I've always been a fan of results through effort but lately it seems there is always an easier way to do everything.

I first glimpsed the Penis Enlargement world 3 years ago with some newbie routines of stretching, jelquing, kegels. I got an inch of length from 6.5'' to 7.5'' within 4 months and I was amazed. Stopped right there, cemented my gains for a few weeks and they are still with me. A few days back I realized that those 4-5 months was the best thing I've done for myself and my self-esteem so I decided to come back for more.

But the moment I entered the forums I knew something was changed in the scene. The only actual self working devices I came across 3 years back were the weight hanging ones. Now I'm seeing awesome reviews and success stories about the FastSize and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. No offense to anyone but 3 years ago almost all devices were regarded as rubbish.

So am I missing something? By spending $250 and doing 20 mins [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], wearing FastSize when I sleep/work and maybe 200 jelqs as DLD suggests I can get permanents gains at about the same rate as doing manual? Cause I was fully prepared to go manual again but I got no issue with spending some money and saving 1hours+ daily (my routine was ofter 1h30mins long). Is there a catch to it? The fastsize site "guarantees" 2.75'' in a year and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] one around 1.5'' of girth! This can't be right, sounds too good :S
 
In all honesty, I've found penis enlargement to be like anything else in life: If you want it done right, do it yourself. I tried a TON of these products (granted, this was almost a year ago now) and had little success. However, when I dedicated myself to strictly following a manual exercise routine I was able to secure some fantastic gains in about 2 months time. I can't personally attest to the viability of Fastsize or [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], but if I ever feel the need to start up again I think I'll stick to the tried and true :P
 
Thank you! Exactly my point! Why is everyone so excited and if they work why isn't EVERYONE using them instead of doing hard ass manual work!
 
Devices should only be used to supplement manual exercise. Unless it is a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Length Master[/words], [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power Assist[/words] or hanging, it is supplementary. I know some have great success using the FastSize for length gains but when it is used with manual work it is so much more effective.
 
The claims are always exaggerated. Only time will tell if the potential for such claims exists (meaning someone somewhere has achieved it). Products have gotten better with research and time. There is a shift right now in penis enlargement coming out of hiding and being mainstream. It's probably hitting it's peak but I can attest to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] being much more comfortable than the old pumps. But all of my gains came from jelqing, clamping, manual stretching and hanging. Some people claim to have gained simply by using the fastsize.

Sometimes people need a feeling of something new and fresh to help stay focused. When bluewhale explained his mandigo stretches or whatever they're called I got excited and stuck to a solid 3 month routine day in and out...even kept a log of my time. Gained and cemented 1/4 inch length. Six months away and tired of having to devote so much time I've invested in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and am ready to hit it again for at least 3 months. I do realize that the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] alone is not the best use of my time so I will be doing my manual work with it but a lot of newbies don't. A lot of em give up. It's all about the right kind of expectations and motivation.
 
seekngirth;373430 said:
I thought this post had to do with how to get gains with hardly any Penis Enlargement at all :D

In that case

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