There has been a discussion about how frequent (prolonged) erections can lead to gains, but how? Or infact, how do we get gains in the first place from exercises such as jelqing.
Well when we do damage to a part of our body, our body initiates a response, which causes inflammation of that area as well as redness. The redness is caused by the increasing blood flow to that area, which also gets warm. This is a result of vasodilation. Also the blood vessels become leaky and fluid and cells will leave the blood causing swelling (oedema). Wait a minute! Isn’t that the EXACT response we see from jelqing? Increased blood flow, redness, swelling? Yes! Its because we are causing internal damage to our penis which initiates this response.
So, how exactly is this response brought about? ‘Chemical mediators of inflammation’ which may be endogenous (physical damage) or exogenous (bee sting) will cause this inflammation effect. Its this inflammation effect on our penis which I believe gives us gains, which stresses our tissues to grow and adapt to the damage its receiving. I base this on the fact that we can grow by having prolonged erections (priapism) which is basically an increase in blood flow to the penis that may simulate or actually cause an inflammatory response, which as stated earlier causes blood to leave the blood vessels into the tissue and stay there, therefore forcing more blood into the spongy tissues of the cs and cc.
I mentioned above ‘chemical mediators of inflammation’ one chemical that CAUSES an inflammation effect is histamine! By physically damaging your penis you are causing your mast cells and platelets to release histamine into the area. This histamine causes local vasodilation and contraction of extravascular smooth muscle that gives rise to the inflammation.
Final note: ever heard the myth that people used to get bees to sting their penis to make it grow huge, or getting snakes to bite it? Well, the main chemical in these stings is histamine, which would be basically a MASSIVE pe session at one time. So is this really a myth? Note: I do not recommend getting bitten by anything to cause this effect. Something to think about though is injections, will injections of histamine into the deep tissue of the penis cause inflammation, and hence expansion of the penile tissue?
Warning: if histamine is injected DIRECTLY INTO THE BLOOD STREAM (a vein) it has the ability to cause systemic vasodilation, hence a massive drop in blood pressure which puts a massive strain on the heart (why people die from bee stings).
 
Rude_God said:
Interesting information Evo but do you reckon we could put any of that into practice? Btw how's the challenge goin?


im not sure, the whole concept would be to get as much histamine there as possible to get maximum expansion. without injecting histamine this would mean really long jelq sessions. the way im thinking of it is to jelq until your penis has a high internal pressure (feels harder) this way you know that the blood has left the blood vessels and inflammation started.

ive just read the info on thunders, and apparently being stung in the dick by wasps is in the karma sutra! well i didnt know that, this was said by scientific theory alone.

the mv challenge is going good, had a few blisters so spent a while healing, but as long as i dont have any more time off then should be fine :)
 
Prolonged erections give you gains because of decreased elasticity of the Tunica. I've read several medical papers on this.
 
goldmember said:
decreased elasticity, or increased elasticity??
Decreased elasticity: as if a rubber band became permanently stretched out. Do some searches, because megalophallus is an instance of Penis Enlargement where it is medically/physiologically documented how the gains occur.
 
Elasticity of the tunica is less than 5%, meaning 95% of the tunica is so dense that stretching it is close to impossible. What does this mean? Simple mathematics will tell you this: a 10" x 10" penis (I know this is unrealistic but just trying to keep the math simple.) with 5% capacity to expand (via the tunica) a gain of .5" either way is possible. Now, after effectively expanding the penis to this size the opportunity to increase it again by the same math is possible. So you will be working with 10.5 x 10.5 with an elasticity of 5%. The gains will be constant based on the relative size you are working with.
 
My05Cavy said:
So if the elasticity was lowered then wouldn't our gains stopped if it couldn't extend any more????:(

It is relative to the present size. If you are bigger than your were last year, the 5% (or what ever the exact number is) of tunica gain is now reset.
 
There are so many other factors to consider. One thing I've read which I found interesting is that people's tunicas can be either single, double, or triple layered, which will make a huge difference in the forces needed to stretch your tunica.

And I'll disagree with DLD's hypothesis on tunica elasticity being the upper limit for tunica gains within a single session. While tunica elasticity IS 5%, it is ALSO possible to stretch your tunica more than 5% in a single session. There was the link posted on this forum about a man who went to 8.5" girth in a single priapism. Do you really think he was 8" girth beforehand? No way, no how.

If you are having trouble wrapping your heads around the concept of decreased elasticity, consider this: in the case of megalophallus, the girth stays pretty much the same in the flacid and erect states.
 
spinner2 said:
There are so many other factors to consider. One thing I've read which I found interesting is that people's tunicas can be either single, double, or triple layered, which will make a huge difference in the forces needed to stretch your tunica.

And I'll disagree with DLD's hypothesis on tunica elasticity being the upper limit for tunica gains within a single session. While tunica elasticity IS 5%, it is ALSO possible to stretch your tunica more than 5% in a single session. There was the link posted on this forum about a man who went to 8.5" girth in a single priapism. Do you really think he was 8" girth beforehand? No way, no how.

If you are having trouble wrapping your heads around the concept of decreased elasticity, consider this: in the case of megalophallus, the girth stays pretty much the same in the flacid and erect states.

5% of 8.00 is .4 this means he could get very close to 8.5" in one session. Being someone with priapism, his tunica has been under constant stress for an extended period of time making him a poor example. Keep in mind, you are only considering girth, his length would be effected also. The example may be further bias as it was not confirmed by a third party, nor are there photos or video.
 
doublelongdaddy said:
5% of 8.00 is .4 this means he could get very close to 8.5" in one session. Being someone with priapism, his tunica has been under constant stress for an extended period of time making him a poor example. Keep in mind, you are only considering girth, his length would be effected also. The example may be further bias as it was not confirmed by a third party, nor are there photos or video.
I know he could get to 8.5 if he was 8 beforehand, but I think it's highly unlikely that he was 8 beforehand. I almost gave myself megalophallus once, and while the gains weren't permanent, I gained about 20% girth afer 4 hours which took nearly 2 weeks to get back to normal (and this wasn't just fluid buildup like in jelqing). Maybe some lucky people have way more tunica elasticity than normal, but I was never an easy gainer, so I'm under the impression something else was going on.

The article I mentioned was puBathmateed, and the patient had to get reduction surgery to get down to 6.5" girth. I think there may have been some pictures in another article about this instance, too, although they weren't measured pictures.
 
spinner2 said:
I know he could get to 8.5 if he was 8 beforehand, but I think it's highly unlikely that he was 8 beforehand. I almost gave myself megalophallus once, and while the gains weren't permanent, I gained about 20% girth afer 4 hours which took nearly 2 weeks to get back to normal (and this wasn't just fluid buildup like in jelqing). Maybe some lucky people have way more tunica elasticity than normal, but I was never an easy gainer, so I'm under the impression something else was going on.

The same theory would not apply to someone who has experienced megalophallus due to sickle cell anemia (or a similar disorder) as they have had constant stretch on their tunica over extended amount of time. In your case, where you had gained 20% girth over a given time, it was not true girth with tunica expansion to the point of permanance because you went back to your original size. Elasticity is a very precise mathematical equation that states: V4 - V3=2(V1-V2) So as you can see there is a time factor that includes a given elastic stretch for a set time meaning a permanent stretch in elasticity only happens with an expanded size over an extended time. It is not possible over one session as it would be impossible to stretch a rubber band with 5% elasticity over one stretching.

The article I mentioned was puBathmateed, and the patient had to get reduction surgery to get down to 6.5" girth. I think there may have been some pictures in another article about this instance, too, although they weren't measured pictures.

This case is a perfect example of my last paragraph.
 
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