I've been at this PE thing off and on for years, done intense routines, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], all that, and never once have I grown more than .2" temporarily. It makes me question a lot of people's gains. I don't see how some guys are putting on inches when I've done both more and less than them, varying my routines, just to see no change except for my dick getting darker.
 
Your problem is you started out too heavy, so you need constant heavy workouts which you don't complete.
 
What are your previous routines?
What is your current size?
What is your goal?
Answer these please
We will help you out as much as you need. Our gains come from strict routines that have been done for more than a year.

You said you've done PE off and on. How about you don't go off and on, make it always "on"
 
As painful it can be when we are not making what we want to happen happen but you should never quit. If things are not working the way you are training then you need to take a step back, reset the mind and come back at it from a different angle, a different perspective. I will pray for you and I hope those prayers bring you to a place of accomplishment.


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doublelongdaddy;673561 said:
As painful it can be when we are not making what we want to happen happen but you should never quit. If things are not working the way you are training then you need to take a step back, reset the mind and come back at it from a different angle, a different perspective. I will pray for you and I hope those prayers bring you to a place of accomplishment.


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Different angle works. If you come into the PE realm in a very negative and skeptical manner then you won't see gains coming. It's also possible OP is not measuring correctly and expects flaccid gains over erect gains
 
Look at my signature for my size (although i have outgrown it since)

There is beginners pics of me in old thread and current pics in new threads.

Now look at my date of joining this forum.

I probably had 1 year before coming here.

I have been here for a long time mate. And i can assure you it has been some intense periods of PE'ing.

And it is not easy!
And how much have a grown ? Not that much really.
Now with that being said!

If you don't have a progress thread.
If you haven't done all the must have measurements.
And if you don't workout consistently.

Well then you have signed up for failure.

Go to the local gym and look at the guys down there. How many % are actually fit? Maybe 30% at max.

Now go down to the local training center for gymnasts. How many of them are fit? Fucking 100%!! Why? Because doing what they are doing is only possible being fit. So they need to work out almost everyday.

With other words they have set themself up for success.

If you havent taken atleast 2 months of dedicated working with 90% consistency.

How can you expect your tissue to stretch and not just snuggle back into its normal shape?


Im not saying that this isn't hard.

And im not saying that there have never been a PE cheater around.

But what i am saying is that there is things that makes success almost unavoidable.

And there is things that makes success almost unachiveable

And doing intense workouts occationally without monitoring tension or time. And manipulate these factors over time.

I just dont see gains happening.

But then again. I feel the same about going to the gym :)
 
well calling it quits is not something id do..maybe if a brother gets to a massive size maybe like an 11 x 8 or something the penis will not be human anymore LOL jk.


Some bros want a 7x5,some others maybe an 8x6 maybe more PE is not that easy......Id take a while before someone makes that decision..
 
Dude three time I've been close to cementing half an inch, but everytime I get fucked over. But I get back to it, I recently started seeing expansion of up to an inch each session that would last for days, but got injured and it all fell apart, but I'm back at it, in.a house with paper thin walls and no time to.my self, you just have to figure out how much you want it.
 
doublelongdaddy;673561 said:
As painful it can be when we are not making what we want to happen happen but you should never quit. If things are not working the way you are training then you need to take a step back, reset the mind and come back at it from a different angle, a different perspective. I will pray for you and I hope those prayers bring you to a place of accomplishment.


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pray for me too there are tons of things i want improve,change n get......:)
 
jekyllnhyde360;673635 said:
Dude three time I've been close to cementing half an inch, but everytime I get fucked over. But I get back to it, I recently started seeing expansion of up to an inch each session that would last for days, but got injured and it all fell apart, but I'm back at it, in.a house with paper thin walls and no time to.my self, you just have to figure out how much you want it.

Every time you get "fucked over" you'll still be slowling cementing gains. I wouldn't take the frustration like that in such a negative way. Just more time for PE :)
 
dmoney101;673446 said:
I've been at this PE thing off and on for years, done intense routines, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], all that, and never once have I grown more than .2" temporarily. It makes me question a lot of people's gains. I don't see how some guys are putting on inches when I've done both more and less than them, varying my routines, just to see no change except for my dick getting darker.

There is no such thing as on and off in PE.You either are consistent and gain,or not.If you do PE on and off do not expect gains.

Consistency - > Good routine with the corect intensity - > Good diet - > Sleep = Gains

PS: Templite is right you started out with intense routine and now you need very intense routines to gain.

This is why i recommend doing manuals only for the first 6 months - 1 year of your PE journey.Start slowly,switch yo intense when you are ready.
 
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kyomoto;673666 said:
Every time you get "fucked over" you'll still be slowling cementing gains. I wouldn't take the frustration like that in such a negative way. Just more time for PE :)

you misunderstood what i was saying.
 
He makes alot of presumptions which are projections of his self too
 
ChilDsh;673670 said:
There is no such thing as on and off in PE.You either are consistent and gain,or not.If you do PE on and off do not expect gains.

Consistency - > Good routine with the corect intensity - > Good diet - > Sleep = Gains

PS: Templite is right you started out with intense routine and now you need very intense routines to gain.

This is why i recommend doing manuals only for the first 6 months - 1 year of your PE journey.Start slowly,switch yo intense when you are ready.
I agree consistency is the problem here, but on the bright side if you have tried a bunch of routines you should know which exercises give you the best results. Do them over and over again for a long time and you get permanent gains.
 
Nobody can tell you when you need to stop. I can understand the frustration but there's evidence all over the place to support the idea that pe is not mythology. I've seen it work plenty in my own life. The bottom line is something about your approach isn't working. Skipped days, lack of cementing, no kegels. There's actually a lot of ways to screw yourself out of gains. Hanging around here and asking questions will probably be a big help in figuring out what the problem is.

If I can do it anyone can.
 
The thing is if you're gonna start, and stop you shouldnt have started. This shit requires constant attention bruhs there's no room for slacking. Consider, if gains come slow for us dedicated ones
 
shortdick;673650 said:
pray for me too there are tons of things i want improve,change n get......:)

Every Brother here is in my prayers aways! God bless every Brother here and their amazing contribution to the Brotherhood!
 
jekyllnhyde360;673671 said:
you misunderstood what i was saying.

I understood, this says everything, I think you misunderstand me idk.

You: "But I get back to it, I recently started seeing expansion of up to an inch each session that would last for days, but got injured and it all fell apart, but I'm back at it, in.a house with paper thin walls and no time to.my self, you just have to figure out how much you want it."

You get back to it yes, and you keep working towards it. Great. Just assumed you were frustrated.
 
templnite;673714 said:
The thing is if you're gonna start, and stop you shouldnt have started. This shit requires constant attention bruhs there's no room for slacking. Consider, if gains come slow for us dedicated ones

Indeed it does. PE is not a walk around the park, it is a lifetime commitment. Is it worth it? You tell me.
 
Wouldn't it be queer if the honey's ran away from my 7/7 :s, still worth it:cool:
 
templnite;673939 said:
Wouldn't it be queer if the honey's ran away from my 7/7 :s, still worth it:cool:

That's why you get her worked up before you do the big reveal. Make her desperate for the d and you should be good to go.
 
My platonic demonic symphonic hip-hop shit will have robbed her free will, and there will be no rejection or objection
 
The question in session is one of obsession. Will it fit in her mouth, or her hip midsection? Don't mind the inflection, give that ho an injection. Just try not to mention the the clamping girth tension.
 
Oh shit hole up I'm gonna make her fold up when the swole chunk in guts. Left split trunks, squeegeed gunk, spilled ecto-puss insidious. No more lush, or clean cut stumps juss woodchips, and blood. This what happens when yo period flows up, city of love blowed up:cool:
 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Back on topic you two^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

ChilDsh;673670 said:
There is no such thing as on and off in PE.You either are consistent and gain,or not.If you do PE on and off do not expect gains.

Consistency - > Good routine with the corect intensity - > Good diet - > Sleep = Gains

PS: Templite is right you started out with intense routine and now you need very intense routines to gain.

This is why i recommend doing manuals only for the first 6 months - 1 year of your PE journey.Start slowly,switch yo intense when you are ready.

I even recommend manuals for 1-2 years. Devices can always wait.
 
kyomoto;674198 said:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Back on topic you two^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



I even recommend manuals for 1-2 years. Devices can always wait.

Devices can wait but they are extremely valuable in the gaining process. I went completely manual to make most of my gains and that took me 13 years. If I had these tools and the way [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] uses them I know I could have done this so much faster. With that said, I am happy that I did it this way because it allowed me to come up with a massive amount of exercises and routines.
 
doublelongdaddy;674221 said:
Devices can wait but they are extremely valuable in the gaining process. I went completely manual to make most of my gains and that took me 13 years. If I had these tools and the way [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] uses them I know I could have done this so much faster. With that said, I am happy that I did it this way because it allowed me to come up with a massive amount of exercises and routines.

That is true. I just say do manuals for a longer time simply because it gives the potential gains. But some people don't like to wait that long thats why devices are great :)
 
kyomoto;674288 said:
That is true. I just say do manuals for a longer time simply because it gives the potential gains. But nobody likes to wait that long thats why devices are great :)

Fixed.

Especially length training without extending or [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words].
 
kyomoto;674288 said:
That is true. I just say do manuals for a longer time simply because it gives the potential gains. But some people don't like to wait that long thats why devices are great :)

i spent a few years doing manual exercises,n was ok but theres a limit for that id say, when the grip is not strong enough n the hands can help either..

the devices are an amazing help the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] is one of the them:)
 
kyomoto;674288 said:
That is true. I just say do manuals for a longer time simply because it gives the potential gains. But some people don't like to wait that long thats why devices are great :)

Yeah, if you have been in this game as long as me you would see just how much PE changed since I got involved. Amazing really and most advancement came through the Brotherhood.
 
doublelongdaddy;674378 said:
Yeah, if you have been in this game as long as me you would see just how much PE changed since I got involved. Amazing really and most advancement came through the Brotherhood.

It has evolved because of you and the many that help make products like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] :)

Longth;674318 said:
I'm going to make you a cheeseburger.

I'll even eat you.

Fixed.

Longth;674309 said:
Fixed.

Especially length training without extending or [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words].

Well nobody likes to wait that long but I don't mind the wait to be honest :)
 
The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] is one of the most useful devices..Once the user learns to use it the gains start to come easier..;)
 
kyomoto;674559 said:
It has evolved because of you and the many that help make products like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] :)



Fixed.



Well nobody likes to wait that long but I don't mind the wait to be honest :)

Cannibalism is only acceptable for chickens.

Because feeding chickens chicken fries is too obvious an irony to not partake in.
 
shortdick;674577 said:
The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] is one of the most useful devices..Once the user learns to use it the gains start to come easier..;)

Yes my man! I'm on my way to mastering this awesome device
Longth;674582 said:
Cannibalism is only acceptable for chickens.

Because feeding chickens chicken fries is too obvious an irony to not partake in.

????????
 
long ass cock, the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] can do the trick yep once you have it mastered the monster cock will show up in a much easier way..:) we both want huge gains.
 
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Back to the topic...

You can never really stop. You at least want to do maintenance and eq/stamina training, which is hardly the worst thing. Maintenance is easily integrated into [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] training and can also be done when you shower with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. Eq training is as easy as you find kegels to be. The bottom line is you need to stop talking days off and commit. You might as well. You'll be back if you leave. You'll just be less frustrated if you actually do it whole heatedly.
 
Longth;674652 said:
Back to the topic...

You can never really stop. You at least want to do maintenance and eq/stamina training, which is hardly the worst thing. Maintenance is easily integrated into [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] training and can also be done when you shower with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. Eq training is as easy as you find kegels to be. The bottom line is you need to stop talking days off and commit. You might as well. You'll be back if you leave. You'll just be less frustrated if you actually do it whole heatedly.

Very true. All Brothers need to know that PE does not stop when you have made your gains, it goes on for the rest of your life! This does not mean active exercises to gain, but maintenance routines that keep the penis in it's best possible health. One session a week is plenty, but if you want to go more you can but go lightly or you will gain. Today I do many exercise and use many tool but lightly, not looking to gain, only to find new exercises and to keep myself maintained.
 
Longth;674652 said:
Back to the topic...

You can never really stop. You at least want to do maintenance and eq/stamina training, which is hardly the worst thing. Maintenance is easily integrated into [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] training and can also be done when you shower with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. Eq training is as easy as you find kegels to be. The bottom line is you need to stop talking days off and commit. You might as well. You'll be back if you leave. You'll just be less frustrated if you actually do it whole heatedly.
One of the most easily undertaken advice.
 
Off and on over the span of years means I've gone more than 6 months at a time and any time I quit, it's because life made me do it. You can say just get some pe on doing piss pulls and a few jelqs here and there, but the truth is, if hour plus long routines haven't seen me any gains, half assed attempts would be pointless.
 
The other day they posted a thread asking "what did the big gainers do special?" There's no secret, its a matter of unyielding tenacity. Idk where they sold you the idea that a certain routine for a certain time will guarantee gains, that's simply not true it takes lots of dedication. Don't expect anything you haven't worked your butt off for.
 
Gains arent an easy thing to get at all..i have taken breaks,days off,weak routines,etc besides i have to deal whit depression..I get really unmotivated and sad.

I have been stretching squeezing,pulling my penis for years,n yeah i have gained i had an average 5.5 inches long penis,nowadays im 7.25 bpel.

You need to get the negative toughts off your head.You need to start a good routine n choose between lengh n girth.its much easier than wanting to gain both.

Start today or as soon as possible.keep in mind that everyday you start a session you are already gaining..

INTENSITY n understanding what are you doing is way too important.There are no shorcuts in PE..

The on n off is way too negative n useless because you can get temporary gains n get motivated n loose them a few days later..:P


You need a strong will, commitment n discipline.otherwise things are not going to work the way you tought they would.

Cementing gains is important too you want a 7 incher go for 7.5 inches in lenght. you want 6 inches in girth go for a 6.5 inches in girth.

Remember time will pass anyway, better to exercise today than being regretful later..;)
 
^The most important point you bring up is attitude, and i notice our brother dmoney doesn't seem to have the best enthusiasm :blush:. I infer this mainly from the part where 'life' happened, and that was enough to make him quit
 
dmoney101;674868 said:
Off and on over the span of years means I've gone more than 6 months at a time and any time I quit, it's because life made me do it. You can say just get some pe on doing piss pulls and a few jelqs here and there, but the truth is, if hour plus long routines haven't seen me any gains, half assed attempts would be pointless.

I understood what you meant but even that can have great affects. 6 months being done but then going off is a big deal. But you shold have made gains within 6 months
 
Getting no gains means that you havent understood what PE really is n you havent worked hard enough,if you want to see gains you need to do it everyday.for at least a six months period...:)

The SRTs been here for years n if you havent tried that maybe you should..Im almost sure you wont get dissapointed.
 
Yeah the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words] is intense man really comprehensive program, but people want to make their own routine expecting the same results. Just doesn't happen if you don't know what you're doing
 
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