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I have been doing this on and off and quit to frustration and now I am going to give it another shot. The equipment I currently have:

Phallason [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] -
[words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PeniMaster Pro[/words] -
[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size Genetics[/words] -
Hanger - With weights equaling to twenty pounds


Current Routine -

- Salv's Quest to Jelqing - Twenty Minutes a day (Read the Thread )

- One heavy Hanging set of twenty minutes

- [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size Genetics[/words] -- Three hours a day highest setting

-PeniMaster Pro - Will wear whenever I am out doing stuff. Its super comfy! (Want to land at least five hours after [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] and even while sleeping)

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Current Measurements -

7 3/4 BPEL

4 6/8 midshaft girth

Base 5 Girth - 5 1/4

Girth down from mid 5"


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Goals - 9 BPEL

6" Girth


Fantasy Goal......

10 NPBEL

7" Girth






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Every Day Routine:


Heavy Hanging set - 20 minutes

Jelq - 20 Minutes

[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size Genetics[/words] - 5 Hours

[words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster Pro[/words] - 5 Hours a day if not more while sleeping
 
looks like you have all The tools tog make it happen.
you are going to reach your goal inå notime.

do you bundle stretch and erect stretches?
 
pillesnoppen;704525 said:
looks like you have all The tools tog make it happen.
you are going to reach your goal inå notime.

do you bundle stretch and erect stretches?

Yes. Depending on your goals. If you want length you're going to need to incorporate bundle stretch, and expressive stretching if you're not going to do basic stretching and instead do hanging.
 
kyomoto;704573 said:
Yes. Depending on your goals. If you want length you're going to need to incorporate bundle stretch, and expressive stretching if you're not going to do basic stretching and instead do hanging.

correct me if i am wrong.
but wouldnt a stretched tunica help alot with tissue expansion girthwise too? :)
 
Re> pillesnoppen

I have never really got into bundle stretches or erect stretches. I am one of those odd people who try to do manual stretches and just really don't feel much of a stretch. I can rep out hundred pound incline dumbells in the gym, do one handed 75 pound concentration curls with my arms (on an incline bench), rep out 225 on full squats, but can't do basic stretches. Go figure
 
kyomoto;704573 said:
Yes. Depending on your goals. If you want length you're going to need to incorporate bundle stretch, and expressive stretching if you're not going to do basic stretching and instead do hanging.

Ok thank you so much for the replies! That is why I love this forum! Help me modify my routine as needed. Tell me exactly how the bundle stretches and expressive stretches are done if you can. I just created an excel workout where I have every moment of every day planned out. I can upload the excel workout if you guys want to take a look at it, not sure if I am allowed. But the totality of my PE time is as listed:

Per Week >

Total Penis Workout Hours - 11.5
Total Extended Hours - 95
------------------------------------
Total Penis enlargement Hours Per week 106.5

Average [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] per day for a week --- 13.57
 
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So I have done two days so far of twenty minutes of Jelqing and two hours at high tension with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size Genetics[/words]. The bulb broke on my [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster pro[/words] so I am waiting for the hose to come in which could take up to a week. In the meantime I am going to use the phallason [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size genetics[/words] coupled with my workouts. I measured today to keep the dates simple, I will measure again next month on the 10th.

Current Measurements -

7 3/4 BPEL

4 6/8 midshaft girth

Base 5 Girth - 5 1/4

Girth down from mid 5"

My goal is to slap on a quarter of an inch of length in a month. Lets see if I can make it happen. Any constructive criticism is allowed. Help me on my journey boys!!!
 
pillesnoppen;704589 said:
correct me if i am wrong.
but wouldnt a stretched tunica help alot with tissue expansion girthwise too? :)

Girth + length

bigger7757;704618 said:
Re> pillesnoppen

I have never really got into bundle stretches or erect stretches. I am one of those odd people who try to do manual stretches and just really don't feel much of a stretch. I can rep out hundred pound incline dumbells in the gym, do one handed 75 pound concentration curls with my arms (on an incline bench), rep out 225 on full squats, but can't do basic stretches. Go figure

So your strength isn't enough? Then definitely start hanging.

bigger7757;704619 said:
Ok thank you so much for the replies! That is why I love this forum! Help me modify my routine as needed. Tell me exactly how the bundle stretches and expressive stretches are done if you can. I just created an excel workout where I have every moment of every day planned out. I can upload the excel workout if you guys want to take a look at it, not sure if I am allowed. But the totality of my PE time is as listed:

Per Week >

Total Penis Workout Hours - 11.5
Total Extended Hours - 95
------------------------------------
Total Penis enlargement Hours Per week 106.5

Average [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] per day for a week --- 13.57

One expressive stretching exercise i highly recommend is the mandingo stretch : How To Perform the Mandingo Stretch- 3 Easy Steps with Pictures

bundle stretch: https://www.pegym.com/penis-exercises/bundled-stretch-video-instructions
 
Ok update on my first two workouts. Things went well and I am feeling good about the routine. I do have trouble with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words], it is kind of hit or miss so I am looking forward to getting my house for the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words]-pro. When I go to sleep at night I think it will contribute to a way better stretch then the phallason [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words]. So for two days I put in 10+ hours of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] stretching, and my two #phase 1 workouts which was the 20 minutes of jelqs, twenty minute hanging set, and then slapping the phallason on right away for a few hours before work.

I am uploading a pic to keep track of my gains. I can't wait until I measure and I am 8 1/4 or 8 1/2.
 
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kyomoto;704707 said:
Girth + length



So your strength isn't enough? Then definitely start hanging.



One expressive stretching exercise i highly recommend is the mandingo stretch : How To Perform the Mandingo Stretch- 3 Easy Steps with Pictures

bundle stretch: https://www.pegym.com/penis-exercises/bundled-stretch-video-instructions


Unfortunately I cannot do the mandingo stretch. I spent one week straight, three hours a day (one day six hours) trying to do it. I followed the instructions exactly on that site and all I ever feel is pressure half way on my tunica and no inward stretch at all. I will try it again and see if I can figure it out but it really really bums me out. I don't know if I am doing something wrong, or if that exercise just doesn't work for me. I am watching the video on bundled stretches now.
 
So quick question on the bundled stretches. Can I do those in the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster pro[/words] and be bundled and stretching all night long? Is there a way to mod the phallason [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] so I can be bundled and stretching all the time? I will definitely add bundled stretches into my routine. What is the most effective bundled stretches I can do in 15-20 minutes? So my routine will now be as follows:

Warmup - 5 minutes
Hanging (heavy) - 20 minutes
Bundled stretches - 20 minutes
Jelqs - 20 minutes
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[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] - As long as I possibly can.
 
bigger7757;704734 said:

Are you uploading this directly from your computer or an online host

bigger7757;704735 said:
Unfortunately I cannot do the mandingo stretch. I spent one week straight, three hours a day (one day six hours) trying to do it. I followed the instructions exactly on that site and all I ever feel is pressure half way on my tunica and no inward stretch at all. I will try it again and see if I can figure it out but it really really bums me out. I don't know if I am doing something wrong, or if that exercise just doesn't work for me. I am watching the video on bundled stretches now.

Try taking a video or picture of you doing it maybe we can help
 
kyomoto;704788 said:
Are you uploading this directly from your computer or an online host



Try taking a video or picture of you doing it maybe we can help


Uploaded from my computer.
 
bigger7757;704805 said:
Uploaded from my computer.

Try using an image host like Imgur.com

Upload it and list it as private then try Insert Image again, this time go to the "From URL" tab, put the link and uncheck "Retrieve remote file and reference locally"
 
So update. Works have been going good. I saw that I have been lacking on the warm-ups and warm-downs. It appears some people didn't start gaining until they did a proper warmup. I don't have the privacy to use a microwave so the only way I can do this is to use my ricecooker, then dip washcloths in the hot water when it starts to steam/boil. I didn't feel like I was getting much out of the twenty minutes of jelqing so I bumped it up to 40-60 minutes.

Manual exercises are still a bitch. I know that I am pulling super hard but I just do not feel it very much except for my glands. For hanging I am up to 20.5 pounds. After reading the heavy hanging thread people started getting great gains when they hit around fifty pounds. I plan to add a pound a week. Other then that still using my Phallason-forte after my workouts and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size Genetics[/words] at night doing bundle stretch sets. Will post an update soon.
 
bigger7757;705178 said:
So update. Works have been going good. I saw that I have been lacking on the warm-ups and warm-downs. It appears some people didn't start gaining until they did a proper warmup. I don't have the privacy to use a microwave so the only way I can do this is to use my ricecooker, then dip washcloths in the hot water when it starts to steam/boil. I didn't feel like I was getting much out of the twenty minutes of jelqing so I bumped it up to 40-60 minutes.

Manual exercises are still a bitch. I know that I am pulling super hard but I just do not feel it very much except for my glands. For hanging I am up to 20.5 pounds. After reading the heavy hanging thread people started getting great gains when they hit around fifty pounds. I plan to add a pound a week. Other then that still using my Phallason-forte after my workouts and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size Genetics[/words] at night doing bundle stretch sets. Will post an update soon.

great work and yeah hanging will take some time
 
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Best of luck!
 
Ya.... I tried the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] before and just didn't really get much out of it. I am more trying to use manuals and an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] to get gains. Unfortunately I think I am just a hard gainer.
 
bigger7757;705328 said:
Ya.... I tried the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] before and just didn't really get much out of it. I am more trying to use manuals and an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] to get gains. Unfortunately I think I am just a hard gainer.

When did you start PE. You're going to need to implement manual work in there. Manuals got me 2" in length in about 11 months. Take it slow because to me it looks like you've got a lot of equipment but no real focus. What would you rather focus on length, girth, or both. I can help you set up a routine but I need to know how long you been doing PE for so I understand your experience level and how much your penis can handle.
 
Hey Kyomoto! I really appreciate you taking your time to help me out. I have been doing PE on and off for about ten years. I gained probably an inch and a half in first few then nothing after that. I am guilty as to not being consistent but am going to give it another shot with a disciplined plan! I did some research today on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] thread and I think bundled stretches have been my missing link. So I have decided to specialize in bundled stretches as the foundation of my workout program. So my focus right now is 100% on length. I would love to hit two inches more then I am right now to put me right at 9.5 BPEL. After that I will go for an inch of girth then another inch or two in length. My plan right now is as follows:

Warmup

DO ALL OF THESE AS BUNDLED STRETCHES

Behind The Cheeks to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Behind The Cheeks to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Behind The Cheeks to the Right: 30-seconds x 3

Straight Down to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Down to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Down to the Right: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Down Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Straight Out to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Out to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Out to the Right: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Out Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Straight Up to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Up to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Up to the Right: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Up Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

20 - 30 minutes of jelqs
[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] as much as possible

What do you think?
 
Ok so I found out how to use the Phalloson [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size Genetics[/words] as a Phallgenetics or whatever its called. I am not bundled one full turn without having to take this off ever. Is it overdoing it staying bundled for 6-8 hours in the phallogenentics?
 
Alright guys.... For fucks Sake. I just read through this thread "Re: >>::.DLD's Bundled Double Tunica Stretch>>THE END ALL TUNICA STRETCH" and had quite an awakening. I think this is ABSOLUTELY the missing link of what I have needed for so long. I want to specialize in bundled stretches. I just did 30 second ones down straight and up and felt an insane stretch. It's like I couldn't do it as hard as I could because I would have hurt myself, it is exactly what I needed.

Now for my question..... Can I have insane length gains from bundle stretches alone? I just don't feel like I get much out of any other stretch except for bundled.
 
bigger7757;705395 said:
Hey Kyomoto! I really appreciate you taking your time to help me out. I have been doing PE on and off for about ten years. I gained probably an inch and a half in first few then nothing after that. I am guilty as to not being consistent but am going to give it another shot with a disciplined plan! I did some research today on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] thread and I think bundled stretches have been my missing link. So I have decided to specialize in bundled stretches as the foundation of my workout program. So my focus right now is 100% on length. I would love to hit two inches more then I am right now to put me right at 9.5 BPEL. After that I will go for an inch of girth then another inch or two in length. My plan right now is as follows:

Warmup

DO ALL OF THESE AS BUNDLED STRETCHES

Behind The Cheeks to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Behind The Cheeks to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Behind The Cheeks to the Right: 30-seconds x 3

Straight Down to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Down to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Down to the Right: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Down Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Straight Out to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Out to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Out to the Right: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Out Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Straight Up to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Up to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Up to the Right: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Up Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

20 - 30 minutes of jelqs

[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] as much as possible

What do you think?

It looks good.
Since you're focused on length, first thing I'd change:

-Make sure to do your jelqs in a flaccid state for length gains
-Make sure to incorporate Mandingo stretch (Video-Mandingo Stretch By Blue Whale - Slutload.com)
-Make sure to incorporate Erect stretch (Self explanatory)
 
Ok so update. I have been doing 20-30 minutes of bundled stretches a day along with 20-30 minutes of jelqing a day (after my warmup of course). With my free time I have been putting on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size genetics[/words] for one to three hours at 1200 grams. And of course, I have been sleeping with my phallason [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words]. My flacid does look quite a bit thicker and it seems like I have extra skin on my unit now. It just looks bigger in some way, i can't really explain it. I measured my flacid length and it didn't look like I really gained much. However, I measured my BPEL and it looks slightly longer. Its only been nine days so its too soon to tell. I will try to not measure again until next month.
 
bigger7757;705888 said:
Ok so update. I have been doing 20-30 minutes of bundled stretches a day along with 20-30 minutes of jelqing a day (after my warmup of course). With my free time I have been putting on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size genetics[/words] for one to three hours at 1200 grams. And of course, I have been sleeping with my phallason [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words]. My flacid does look quite a bit thicker and it seems like I have extra skin on my unit now. It just looks bigger in some way, i can't really explain it. I measured my flacid length and it didn't look like I really gained much. However, I measured my BPEL and it looks slightly longer. Its only been nine days so its too soon to tell. I will try to not measure again until next month.

Seeing physical gain in size is always going to remotely resemble a big gain. But who knows just give it some time and maybe you'll see in your measurements.
 
Munto;705927 said:
Couldn't have said it better :)!
DLD-Blasters/Edging and bundled stretches are key too

Or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] Size Blasters are another incredible exercise!
 
doublelongdaddy;706342 said:
Or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] Size Blasters are another incredible exercise!

Why not all of them :)
 
Munto;706912 said:
Mixing it up, to never get bored :)!

thats why i always try to use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] only IF i can hold onto it. If it slips off then i dont bother, same with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].
 
kyomoto;706363 said:
Why not all of them :)

I am all for doing as much as possible. The unique thing about [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] Size Blasters are they do both girth and length in one exercise. But I would never tell anyone to use one exercise to gain. PE is a fine balance of exercises, tools and understandings on how to use this most effectively. So do as much as you can while being sure you are covering all bases.
 
doublelongdaddy;707048 said:
I am all for doing as much as possible. The unique thing about [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] Size Blasters are they do both girth and length in one exercise. But I would never tell anyone to use one exercise to gain. PE is a fine balance of exercises, tools and understandings on how to use this most effectively. So do as much as you can while being sure you are covering all bases.

gotta make sure to cover the fundamentals in a routine
 
kyomoto;707078 said:
gotta make sure to cover the fundamentals in a routine

Very important and easy to lay out

1. Bundles
2. Length Routine>>>>> Basic Stretches, Expressive Stretches, Erect Stretches, [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words], [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words], Hanger, any length work.
3. Heal

1. Bundles
2. Girth Work
3. Heal
 
doublelongdaddy;707251 said:
Very important and easy to lay out

1. Bundles
2. Length Routine>>>>> Basic Stretches, Expressive Stretches, Erect Stretches, [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words], [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words], Hanger, any length work.
3. Heal

1. Bundles
2. Girth Work
3. Heal

exactly 3 components but with many sub components like warming up for healing, rest days for healing etc.
 
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