Hanger always slips off

what does your home made hanger look like? I am using a captan's wench. and it works. I am at 7ibs. As far as painful goes, You have to look at how it is being clamped. Also a good wrap is necessary. I cut a strip from an old towel and wrap it around before I place the hanger on. And warming up and stretches also help make it more comfortable .
 
Don't bother with that thing it's just a waste of money.

Wrapping correctly takes time to figure out. Use lower weight until you get the feel for wrapping - for that weight. As you go up in weight you'll learn how to adapt your wrapping.
 
If you are going to hang there are only a couple options to purchase as hangers, the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] or the Bib. Outside of these two hangers some build their own, like the Snake CHoker by KingSnake. When hanging, extending and the like, it is vital to learn to wrap correctly. There is a couple of wrapping videos in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] FOrum and the Hangers Forum. Take your time, learn to wrap with expertise, and you will be golden. When I di not know how to wrap I could not hang 5 pounds without piunching and pain, after mastering wrapping I was able to hang up to 50!
 
Agree on what DLD said, wrapping is 90% in hanging, really. Just be creative and take whatever feels comfortable and doesn't cause slipping. I read in the forums about a guy who used an insole as a wrap which according to him was amazing. Fantasy is not defined :).
 
dmoney101;455268 said:
i get my wrapping thick enough that there's no discomfort whatsoever, until the hanger falls off 30 seconds later
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The thicker the wrap the faster it falls off. Also, thicker wrap adversely affects the hanger's effectiveness. I know it seems counter-intuitive, but thinner wrap is better.
 
Try a two ply wrap of theraban on the skin with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] on the theraban. One tight wrap of each, very smooth and even, see if this helps. Any kind of wrinkle or bump in the wrap will cause pain. Wrapping is king with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words].
 
MoreGains123;455273 said:
The thicker the wrap the faster it falls off. Also, thicker wrap adversely affects the hanger's effectiveness. I know it seems counter-intuitive, but thinner wrap is better.
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I guess i get a smaller pipe clamp for it to work
 
KingD just made a post showing how to use [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] more comfortably, maybe it will work for you too. Last post in the thread.
 
dmoney101;455280 said:
I guess i get a smaller pipe clamp for it to work
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I recommend using a strip of Theraband 2-1/2" wide by 15" long. Start the wrap about 3/4" behind the glans. Wrap around the penis, but loosely. Not loose enough for space between the T-band and skin, but not tight at all. As you wrap, move 1/4" toward the penis base like a barber pole. When done, apply a piece of tape to hold it. (Have the tape ready before you start. Also: fold over one end of thetape to use as a handle to remove the tape because it's hard to peel tape off of T-band.)

You will find this to be the most comfortable wrap of all. I have tried numerous wrap styles, materials and combination of materials but nothing worked as well as this.
 
MoreGains123;455420 said:
I recommend using a strip of Theraband 2-1/2" wide by 15" long. Start the wrap about 3/4" behind the glans. Wrap around the penis, but loosely. Not loose enough for space between the T-band and skin, but not tight at all. As you wrap, move 1/4" toward the penis base like a barber pole. When done, apply a piece of tape to hold it. (Have the tape ready before you start. Also: fold over one end of thetape to use as a handle to remove the tape because it's hard to peel tape off of T-band.)

You will find this to be the most comfortable wrap of all. I have tried numerous wrap styles, materials and combination of materials but nothing worked as well as this.
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you mean the exercise band right?
 
dmoney101;455356 said:
wouldn't foam just break as soon as you tightened the clamp?
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Not at all, it is quite resilient.
 
dmoney101;455427 said:
you mean the exercise band right?
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Yes. And I forgot to mention: put a very light coat of vaseline on your penis. Very light, wipe off any excess. Unfortunately this also means you'll have to wash the T-band every so often, but comfort is king.

Do not use too much. Too little is better than too much.
 
MoreGains123;455502 said:
Yes. And I forgot to mention: put a very light coat of vaseline on your penis. Very light, wipe off any excess. Unfortunately this also means you'll have to wash the T-band every so often, but comfort is king.

Do not use too much. Too little is better than too much.
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you think i should get a smaller pipe repair clamp then? I made a hanger with the 2" clamp like Kingsnake recommended but maybe i need a 1.5" one
 
dmoney101;455798 said:
you think i should get a smaller pipe repair clamp then? I made a hanger with the 2" clamp like Kingsnake recommended but maybe i need a 1.5" one
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I don't know about using pipe clamps. I don't like the idea of not being able to take it off in a hurry. I guess if you have a cordless drill with a nut driver handy you could remove it fast. But I also don't like the idea of a weight tied to a thin metal strip: a slip up could shave a chunk of penis.

But that aside, I think a circular clamp is a bad idea as it cuts off everything all the way around. I believe you're better off using something which leaves the dorsal and urinal areas alone. Perhaps two slightly curved pieces of wood which are clamped (perpendicular) together using bolts (parallel) ? (Each with respect to the floor)

I've seen some of these designs from time to time.
 
MoreGains123;455873 said:
I don't know about using pipe clamps. I don't like the idea of not being able to take it off in a hurry. I guess if you have a cordless drill with a nut driver handy you could remove it fast. But I also don't like the idea of a weight tied to a thin metal strip: a slip up could shave a chunk of penis.

But that aside, I think a circular clamp is a bad idea as it cuts off everything all the way around. I believe you're better off using something which leaves the dorsal and urinal areas alone. Perhaps two slightly curved pieces of wood which are clamped (perpendicular) together using bolts (parallel) ? (Each with respect to the floor)

I've seen some of these designs from time to time.
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Well i don't have the change for a bib hanger and it's actually really comfortable while it holds. i thought it was gonna pinch and feel like shit but i like it better than manual stretches, that's for sure. plus, kingsnake used it without any problems and gained. what hanger do you use?
 
dmoney101;455894 said:
Well i don't have the change for a bib hanger and it's actually really comfortable while it holds. i thought it was gonna pinch and feel like shit but i like it better than manual stretches, that's for sure. plus, kingsnake used it without any problems and gained. what hanger do you use?
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I use a Bib Hardcore and an SS heavy duty as a tag-team.

But don't get me wrong: I'm not saying don't use the gear you have, I was just expressing some concerns. You've probably already considered these, so ignore my comments.
 
MoreGains123;455954 said:
I use a Bib Hardcore and an SS heavy duty as a tag-team.

But don't get me wrong: I'm not saying don't use the gear you have, I was just expressing some concerns. You've probably already considered these, so ignore my comments.
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i see your points, but if worse comes to worse, i can just pick the weights up and be fine...assuming i could ever get the hanger to hold
 
MoreGains123;456105 said:
Try the wrapping as I detailed it and let me know. I spent a lot of time over the years and can probably help you.
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You are very patient and helpful!
 
MoreGains123;456105 said:
Try the wrapping as I detailed it and let me know. I spent a lot of time over the years and can probably help you.
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word, next time i go to walmart i'll look for some exercise bands. is it important at all that they're theraband? or would another brand be ok?
 
dmoney101;456149 said:
word, next time i go to walmart i'll look for some exercise bands. is it important at all that they're theraband? or would another brand be ok?
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They are all pretty much the same. Sometimes they sell it by the foot!
 
dmoney101;456503 said:
ok, as long as they're not made from some specific material that's better than everything else
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They are all made from either latex or rubber, predominately latex.
 
doublelongdaddy;456643 said:
They are all made from either latex or rubber, predominately latex.
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i found some at walmart that were Gold's Gym brand (the only ones they carry) and they're made out of elastic. They were so slick the hanger fell off as soon as i pulled a little bit just using my hand
 
dmoney101;457416 said:
i found some at walmart that were Gold's Gym brand (the only ones they carry) and they're made out of elastic. They were so slick the hanger fell off as soon as i pulled a little bit just using my hand
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Not sure exactly what those are. When I wash my Theraband with Fast Orange it's pretty sticky for a while afterward.

But keep in mind you want the hanger grabbing the internals (as Bib used to say it) and not just clinging to the skin. Another way to put it is that the wrap is just for the sake of skin comfort. That's the reason for using as little wrap as you can. The hanger grabs on and bunches the internals forming a dam. (That's also why I thought a pipe clamp could cut into you.)
 
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MoreGains123;457561 said:
Not sure exactly what those are. When I wash my Theraband with Fast Orange it's pretty sticky for a while afterward.

But keep in mind you want the hanger grabbing the internals (as Bib used to say it) and not just clinging to the skin. Another way to put it is that the wrap is just for the sake of skin comfort. That's the reason for using as little wrap as you can. The hanger grabs on and bunches the internals forming a dam. (That's also why I thought a pipe clamp could cut into you.)
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yea i know what you mean. i can feel the inside of my dick stretching, but then the wrap always gives and slips off. i've tried using strictly [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap and even that won't stick
 
I don't think [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] wrap is a very good idea. It has texture which can dig in and chafe skin. That's why the t-band is so good.

Are you using a traditional round clamp which is a band about 3/8" wide or are you using a much wider pipe clamp? Specifically how much surface area of the clamp contacts your penis? (Diameter and length)
 
MoreGains123;457663 said:
I don't think [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] wrap is a very good idea. It has texture which can dig in and chafe skin. That's why the t-band is so good.

Are you using a traditional round clamp which is a band about 3/8" wide or are you using a much wider pipe clamp? Specifically how much surface area of the clamp contacts your penis? (Diameter and length)
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it's 2" so i got a feeling it's too big, but that's what kingsnake recommended. the clamp is 3" long so it grabs on to the majority of my flaccid penis
 
I don't understand the measurements. Are you saying the clamp is axially 3 inches in length and 2 inches in diameter? (I'm assuming the diameter is adjustable since it's a clamp.)

If the clamp is 3 inches long I think you're not achieving the purpose of a clamp-based hanger. Because the penis is soft the length of the clamp is not useful up to a certain point (probably 1-1/2 inches). Once the clamp tightens there will be tissue in front of the clamp which is the only tissue you'll actually be applying the undesirable portion of the weight to. The entire penis will of course be subjected to the desirable portion of the application of weight.

However, since the leading edge of the clamp is a sharp edge the brunt of the force will be experienced at that edge. This will probably end up being too large a force over too small an area. It will likely become a point where hemosederin and other bruise-related issues will occur. It would be unreasonable to expect such a small area of tissue to be able to adapt to higher and higher weight.

For example, the Bib has toe-in and toe-out adjustability which allows this edge to be more graceful. This provides a much greater surface area at the "leading edge", in fact it really becomes a "leading area". In other words the Bib can create a funnel effect at the leading edge allowing a larger mass of tissue to experience the brunt force. A larger mass of tissue can also adapt more easily since the trauma is milder overall with the load being spread out.

I can see how the t-band would just slide off at some point. Since the clamp is concentric only a very high amount of radial force would keep it applied. However this exacerbates the leading edge issue. It's a downward spiral of returns. The tighter you clamp it, the worse the effect on the leading edge. Loosening it allows it to slide. The "sweet spot" would be a very accurate combination of tightening the clamp versus the amount of weight. I would find that to be entirely too much trouble.

This doesn't mean you need to buy a Bib, but I think you should consider the design.

For example, if you could tighten the clamp to form a conical shape you could achieve the same effect as the Bib. You might even consider using a staged clamp which allows for different tightness along the course of the clamp. The loosest end would be the leading edge and the tightest end would be toward your pelvis. With this shape you'll find the clamp will not slip: it would be impossible (unless the weight was so great it tore off your penis).
 
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MoreGains123;457758 said:
I don't understand the measurements. Are you saying the clamp is axially 3 inches in length and 2 inches in diameter? (I'm assuming the diameter is adjustable since it's a clamp.)

If the clamp is 3 inches long I think you're not achieving the purpose of a clamp-based hanger. Because the penis is soft the length of the clamp is not useful up to a certain point (probably 1-1/2 inches). Once the clamp tightens there will be tissue in front of the clamp which is the only tissue you'll actually be applying the undesirable portion of the weight to. The entire penis will of course be subjected to the desirable portion of the application of weight.

However, since the leading edge of the clamp is a sharp edge the brunt of the force will be experienced at that edge. This will probably end up being too large a force over too small an area. It will likely become a point where hemosederin and other bruise-related issues will occur. It would be unreasonable to expect such a small area of tissue to be able to adapt to higher and higher weight.

For example, the Bib has toe-in and toe-out adjustability which allows this edge to be more graceful. This provides a much greater surface area at the "leading edge", in fact it really becomes a "leading area". In other words the Bib can create a funnel effect at the leading edge allowing a larger mass of tissue to experience the brunt force. A larger mass of tissue can also adapt more easily since the trauma is milder overall with the load being spread out.

I can see how the t-band would just slide off at some point. Since the clamp is concentric only a very high amount of radial force would keep it applied. However this exacerbates the leading edge issue. It's a downward spiral of returns. The tighter you clamp it, the worse the effect on the leading edge. Loosening it allows it to slide. The "sweet spot" would be a very accurate combination of tightening the clamp versus the amount of weight. I would find that to be entirely too much trouble.

This doesn't mean you need to buy a Bib, but I think you should consider the design.

For example, if you could tighten the clamp to form a conical shape you could achieve the same effect as the Bib. You might even consider using a staged clamp which allows for different tightness along the course of the clamp. The loosest end would be the leading edge and the tightest end would be toward your pelvis. With this shape you'll find the clamp will not slip: it would be impossible (unless the weight was so great it tore off your penis).
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i just went with what kingsnake said lol. other people seem to have gotten it to work in his thread. how much do bib hangers cost?
 
dmoney101;457799 said:
i just went with what kingsnake said lol. other people seem to have gotten it to work in his thread. how much do bib hangers cost?
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A Bib Hanger costs more than the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] but with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] you can do much more than hang.
 
dmoney101;457799 said:
i just went with what kingsnake said lol. other people seem to have gotten it to work in his thread. how much do bib hangers cost?
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I think they run between $75 and $150 depending on which one you choose. I use the Hard Core.

However, since you're DIY inclined I think if you just produced the conical shape you'd be set. Sounds like Kingsnake was able to dial in the "sweet spot". But since you're getting slippage I think you need to alter the design to create the funnel. I don't think you need more than 1/8 to 1/4 inch difference between one end and the other. (The wider end goes toward the glans.) You need to squeeze out the blood in your glans while tightening the clamp and connecting and applying the weight.
 
MoreGains123;457942 said:
I think they run between $75 and $150 depending on which one you choose. I use the Hard Core.

However, since you're DIY inclined I think if you just produced the conical shape you'd be set. Sounds like Kingsnake was able to dial in the "sweet spot". But since you're getting slippage I think you need to alter the design to create the funnel. I don't think you need more than 1/8 to 1/4 inch difference between one end and the other. (The wider end goes toward the glans.) You need to squeeze out the blood in your glans while tightening the clamp and connecting and applying the weight.
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any idea what i could use to get it to work?
 
MoreGains123;458115 said:
I don't see how you could make that clamp create a funnel shape. Perhaps the leading edge can be bent out slightly with pliers or a vice?
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yea, i definitely don't see that happening lol
 
MoreGains123;458123 said:
Maybe you could get a shorter clamp which could be flared with pliers?
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i haven't seen any shorter than 3" before. is there a specific wrapping technique i could use to get the same effect?
 
dmoney101;458245 said:
i haven't seen any shorter than 3" before. is there a specific wrapping technique i could use to get the same effect?
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I don't see how since the wrap will deform eventually. You could try wrapping a "funnel" by adding turns as you get toward the back. But I doubt this would make a difference since the clamp is rigid. I'm not sure why you can't just turn up the leading edge of this clamp. Seems that a decent vice and pliers should be able to do the job. You could attach the clamp to a piece of metal pipe and let the leading edge (1/2" or so) hang off the end of the pipe. Then use pliers or a mallet or similar to slightly bend the leading edge outward all the way around.
 
MoreGains123;458318 said:
I don't see how since the wrap will deform eventually. You could try wrapping a "funnel" by adding turns as you get toward the back. But I doubt this would make a difference since the clamp is rigid. I'm not sure why you can't just turn up the leading edge of this clamp. Seems that a decent vice and pliers should be able to do the job. You could attach the clamp to a piece of metal pipe and let the leading edge (1/2" or so) hang off the end of the pipe. Then use pliers or a mallet or similar to slightly bend the leading edge outward all the way around.
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i could try, but it seems pretty solid. i'll give it a shot tomorrow
 
You could also look into the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words], it's hanger is very good and distributes weight very evenly. Plus you can do a ton of other exercises.
 
dmoney101;458725 said:
yea...i tried the pliers and it just ruined the clamp
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Have you tried the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words]? The Bundle chamber is great with hanging. You could even make your own if you are handy with tools.
 
doublelongdaddy;458731 said:
Have you tried the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words]? The Bundle chamber is great with hanging. You could even make your own if you are handy with tools.
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how much does it cost?
 
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