123;460275 said:
I strongly advise against [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] wrap. It is inherently a cushion and it will collapse and become abrasive.

Theraband is ideal since it will not malform and it will not dig into the skin on the micro level. Anything fabric will since it's essentially stitched fibers woven as a matrix. This will act like drywall sandpaper screen on your skin. Most issues don't surface until the higher weights, but they are problems waiting to happen. It's better to start with the right stuff.

the band i got is so slick, i feel like even with a tight grip it'll be prone to slip off
 
dmoney101;460310 said:
the band i got is so slick, i feel like even with a tight grip it'll be prone to slip off
Wash the T-band with dish soap whenever it gets slick feeling. This will make it tacky. However, it's very important to remember the T-band is only there to buffer your skin from the clamp.

If you're slipping, it's not the T-band's fault. It's the grip. Too many guys think the wrap is supposed to do the job of holding things in this sort of order: hanger-wrap-skin-internals. Really what you need for the higher weights is: hanger-internals. The wrap only protects the skin.

I have hung countless sets with the wrap so loose it slips. I prefer it that way. You'll know when you have the proper grip when you can hang with loose wrap. Remember that you want the internals to "bunch up" into the conical portion of the front of the hanger. This dam of internal tissue is what holds the weight. If T-band is holding the weight then that means the skin is holding that weight. All you'll get is skin stretch and soreness and eventually skin-break. It'll work up to about 10 lbs but you will never be able to hang a significant number of sets above that weight.
 
MoreGains123;460319 said:
Wash the T-band with dish soap whenever it gets slick feeling. This will make it tacky. However, it's very important to remember the T-band is only there to buffer your skin from the clamp.

If you're slipping, it's not the T-band's fault. It's the grip. Too many guys think the wrap is supposed to do the job of holding things in this sort of order: hanger-wrap-skin-internals. Really what you need for the higher weights is: hanger-internals. The wrap only protects the skin.

I have hung countless sets with the wrap so loose it slips. I prefer it that way. You'll know when you have the proper grip when you can hang with loose wrap. Remember that you want the internals to "bunch up" into the conical portion of the front of the hanger. This dam of internal tissue is what holds the weight. If T-band is holding the weight then that means the skin is holding that weight. All you'll get is skin stretch and soreness and eventually skin-break. It'll work up to about 10 lbs but you will never be able to hang a significant number of sets above that weight.

i see...i guess i just haven't felt that grip like i'm supposed to. i'm going to try to find some other method of making a homemade hanger. i feel like if i could get hanging down pact i'll see the gains i've been wanting for the last 3 years
 
dmoney101;460396 said:
i see...i guess i just haven't felt that grip like i'm supposed to. i'm going to try to find some other method of making a homemade hanger. i feel like if i could get hanging down pact i'll see the gains i've been wanting for the last 3 years
Hanging definitely works but you must be diligent and unrushed. Build up slowly in weight: 1 lb a week. It won't be long before you're at the weight needed to lengthen. But if you rush you end up either untrained for higher weights or simply injured.

I always tried to get in nine 20-minute sets a day. Starting with my highest weight and then knocking off 5% to 10% each set until I got to about 60% of the starting weight. Don't try to hang your highest weight more than once in a day. That weight is most likely to cause injury.

Another thing about grip: your glans should not be inflated like a balloon. It should never be under pressure if you're gripping properly. (Granted you do need to squeeze it before tightening the hanger, but after that it shouldn't inflate or be pressurized.)
 
MoreGains123;460420 said:
Hanging definitely works but you must be diligent and unrushed. Build up slowly in weight: 1 lb a week. It won't be long before you're at the weight needed to lengthen. But if you rush you end up either untrained for higher weights or simply injured.

I always tried to get in nine 20-minute sets a day. Starting with my highest weight and then knocking off 5% to 10% each set until I got to about 60% of the starting weight. Don't try to hang your highest weight more than once in a day. That weight is most likely to cause injury.

Another thing about grip: your glans should not be inflated like a balloon. It should never be under pressure if you're gripping properly. (Granted you do need to squeeze it before tightening the hanger, but after that it shouldn't inflate or be pressurized.)

i've been doing pe off and on for like 2 or 3 years, so i figured i'd start at 5 lbs. i tried 10 lbs and it wasn't uncomfortable at all for the time i got it to hold. i was planning on using Dashdeming's routine where he hung heavy for shorter amounts of time. something tells me that's what i need to do to gain, but of course i've got to work my way up before i can think about going heavy.
 
Be careful with Dash's routine. It can cause injury fast! I tried it a few years ago and it definitely worked, but I got very concerned about darkening. It seems to do that in a hurry.
 
MoreGains123;460505 said:
Be careful with Dash's routine. It can cause injury fast! I tried it a few years ago and it definitely worked, but I got very concerned about darkening. It seems to do that in a hurry.

yea i used to do a lot of clamping and that taught me a lot about my penis and when to take a break. i'll definitely be careful with it if i can ever figure out a hanger that works (that's not $135)
 
dmoney101;460585 said:
yea i used to do a lot of clamping and that taught me a lot about my penis and when to take a break. i'll definitely be careful with it if i can ever figure out a hanger that works (that's not $135)
I think the Hard Core Bib is about $70. Only the bigger Bib is $135 (I think). I never could dial-in those bigger padded ones.
 
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