kausion_420 said:
When you think about it in that sense it is safe to say GOD is nor good nor bad. We are free to make our own choices, GOD does not mess with ones free will.

In a biblical sense it would be safe to say Jesus is good and Lucifer is bad. Some worship Jesus, others worship Lucifer. Those with greater power worship one of these two idols as it becomes more aparrent as years pass by.

Bush is the better man for the job to get the main goals accross.


Well said, but understated. Jesus is the savior and Satan is the fallen angel. God is perfect, and pure. Meaning He is more than simply Good, but infallible and beautiful. Bush is indeed the best to get the job done, and the people spoke loud and clear on who the chose to be in office. For months I sat by and watched the election antics go on and the media simply put emphasis on Kerry as president and the evil's of the Bush administration. Ultimately I do not believe people are as naive as to simply follow what some media organization has said, and if they do follow and do not seek for themselves then they are sheep who are to be led to the slaughter.
 
hopful said:
Oh and for all the People who belive Bush has been selected by God. Do you realy belive that God would choose a person who has started 2 wars for selfish reasons? Do you realy belive that god stands by a person because of who thousands of people have died, then go sit in the corner and read the bible.

Uh...two wars?
 
RazedNegative said:
Congrats to you Bush supporters out there, you deserve it. Bush not only won the electoral votes, but the popular vote as well. No question about it.

I personally am saddened and disappointed in the outcome, but I also wasnt too overly optimistic. I really thought we were ready for a change tho.

But hey, lets move on eh?

Nice post. I know, from what I've read, that you, like many other fellow Pittsburghers, were hoping for a Kerry victory. However, your kind words say much about you. Kerry was also very good in his concession earlier today. I'm glad this didn't drag out like last time.
 
penguinsfan said:
Uh...two wars?

I think he was referring to the war in Afghanistan and the war in Iraq. The first one was justified IMO, but the second one was (and will be since there seems to be no end to it) bullshit for the lack of a better word to describe it.
 
i think someone else used this quote somewhere here, and i think it applies in this thread.

"how convenient for the leaders that the masses do not think" - Adolf Hitler.

i'd like to point out that i in no way support Hitler.
 
Shafty said:
I think he was referring to the war in Afghanistan and the war in Iraq. The first one was justified IMO, but the second one was (and will be since there seems to be no end to it) bullshit for the lack of a better word to describe it.
My brother-in-law has been over there for quite some time he said "The crap you hear on TV is not whats going on over there at all. Most of Iraqian's are gratful we showed up and got rid of a mad man." btw If Bush senior would have finished what he started we wouldn't be there now. :s
 
I think it is wonderful that the extreme efforts of hollywood, the establisHydromaxent media, foreign governments, and even the UN have failed, and the American people have returned the correct man for the times. Never before in US history has a sitting leader been hit from so many different angles, and survived.

PT Barnum was right, you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.

Over the last 18 months, I have never heard so many lies. Long live GWB.

Bigger
 
Bib said:
Over the last 18 months, I have never heard so many lies. Long live GWB.
Agreed. I think that the complete slander campaign that the liberals tried to run is ultimately one of the main reasons they were not able to win the election, endorsing looney tunes such as Michael Moore and attempting to portray GWB as the next Adolf Hitler which simply isn't true, whether you like the guy or not.
 
I think it is wonderful that the extreme efforts of hollywood, the establisHydromaxent media, foreign governments, and even the UN have failed, and the American people have returned the correct man for the times. Never before in US history has a sitting leader been hit from so many different angles, and survived.

I think that the complete slander campaign that the liberals tried to run is ultimately one of the main reasons they were not able to win the election

I totally agree.
 
Enough said? So we should think the same as the majority of the world? Mark Twain said "If ever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it's time to change." Who cares what the majority of the people, especially outside of America, thinks? Does that make them right?
 
Not at all. It matters what the Penis EnlargementOPLE of AMERICA say, and they said President Bush. So lets all get over it (yes im talking to the people who are complaining/moaning), and all work together to make America the best we can.

And yes, I voted for Kerry, but thats not important anymore.
 
You want to say that Kerry was the right choice for President, I'm willing to bet that 90% of the people did not realize that this was true.....

Guess who is endorsing John Kerry?
> >
> >The Communist Part of the United States of America
> - "CPUSA" -
> >is publicly supporting the election of John Kerry.
> >
> >No, this is not a typo...you read it correctly. The
> CPUSA has made
> >
> >available on its Web site, "http://www.cpusa.org/",
> an advertisement
> >
> >entitled Top Ten Reasons to Defeat Bush. This
> advertisement can be
> >
> >downloaded. The communist party urges readers to
> place this ad in local
> >
> >newspapers throughout the country to defeat
> President Bush.
> >
> >Remarkably, the "Top Ten Reasons" of the Communist
> party are identical to
> >
> >those of the Democratic party; out-sourcing,
> homosexual rights, abortion
> >
> >and so on.
> >
> >At first, it was thought this is only a
> coincidence.The Democratic party of
> >the
> >
> >United States couldn't be in lock step with the
> Marxists!
> >
> >So, the originator of this email wrote to a
> spokesman of the CPUSA in
> >Georgia.
> >
> >
> >
> >Following is part of the spokesman's letter:
> >
> >"The CPUSA supports the John Kerry campaign with
> donations and volunteer
> > effort. We believe that defeating George Bush is
> the single most
> >important
> > issue this November"
> >
> >**Next, it was noted that one of Kerry's campaign
> themes is "Let America
> >
> > be America Again." This slogan was borrowed
> from a Communist poet,
> >
> > Langston Hughes.
> >
> >This is not common knowledge to the average
> American. "Let America be
> >America Again" sounds good, but in actuality is a
> rambling, gloomy poem.
> >
> >Note: Another poem by Langston goes as follows;
> >
> > "Goodbye, Christ Jesus, Lord, God, Jehovah. Beat
> it on away from here
> >now.
> >
> > Make way for a new guy with no religion at all
> -- a real guy named Marx,
> >
> > communist, Lenin, Peasant, Stalin, Worker, ME --
> yes, I said ME!"
> >
> >If this doesn't convince you that the Democratic
> party 'has lost it'.....
> >
> >there is a third discovery........!
> >
> >**A Vietnam vet group took a trip to Communist
> Hanoi to investigate a
> >report
> >
> >that John Kerry is 'honored' in the "Hanoi Hall of
> Fame!" Yes, there is a
> >museum
> >
> >in Hanoi with a section dedicated to foreign
> activists who help defeat the
> >United States Military in Vietnam. Of course, you
> would expect to see Jane
> >Fonda's picture there. Alas, there too is John
> Kerry's picture, shaking the
> >hand of a communist official.
> >
> >Does the word Traitor ring a bell? This was truly a
> slap in the face to
> >America
> >
> >......from one of it's own military!
> >
> >Has the Democratic party been taken over by the
> far, far left?
> >
> >It's not only the communists who are appalled that
> George Bush is married
> >
> >to a woman!
> >
> >They are enraged that President Bush wants a
> constitutional amendment to
> >protect traditional marriage between a man and
> woman.
> >
> >Then we have the ACLU running to a federal activist
> judge with every piece
> >
> >of legislation that doesn't fit into their leftist
> agenda. They support
> >every Democratic socialist whim.
> >
> >The removal of the Ten Commandments is their top
> priority!
> >
> > Is this not called SECULARISM..!!
> >
> >Don't just accept this message for the truth --
> visit the CPUSA website at
> >http://www.cpusa.org/ -- read the articles, then
> decide for yourself.
> >
> >So...who will get your vote in this Presidential
> Election?
> >
> >This a matter of concience and integrity.
> >
> >This message needs to be seen. Send it out, if you
> care about America's....
> >
> >and your own....future. ~
>
 
I wouldn't doubt that the communist party was backing him. They would be backing the both of em. The main goal is a world gov't republicans and democrats have very different ways of going about achieving it but they both still have to have the same goal. Once a world gov't is created everything would be communist or worse anyways.
 
So tell me do we want a communist running our country....You may not think it says much, but if some will think back to Clinton's administration one of their items on the agenda was to actually change over to the Euro....not talked about very much, but was going to come up to the senate shortly before the Lewinski scandal, and was dropped from the agenda because of it. The democrats and the CPUSA have the same core beliefs and have their minds set on ultimately creating a huge central government and slowly but surely moving to a communist state. My roommate sent me this e-mail and that's the reason why no one should have voted for Kerry. By the way for anyone interested there is a new book called Michael Moore is a Big Fat Stupid White Man, it's very interesting and insightful to his ploys and his misuse of information. He hates rich white america, HE IS RICH WHITE AMERICA, wake up america. Good grief, you can't hate yourself and love yourself at the sametime, so where does his interest lie, certinly not in the truth, but in self preservation. The media is all made up of lies.
 
I definitely see your point Kausion, but you have to look at the way the Republicans are attempting to shrink government, yes the patriot act is dangerous, but they are working to remove gov't involvement in our everyday lives.

It's not simply the fact they backed him, but their beliefs are exactly the same as the democratic party across the board. Does that make sense???
 
From the side I am taking due to lots of reading and such. I come to the conclusion that It starts as one group and breaks into democrat and republican. They both have the same ultimate goal. No President can even begin to run without becoming a member to the new age of order. So since they are all members they must have the same goals. Of course different people will have different ways of acheiving these goals which is why they are split into two groups. Also having two groups works for the people in many ways.

Whether Democrat, Republican or UN member they all have the same goal. Which ever angle you look at it America is slowly becoming a communist state.
 
really great points millionman. Im greatful for your passion. :-)

Hey kausion, whats up? Do you see that (move to communisim) as some sort of natural rytHydromax within the evolution of society and is it avoidable? Is it bad? It all becomes very complicated doesnt it...
 
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