Hello brothers! I was working hard to develop an highly intense routine and just noticed something which I never thought of. I noticed that when I use phallogenetics for prolonged period of time, my tunica becomes loose but my ligs don't feel worked out thoroughly. I was using my pf without the spring system and the comfort ring just by tying it to my knee. After prolonged use I just feel my ligs are worked out thoroughly but my tunica doesn't feel the same) I know in [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words], an opposite force works which is known as negative tension unlike hanging or tying the penis to the knee for prolonged period. Now the question is, does [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] and extension work differently? Any one experienced the same thing? I am now using the both kinds of force regularly
 
The springs make it so the tunica is like a shock absorber contracting, and extending. This flux stimulates deformation, and mitosis. No i'm just playing idk.
 
You essentially answered it. [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Traction[/words] is to hold it in place and deform to its new state, not letting it retract and revert to its previous size, thus losing some of what you gained. Extending is deforming and elongation. You're letting it stay extended and forming to its new size while also taking the opportunity of healing while it's extending. Hitting 2 birds with one stone. It just depends on how you feel and how much your body wants to heal before progressing to its next length or girth. To much and you'll lose, to little and you'll lose. You just have to find the happy medium. There could be a small scar that while in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] could turn into a large scar. We're essentially stretching, tearing and repairing. Your body can and will stop any one process if threatened. If your doing things like hanging and then hard pulls then put the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] on for a while than replace with a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] wrap, I like the sound of it. If your doing light stretches than wear it for most of the day than that's ok. Don't do to much hoping it'll work but your body could say no. Then again, you'll never know until you try. Just don't want anyone to lose or hurt their penis in anyway. Hope you got what I'm saying lol.
 
templnite;662855 said:
The springs make it so the tunica is like a shock absorber contracting, and extending. This flux stimulates deformation, and mitosis. No i'm just playing idk.

It definitely makes sense. But the question is does [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] force work more on the tunica than the ligs? And does extension work more on the ligs than the tunica?
 
Have you tried tying to the knee with the springs? Maybe the angle combined with the flux will give both tunica, and ligament fatigue.
 
That's a good idea as well. Tied to the knee when walking allows it to stretch and relax each step. Just depends on preference. I believe being in an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] does more for ligs but also includes stressing the sheath of tunica. The sleeve only holds your Penis from retracting. It does not pull it or stretch it but merely holds it in an extended state for healing. When I take my sleeve off, my penis immediately fattens up, like it spent all day trying to push it's way out of the sleeve and finally breaks loose. When it was in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] and I removed it, my penis just had a longer flaccid without fattening up. Simply put, a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] sleeve just holds it and stops it from retracting. You elongated the ligs and stretched the tunica with your workout beforehand, then held it in that state with the sleeve. The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] continues the elongation process that the sleeve cannot do. Even healing it in that state.
 
DreamDick;662883 said:
It definitely makes sense. But the question is does [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] force work more on the tunica than the ligs? And does extension work more on the ligs than the tunica?

Those are the only places you will see gains using [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] (SizeGenetics, [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words], etc.). The only other form of stretching would be Expressive which can not really be done with those devices.
 
templnite;662884 said:
Have you tried tying to the knee with the springs? Maybe the angle combined with the flux will give both tunica, and ligament fatigue.

Tried everything, but when ever the negative force is there, I feel more stress on the tunica than the ligs) and that's why now I am using phallogenetics for 4 hours and and pf without the spring and the comfort ring for 4 hours
 
Ok brahs. Just to clarify because I'm ignorant as to what negative force is aside from vacuum; you are foregoing the springs every time you get more tunica stress yea?.
 
DreamDick;663018 said:
Tried everything, but when ever the negative force is there, I feel more stress on the tunica than the ligs) and that's why now I am using phallogenetics for 4 hours and and pf without the spring and the comfort ring for 4 hours

That is some good time invested!
 
Would [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] devices like [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] benefit more increase in BPEL size? since it is holding the penis in a more lengthened state doesn't that make the penis more prone to being extended more and so doing a length session after the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] device would create more significant gains?
 
templnite;663028 said:
Ok brahs. Just to clarify because I'm ignorant as to what negative force is aside from vacuum; you are foregoing the springs every time you get more tunica stress yea?.

Negative force in a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] refers to the force which 'holds' the penis in extended position. In the case of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words], the rim exerts it and in the case of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words], the base exerts it as well as the springs get involved in the process. It's like stretching the penis towards opposite direction using a grip at the base and another one behind the glans. But if you do a normal stretch using a single grip behind the glans,that's a simple positive stretch. you got it,right?
 
Didn't You notice that when you use [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] at high tension, how the base digs deep into the pubic area. That's coz of the negative tension. But in hanging, there is no force working to hold your dick in position, it hangs freely, and that's a simple positive stretch. I hope that you understand brah)
 
Simyan;663167 said:
It improves all length!

True. When the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] is worn at full intensity you are making active gains, meaning you are creating more length. When you wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] at medium to light state you are making passive gains meaning healing in a state of elongation. Both are important in a total routine using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words]. Check out [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] to find out more about the best [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] usage.
 
I just felt that negative tension works better for tunica, and positive tension works better for ligs. But both are equally important to maximize gains and that's why I am using both kinds of force
 
Oh ok so the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] base sort of diffuses the force equally around your circumference; while hanging directs it mainly to one point (such as the ligs). I never looked at it that way till now.
 
templnite;663231 said:
Oh ok so the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] base sort of diffuses the force equally around your circumference; while hanging directs it mainly to one point (such as the ligs). I never looked at it that way till now.

Yea...extension(sg) is kind of both way stretch, and elongation(hanging) is kind of one way stretch. [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] requires support of the pubic area to exert the negative force and that's how the springs become pulled in but hanging is totally a different story) I just mimmicked the effect of long period hanging by using the pf without the spring and the comfort ring in such a manner people use [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] like absillicon
 
Now I do 10 mins of bundled a-stretch and then 1hour in phallogenetics and then repeat the process 3 more times) and then I do basic stretch for 10 mins and then 1hour in the pf tied to the knee
And rerepeat the process 3 more times. That's total 8 hours of extension and elongation along with one hour and twenty mins of manual stretching following the principles of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words]) the first four hours for deformation of the tunica and the next four hours for healing the tunica in a elongated position)
 
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DreamDick;663279 said:
Now I do 10 mins of bundled a-stretch and then 1hour in phallogenetics and then repeat the process 3 more times) and then I do basic stretch for 10 mins and then 1hour in the pf tied to the knee
And rerepeat the process 3 more times. That's total 8 hours of extension and elongation along with one hour and twenty mins of manual stretching following the principles of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words]) the first four hours for deformation of the tunica and the next four hours for healing the tunica in a elongated position)

That's insane ! You will gain length big time dude.
 
DreamDick;663553 said:
I just restarted using the pf during sleep last night)))))))) so now it's 4 hours of extension and 12 hours of elongation)))))

Awesome you got through the night. No slippage or adjustments?
 
I've tried sleeping with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] but I always wake up an hour or so into sleep, before deep sleep starts. Almost automatically,I take it off, without any logical reason. I guess I feel uncomfortable sleeping in it. I love using it when I watch TV or play ps4 or even just browse the net.
 
Simyan;663673 said:
I've tried sleeping with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] but I always wake up an hour or so into sleep, before deep sleep starts. Almost automatically,I take it off, without any logical reason. I guess I feel uncomfortable sleeping in it. I love using it when I watch TV or play ps4 or even just browse the net.

Bad idea to sleep with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words].It cuts down your blood flow,you don't wanna wake up with a purple dick don't you?:)
 
Simyan;663687 said:
I use the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] attachment so it doesn't really cut the blood flow as such!

Oh that's good !
 
Simyan;663691 said:
Even so it's not comfortable enough to sleep in, unless it is very light.

I never suggested this for overnight use so it is good to have some feedback. You are saying it is comfortable at high tension but not at low when sleeping?
 
Simyan;663673 said:
I've tried sleeping with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] but I always wake up an hour or so into sleep, before deep sleep starts. Almost automatically,I take it off, without any logical reason. I guess I feel uncomfortable sleeping in it. I love using it when I watch TV or play ps4 or even just browse the net.

If I get an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] of some sort I'll definitely wear it while playing :P
 
doublelongdaddy;663717 said:
I never suggested this for overnight use so it is good to have some feedback. You are saying it is comfortable at high tension but not at low when sleeping?

What I'm saying is at a good decent solid stretch, I will wake up after an hour or two. When you sleep you want to be comfortable and I strangely will wake up after an hour or two and automatically remove it. I've done that when I told myself before I wanted to sleep with it. It's like a reflex.

On a lighter stretch, I suppose I would sleep all night long as It wouldn't feel so disturbing.
 
PE during the day should be more than enough to make big gains....personally i would let my dick relax at night,no PE at all...If i would do PE 24/7 i would go crazy :)
 
doublelongdaddy;663590 said:
Awesome you got through the night. No slippage or adjustments?

Hello bro. I use the medium sized sleeves and large bell and since I have been doing this, so far no slippage occurred) it's so comfortable and I don't wake up coz of this)
 
DreamDick;663852 said:
Hello bro. I use the medium sized sleeves and large bell and since I have been doing this, so far no slippage occurred) it's so comfortable and I don't wake up coz of this)

Awesome! You are one of the few who have accomplished this awesome all night stretching. To me this is a massive thing, it allows for hours of stretch with absolutely no effort, sleeping and gaining, what a great concept. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] rocks!
 
kyomoto;663788 said:
If I get an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] of some sort I'll definitely wear it while playing :P

What you play brah? You better say fps
 
templnite;663962 said:
What you play brah? You better say fps

Right now I'm playing an online fighting game called Rumble Fighter. On my xbox 360 I'm playing Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
I would play FPS but ehh i don't have time for games really.
 
I think I will try to sleep with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] but more so to keep my dick straight and remove my curve as opposed to trying to stretch the fuck out of it! Nice healing session whilst I sleep!
 
Simyan;664003 said:
I think I will try to sleep with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] but more so to keep my dick straight and remove my curve as opposed to trying to stretch the fuck out of it! Nice healing session whilst I sleep!

Sounds like a more productive use for night time.
 
kyomoto;663989 said:
Right now I'm playing an online fighting game called Rumble Fighter. On my xbox 360 I'm playing Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
I would play FPS but ehh i don't have time for games really.

I used to like games with good storyline, but then I got into call of duty death matches. Nothing was as good from that point on, but i don't have time to play anymore either
 
Final Fantasy for life lol. But yeah, I haven't had time to play anything at all. I played Destiny for a while but my schedule seems to be to full lately. Maybe I'll get time but who knows when. Erik be getting my PF soon though.
 
doublelongdaddy;664362 said:
Did your dick have a drug problem? :)

no he curves to the left. Turkey neck is worse than I realised. I know that with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] my curve will straighten and I can take care of the Turkey neck from doing scrotum stretches. Did a lot today and realised my skin at my turkey neck is slightly tearing - a good sign as it will loosen up and work its way down my shaft. On the plus, I realised I'm a lot longer than my turkey neck would have me believe!
 
runningignus;664346 said:
Final Fantasy for life lol. But yeah, I haven't had time to play anything at all. I played Destiny for a while but my schedule seems to be to full lately. Maybe I'll get time but who knows when. Erik be getting my PF soon though.

PF? Erik? Hwaaaaaaaaat? I've never played a single final fantasy :L and good on the curve speculation of your penis simyan.
 
Simyan;664410 said:
no he curves to the left. Turkey neck is worse than I realised. I know that with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] my curve will straighten and I can take care of the Turkey neck from doing scrotum stretches. Did a lot today and realised my skin at my turkey neck is slightly tearing - a good sign as it will loosen up and work its way down my shaft. On the plus, I realised I'm a lot longer than my turkey neck would have me believe!

My joke fell on deaf ears :)
 
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