This is a little long so here's a summary - we're still sleeping in the same bed lol.

I wasn't sure if there's a better sub-forum for this. I think it belongs here but if not please move it.


There was no way to hide signing for the delivery of a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words]. She's heard me say before that I wish I was bigger (and had my foreskin) and she always says there's no need. She has never complained about my size. Well need and want are 2 different things.

I reminded her that I'm getting older (almost 40) and told her I've been doing some things to try to get back to the erections of my teenage self. She just kind of looked at me funny and I informed her how my penis ALWAYS used to look up at me with every erection and I miss that.

The conversation basically ended, or so I thought, with me saying that if the pump or anything else makes me bigger then that's great. I'm merely trying to keep everything working properly.

I'm partially in the doghouse though. I wasn't able to give the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] a try until hours later (and only for a few minutes). When I did she got irritated saying it was just a toy to jerk off with and I had to inform her that this feels NOTHING like rubbing one out, it's hard intense suction and it will have zero negative effect on my sexual performance.

I did get a chance to wear it for about 15 minutes in the shower last night. I didn't tell her about it. Unfortunately we didn't go to bed until well over 30 minutes after my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] session was over (I think it was 45 minutes). By that time the massive flaccid size I was toting around was starting to go away. I'm not sure how much of it was still remaining by the time we had sex. I think there was still some extra girth but not a noticeable amount.

She hasn't seen my whole stretching routine yet and since the kids are here this weekend she won't. Within the next week she's going to end up seeing me do all of it while she shakes her head at me and calls me an idiot half seriously half joking.

I've still got some work to do on her to get her fully okay with this. I didn't want to hide it from her in the first place but I was always planning on telling her. It just happened sooner than I wanted. Maybe I'll get lucky and she'll start fully supporting me on this and even help with measurements and edging. Time will tell.

But I'm still in the doghouse. Need to scrounge up some money somehow and get her flowers or something in the next few days.
 
Man my wife has known since day one and honestly i don't understand women getting upset about this. My wife is super supportive and laid back and when I told her she first did the same as all, she was like there's no need etc. once I emaplied I knew that but it was something I wanted and was to enhance sex for both of us she just said well I understand everyone has shit they want to change and it's no different then a woman wanting a boob job except you can do it without surgery. I've made moderate gains in my 6 months of pe and she can tell as can I. I would say kinda explain it in that way and see how things go but I really don't why so many guys have issues with this or should I say their women have the issues. Either way glad it's out in the open hopefully she can be supportive and no be mad or anything about it.
 
Ok, so I'm going to chime in with the way I usually answer this type of post. First, it's YOUR penis. She married you and your body. Yea, big deal, you "kept this from her". You probably could have told her about it from day one, but a guys' naturally skeptical nature has us try things first before we tell someone we are doing something new just in case it does not work. It's usually a guy ego thing, to save face.

She has a body she second guesses too, if she's a normal woman. If she wanted a face lift, tummy tuck, new breasts, whatever....you'd likely support it as her sweet, loving husband, correct? She has no right therefor to give you any grief, or criticism over trying something that will potentially make you happier with your body. You may need to swallow some pride and reassure her you are doing this 100% for you. It's not to impress anyone else, or because you secretly hope a bigger penis will bestow you with some new self confidence that will have you out on the prowl, or wanting to chase someone new. It's a silly insecurity I see brought up once in a while, but you may want to explore that with her and make sure she's not hiding some insecurity from you.

Ultimately, it is your body and you have a right to do with it what you see fit. Otherwise, you may have some relationship issues that need work. That's the honest truth.
 
smitty2590;726724 said:
Man my wife has known since day one and honestly i don't understand women getting upset about this. My wife is super supportive and laid back and when I told her she first did the same as all, she was like there's no need etc. once I emaplied I knew that but it was something I wanted and was to enhance sex for both of us she just said well I understand everyone has shit they want to change and it's no different then a woman wanting a boob job except you can do it without surgery. I've made moderate gains in my 6 months of pe and she can tell as can I. I would say kinda explain it in that way and see how things go but I really don't why so many guys have issues with this or should I say their women have the issues. Either way glad it's out in the open hopefully she can be supportive and no be mad or anything about it.

Women have issues with it because they're women. I think their initial thought is "omg if he's bigger other women are going to want him and try to take him!" yet they forget that your penis is the last thing they see in the lead up to getting in bed with you. Well, in most cases at least.

I'm going to keep working at it and when there's a noticeable difference I know she'll be happy about it.
 
stillwantmore2;726729 said:
Ok, so I'm going to chime in with the way I usually answer this type of post. First, it's YOUR penis. She married you and your body. Yea, big deal, you "kept this from her". You probably could have told her about it from day one, but a guys' naturally skeptical nature has us try things first before we tell someone we are doing something new just in case it does not work. It's usually a guy ego thing, to save face.

She has a body she second guesses too, if she's a normal woman. If she wanted a face lift, tummy tuck, new breasts, whatever....you'd likely support it as her sweet, loving husband, correct? She has no right therefor to give you any grief, or criticism over trying something that will potentially make you happier with your body. You may need to swallow some pride and reassure her you are doing this 100% for you. It's not to impress anyone else, or because you secretly hope a bigger penis will bestow you with some new self confidence that will have you out on the prowl, or wanting to chase someone new. It's a silly insecurity I see brought up once in a while, but you may want to explore that with her and make sure she's not hiding some insecurity from you.

Ultimately, it is your body and you have a right to do with it what you see fit. Otherwise, you may have some relationship issues that need work. That's the honest truth.

Exactly - it's MY body. She wouldn't complain if I was back in the gym 5 days a week. She's in the process of trying to lose weight and the only issue I've had is she isn't doing it in the healthiest of ways.

I'm probably due for some shit from her over it though cause I'm always giving her shit about makeup. I don't like makeup. I think it's lying about your looks. Ever watch some of the videos of self-proclaimed professional make up artists? Some of these women look hideous and 17 layers later they aren't even the same person. The end of the video is usually a link to their site for the "awesome" makeup they used. That's worse than push-up bras and high heels and padded underwear because when you wake up next to it you're going to think you fucked a clown. Yuck.

Anyway, I've told her 1735 times, roughly, that she looks better without it and she really does. I've also told her how lucky she is that she doesn't need makeup to look good whereas some of these women ONLY look good with it. So yeah, I've kinda dug a grave there and now I'm gonna catch some back. She's right, I don't need to be bigger for us to have great sex but it'll still be great if I am bigger.

I'm sure there will be further talks about it, especially when she finally sees my whole stretching routine (we're on opposite shifts so I have most mornings to myself to do it). I know all the right things to say too, I've gone over all them in my head a dozen times, she just has to understand them on her own terms. You're correct though that if there's a huge issue over it then there's bigger problems that need serious work.
 
Pussy would be a better word choice than cat,,,,just saying' :)
 
If you are doing foreskin restoration simultaneously, that has some serious benefits for her in sex, especially as the two of you age and her vagina changes. That could help her to see the advantage of you improving your overall [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis health[/words] and wellbeing. (This could be helpful material for her to read: Circumcise or Not? How Penis Circumcision Affects Sex)

When I started foreskin restoration my wife was skeptical, primarily because she doesn't want me to permanently ruin my penis and therefore our sex life. Remember that you've done a ton of research and reading that she hasn't. It all seems obvious to you, but it might take some time before she's fully on board. Now my wife is cheering me on! I introduced PE to my routine after I had established FR and its advantages, so it was an easier sell. She is still adamant that I not wreck my penis, as she'd like to enjoy it for years, to come.
 
doublelongdaddy;726745 said:
Pussy would be a better word choice than cat,,,,just saying' :)

I hope her pussy doesn't get away! I really like hers a lot.

I need to remind her to start doing kegels again. She's not loose, far from it, and she can squeeze pretty damn good when she wants to. When she's doing them regularly she'll squeeze and release all through sex and the way she does it blows my mind.
 
Bolden;726752 said:
If you are doing foreskin restoration simultaneously, that has some serious benefits for her in sex, especially as the two of you age and her vagina changes. That could help her to see the advantage of you improving your overall [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis health[/words] and wellbeing. (This could be helpful material for her to read: Circumcise or Not? How Penis Circumcision Affects Sex)

When I started foreskin restoration my wife was skeptical, primarily because she doesn't want me to permanently ruin my penis and therefore our sex life. Remember that you've done a ton of research and reading that she hasn't. It all seems obvious to you, but it might take some time before she's fully on board. Now my wife is cheering me on! I introduced PE to my routine after I had established FR and its advantages, so it was an easier sell. She is still adamant that I not wreck my penis, as she'd like to enjoy it for years, to come.

I'd love to do foreskin restoration but I'm going to focus on one thing at a time right now. I have a Price Albert piercing as well and that will probably interfere with restoration so it's a tough call. I love the piercing and don't want to lose it.

She works in nursing homes so she's seen plenty of uncut guys (usually all old men) and swears it's disgusting. After going back and forth on the subject I told her that if I had not been cut she probably wouldn't of known until AFTER we had sex a few times and she saw it. This is simply her, and the general public's, lack of knowledge and education about foreskin and circumcision.

I've looked into "cock socks" that are designed to be worn with lotion and can be worn 24/7. They're simply to restore sensitivity by protecting the glans from rubbing. I'm thinking about getting a few. Maybe I'll put it on my bday list. That should be an easy sell if I explain to her that as I get more sensitive she'll be able to make me squeal like a girl much easier during blow jobs.
 
After 2+ years of PE and aggressive [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] usage, I'm now about 50% 'uncircumcised' and I have to admit it doesn't looks overly odd and I believe there's additional sensitivity (but the latter could also be due to my additional size which creates much more friction).

Glad to hear that your wife was reasonably understanding
 
women can get jealous of PE just like going to the gym. However they always want the end result, but the work that goes into it can be a deal breaker for some women.
All of the biggest penis enlargers we know about online are single or ended up single. that is no coincidence.
 
cladre60;726710 said:
But I'm still in the doghouse. Need to scrounge up some money somehow and get her flowers or something in the next few days.

Literally the worst move to make, in any scenario.

You're not in "the doghouse", you're in your house. Be a fucking man and own it. Get her a huge cock, not flowers.
 
Big Schwanz Acht;726792 said:
After 2+ years of PE and aggressive [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] usage, I'm now about 50% 'uncircumcised' and I have to admit it doesn't looks overly odd and I believe there's additional sensitivity (but the latter could also be due to my additional size which creates much more friction).

Glad to hear that your wife was reasonably understanding

Semi-understanding. This morning she text me a pic of a homeless man's [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sign[/words] that said "Need money for penis enlargement surgery" and said "sorry but I couldn't help it. Made me think of you." I had to laugh. I told her that almost every man on the planet would happily take an extra inch or two of offered.

I do know this though, she won't be laughing and joking if I catch her after the workout I had this morning. Did my usual stretching and then went for the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words]. I wasn't watching how long I had it on and ended up wearing it for almost 40 minutes. No pain or discomfort and holy hell I wish she had been home. I was only planning on 20 minutes so looks like I need to set a timer. Hours later I'm still much fuller than normal. I really hope she's awake when I get home so I can share this ;)
 
acromegaly;726804 said:
women can get jealous of PE just like going to the gym. However they always want the end result, but the work that goes into it can be a deal breaker for some women.
All of the biggest penis enlargers we know about online are single or ended up single. that is no coincidence.

I can see how easily enlargement can become an obsession and ruin a relationship. Everything in moderation.
 
cladre60;726821 said:
...This morning she text me a pic of a homeless man's [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sign[/words] that said "Need money for penis enlargement surgery"

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Get him a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] or a PF so he can use that device 24/7
 
LONGERDICK7+;726837 said:
Get him a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] or a PF so he can use that device 24/7

Can you imagine driving down the road and the guy's [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sign[/words] leaning up against something, his pants are around his ankles, and he's being instructed on how to put on and use a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]?

I'd crash my car from laughing too hard to drive straight.
 
seven_wants_ten;726815 said:
Literally the worst move to make, in any scenario.

You're not in "the doghouse", you're in your house. Be a fucking man and own it. Get her a huge cock, not flowers.

I was half joking about that part. I forget things like my [near constant] sarcasm and joking tone of voice don't always translate when typed. Not your fault.

I do need to get her flowers or a Boyd's Bear or something though and not because of this. It's been a while since I have and women like those things.
 
LONGERDICK7+;726837 said:
Get him a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] or a PF so he can use that device 24/7

I will send Thunder a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words], I mean Bib, or Thunder orrrrrrr are they the same person? I think they are the same person!
 
I decided to do my regular stretches yesterday while she was home. She walked into the room and asked wtf I was doing. After all I was naked in the living room with my dick in my hand pulling down and to the left. I think it was a pretty valid question on her part.

She said I can't make my penis bigger, period. I told her I already have and got a quick questioning look. Then she went back to what she was doing and so did I. It's mine and as long as it isn't going outside of our marriage or having a negative effect on our sex life I'll continue to do what I want.
 
cladre60;727268 said:
I decided to do my regular stretches yesterday while she was home. She walked into the room and asked wtf I was doing. After all I was naked in the living room with my dick in my hand pulling down and to the left. I think it was a pretty valid question on her part.

She said I can't make my penis bigger, period. I told her I already have and got a quick questioning look. Then she went back to what she was doing and so did I. It's mine and as long as it isn't going outside of our marriage or having a negative effect on our sex life I'll continue to do what I want.

penis gets bigger both get happier! If women get mad at men because of PE they dont know nothing about nothing!
 
Next time just tell your wife that it hurts when you urinate and the dr told you to pump regularly to deter the problem.
 
LONGERDICK7+;727273 said:
penis gets bigger both get happier! If women get mad at men because of PE they dont know nothing about nothing!

Exactly.

She doesn't have a lot of "penis experience." She's only been with 2 men and I'm the 2nd one. According to her the other guy was about the same size so she doesn't have any idea how much more can be done with an extra inch or two. Luckily for her I'm willing to gain those inches and show her.
 
Disco Dave;727275 said:
Next time just tell your wife that it hurts when you urinate and the dr told you to pump regularly to deter the problem.

Honey the doctor also told me that I need to edge for at least 30 minutes a day every day. Might as well do it together and enjoy it!
 
cladre60;727278 said:
Honey the doctor also told me that I need to edge for at least 30 minutes a day every day. Might as well do it together and enjoy it!

Yep all those answers are useful..they shouldnt say a word:)
 
LONGERDICK7+;727283 said:
Yep all those answers are useful..they shouldnt say a word:)

I need to find a new doctor, one who can be bribed into convincing my wife of this. She'll say I'm just trying to have sex every day. Well duh! It feels good and makes everyone happy!
 
LONGERDICK7+;727273 said:
penis gets bigger both get happier! If women get mad at men because of PE they dont know nothing about nothing!

It is called Penis Envy
 
I'd recommend keeping this on The DL as much as possible...not outright sneaking, but nothing overt. The brain of a woman is much different than ours so it's virtually useless to try and employ our logic in determining their feelings/reactions/thoughts...plus, all those feelings etc. can literally change from moment to moment.
Take for example a simple glass of wine she shares with a female friend after work (or whatever)...she brings-up the 'oh Clared was in the living room pulling on his d!ck' conversation and it devolves into what a Neanderthal you are and how you're ruining the sofa. I understand this is something to be excited and proud about, but context is everything and while you spend multiple hours each day thinking/doing PE related stuff, your wife just gets the 'end-product' with no 'warm-up'. I'd just be careful.
 
Big Schwanz Acht;727350 said:
I'd recommend keeping this on The DL as much as possible...not outright sneaking, but nothing overt. The brain of a woman is much different than ours so it's virtually useless to try and employ our logic in determining their feelings/reactions/thoughts...plus, all those feelings etc. can literally change from moment to moment.
Take for example a simple glass of wine she shares with a female friend after work (or whatever)...she brings-up the 'oh Clared was in the living room pulling on his d!ck' conversation and it devolves into what a Neanderthal you are and how you're ruining the sofa. I understand this is something to be excited and proud about, but context is everything and while you spend multiple hours each day thinking/doing PE related stuff, your wife just gets the 'end-product' with no 'warm-up'. I'd just be careful.

Yeah I've been keeping it a little quiet except for the other night. I skipped my routine this morning cause she was home and a day off here and there doesn't hurt. Eventually she'll notice the end result and embrace the work I'm doing. Hopefully that day comes sooner rather than later cause it would be a lot of fun to sit in the tub together and watch her play with herself during a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] session. That'd be 10x better than any adult entertainment I could find.

But I know how women can be and how they change in an instant. My ex and I went a few rounds prior to me getting my penis pierced until she finally became okay with the idea. Once I healed up enough for sex she lost her skepticism over it and enjoyed it. Sometimes they aren't okay with things until they begin to see the benefits. Once that happens it was their idea all along lol.
 
Yep they need to enjoy the benefits,thatd allow them to understand that the "weird and strange"stuff we PEers do is a positive and useful activity...:cool:
 
cladre60;727366 said:
Yeah I've been keeping it a little quiet except for the other night. I skipped my routine this morning cause she was home and a day off here and there doesn't hurt. Eventually she'll notice the end result and embrace the work I'm doing. Hopefully that day comes sooner rather than later cause it would be a lot of fun to sit in the tub together and watch her play with herself during a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] session. That'd be 10x better than any adult entertainment I could find.

But I know how women can be and how they change in an instant. My ex and I went a few rounds prior to me getting my penis pierced until she finally became okay with the idea. Once I healed up enough for sex she lost her skepticism over it and enjoyed it. Sometimes they aren't okay with things until they begin to see the benefits. Once that happens it was their idea all along lol.

lol, good plan
 
Big Schwanz Acht;727350 said:
I'd recommend keeping this on The DL as much as possible...not outright sneaking, but nothing overt. The brain of a woman is much different than ours so it's virtually useless to try and employ our logic in determining their feelings/reactions/thoughts...plus, all those feelings etc. can literally change from moment to moment.
Take for example a simple glass of wine she shares with a female friend after work (or whatever)...she brings-up the 'oh Clared was in the living room pulling on his d!ck' conversation and it devolves into what a Neanderthal you are and how you're ruining the sofa. I understand this is something to be excited and proud about, but context is everything and while you spend multiple hours each day thinking/doing PE related stuff, your wife just gets the 'end-product' with no 'warm-up'. I'd just be careful.

Absolutely agree.

You shouldn't "hide" it, and certainly shouldn't apologize for it, but it would be better if your woman didn't know.

Women don't want a man to improve himself, they want a man who doesn't need improvement. There is no such man, but that doesn't matter to women.

Just become the guy with a big dick, not the guy making his dick bigger.
 
Nope, not hiding a thing but not bringing it up unless she does. As the growth occurs she'll notice it eventually during sex and there will probably be another conversation. I think she has the idea in her head that I'm trying to make a 10" long super thick monster that she can't fit in her mouth. Maybe it does need to come up again sooner rather than later so I can visually explain my goals.
 
cladre60;727378 said:
Nope, not hiding a thing but not bringing it up unless she does. As the growth occurs she'll notice it eventually during sex and there will probably be another conversation. I think she has the idea in her head that I'm trying to make a 10" long super thick monster that she can't fit in her mouth. Maybe it does need to come up again sooner rather than later so I can visually explain my goals.
Just write down your goals on a card, or in a book, somewhere she can find it...
 
Threak-X;727402 said:
Just write down your goals on a card, or in a book, somewhere she can find it...

We've got a nosy teenager in the house so he'd probably find it before her, get freaked out, and destroy it. I had to install a combination lock on our bedroom door because of him.

I should take some pictures of his mother and I having sex and put them in places he needs to stay the hell out of. I'm sure the last thing he wants to see is pictures of his mom getting nailed by his step dad. That'll teach him to stay out of our stuff if we forget to put the lock on the door.
 
cladre60;727403 said:
We've got a nosy teenager in the house so he'd probably find it before her, get freaked out, and destroy it. I had to install a combination lock on our bedroom door because of him.

I should take some pictures of his mother and I having sex and put them in places he needs to stay the hell out of. I'm sure the last thing he wants to see is pictures of his mom getting nailed by his step dad. That'll teach him to stay out of our stuff if we forget to put the lock on the door.
Yeah, I know that one... I have a friend with the same issue with her daughter. I setup several WiFi-nanny-cams throughout her house to a website and she could get it on her phone. Caught the nosy culprit (daughter), now, she's very careful about what she does around the house, doesn't dare go in her Mom's room alone anymore and stays in her own room most of the time.

But, I like DLD's idea, lock the kid in the safe when you're not home (ha-ha-ha)
 
A safe may work but my mind says that'll just further nosiness, like a "well what didn't they lock up?" I pulled the same shit at his age and I know if I would've found naked pictures of either parent I would have never gone in there again lol.

Last xmas I put a very nasty note in my closet that was on the sheet of cardboard hiding their xmas presents. It said something like "if you are reading this we WILL know and you can kiss your xmas goodbye and GTFO of our room!"

Dunno if either of them found it but the pile went undisturbed lol.
 
Yep, too late to completely hide it now but I'd play it down. The reward is much greater when they don't have a clue. I've managed to keep it a secret from my wife for a couple years of so. Things have come out of her mouth during sex that she's never said before. And we've been together for a couple decades. By her not knowing, you can see her reactions and know its for real. If they know they'll just tell you what you want to hear. The question is...how long before she wakes up one day and says, "WTF" ?
 
Randolpho;727482 said:
Yep, too late to completely hide it now but I'd play it down. The reward is much greater when they don't have a clue. I've managed to keep it a secret from my wife for a couple years of so. Things have come out of her mouth during sex that she's never said before. And we've been together for a couple decades. By her not knowing, you can see her reactions and know its for real. If they know they'll just tell you what you want to hear. The question is...how long before she wakes up one day and says, "WTF" ?

That was what I was trying to do. She doesn't believe it's possible though so I'm just keeping a lid on it for now. Nothing to talk about unless she happens to catch me after a good pumping session.
 
Threak-X;727457 said:
Yeah, I know that one... I have a friend with the same issue with her daughter. I setup several WiFi-nanny-cams throughout her house to a website and she could get it on her phone. Caught the nosy culprit (daughter), now, she's very careful about what she does around the house, doesn't dare go in her Mom's room alone anymore and stays in her own room most of the time.

But, I like DLD's idea, lock the kid in the safe when you're not home (ha-ha-ha)

yep lack of privacy is such a pain..
 
cladre60;727466 said:
A safe may work but my mind says that'll just further nosiness, like a "well what didn't they lock up?" I pulled the same shit at his age and I know if I would've found naked pictures of either parent I would have never gone in there again lol.

Last xmas I put a very nasty note in my closet that was on the sheet of cardboard hiding their xmas presents. It said something like "if you are reading this we WILL know and you can kiss your xmas goodbye and GTFO of our room!"

Dunno if either of them found it but the pile went undisturbed lol.

Start collecting silver or gold or antiques or rare books or something that needs to be locked up. Perfect reason for a safe and you can store your PE stuff too.
 
doublelongdaddy;727545 said:
Start collecting silver or gold or antiques or rare books or something that needs to be locked up. Perfect reason for a safe and you can store your PE stuff too.

I know at the very least I need to get a fire proof lock box or if possible a small fire proof safe. I have a 3 ring binder that has all my most important paperwork in it (birth cert, all my USMC service records, diplomas etc) and while it's all in a safe place it needs to be in a fire proof safe place.

I should start looking for one that'll hold a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Length Master[/words] cause if the place is burning down I'll want to save those too. I'd need something positive to keep me going if we lost it all in a fire lol.
 
cladre60;727563 said:
I know at the very least I need to get a fire proof lock box or if possible a small fire proof safe. I have a 3 ring binder that has all my most important paperwork in it (birth cert, all my USMC service records, diplomas etc) and while it's all in a safe place it needs to be in a fire proof safe place.

I should start looking for one that'll hold a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Length Master[/words] cause if the place is burning down I'll want to save those too. I'd need something positive to keep me going if we lost it all in a fire lol.

Perfect and you are not lying and you will no longer be in fear of snoops!
 
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