Very good thread on stretching tissues, growth, etc.



Grabbed this from over on Thundersplace, hey, they post some good stuff once in a while too ;)

Originally By Wadzilla

I was again thumbing through one of my old physics books, carefully rereading the sections on Plasticity/Deformable Solids. While the penis isn't actually a "deformable solid," I believe that the tunica material - and especially the ligs - may loosely fall under that heading, for they are dense & resistant structures.

1. Consider that any solid object has its own natural shape because the force bonds lock the atoms of the solid together. When a solid object is stretched, twisted or compressed, the atoms are pulled away from each other. If the forces distorting an object are removed and the object returns to its natural shape, the object is said to possess elasticity.

2. If the distorting forces are sufficiently large, the object will not regain its natural shape and is permanently distorted (elastic becomes plastic).

3. If the distorting forces are too extreme, the solid object will crack; such forces continued will cause the object to eventually shear.

4. The limit beyond which an object loses its elasticity is referred to as its elastic limit. Above its elastic limit, the object is permanently distorted and is said to be plastic rather than elastic.

5. When an object shows plastic behavior, the bonds between the atoms in the object break and are re-formed with different atoms.

In point #2, I don't believe that "sufficiently large forces" necessarily means tremendous forces. I believe there is a Time-Force continuum at play. Anybody who's owned a semi-automatic pistol knows that you're supposed to rotate 2-3 different clips if you keep your gun loaded. This is because the constant compressional forces of a fully-loaded clip upon the springs will take the spring beyond its elastic limit, to the permanent distortion of a plastic state. This, of course, will interfere with proper feeding of the ammunition into the chamber, possibly causing the gun to jam.

Point #3 raises the concerns that Metal Ed and I and others have expressed about using extreme intensity - particularly with fulcrum type stretching , where great stresses can really be concentrated at various points of the penis. Who wants to tear their cock?

Point #4 summarizes what we're after - in regard to lig & tunica stretching : Taking the tissues beyond their elastic limits, to a state of permanent (plastic) deformation.

As a side note, Point #5 answers the questions - in my opinion - about whether a Penis Enlargement'd cock is constitutionally the same as a natural cock. If plastic deformation (of the ligs & tunica) has actually occurred, then it was by the breaking of the bonds between the atoms, and then being re-formed with different atoms. It could be this phenomenon, at the atomic level, which might ultimately limit the gains an individual might make from Penis Enlargement.

some conclusions:

In my opinion, the above explanation scientifically proves that the penis can be truly enlarged - with sufficient effort & persistence.

Furthermore, I believe that sufficient levels of force must be maintained in order to promote the requisite "stresses beyond the tissue's elastic limits, into plastic deformation." I personally hold maximal stretches for 60-90 seconds per set (I use a clock with a second hand). Obviously, as I tire, the tractile forces cannot be maintained, but I often employ fulcrums to ramp up the intensity. And by the time my hands have become quite tired, I've subjected those tissues to many, many minutes of "distortional forces." I believe that, in the scheme of the Time-Force continuum, this is the way to promote plastic deformation.

Of course, hanging is a very powerful approach, which also enables the Penis Enlargement'er to maintain a constant tension since inert objects are dangling from his weinie. And I believe this is why many hangers have reported significant gains, even after many fruitless months of manual Penis Enlargement.

Jelqing, of course, works the blood-holding spongy tissues - which clearly are not "deformable solids." Clamping also maintains the pressure on those spongy tissues. While a traction wrap or ADS will compensate for the low level of force by the tissues being under tractile forces for a greatly extended period of time (again, the Time-Force continuum at work).

Any thoughts, suggestions, tips, criticisms, etc.???

CaptainHooks' reply...only reply so far

Agreed, yet I think there remains enough confusion as to what constitutes a "sufficiently large force" that this is worth going over as much and as often as possible.

We work length when in the flaccid state, and everyone's flaccid length has a capacity, or a limit. If at anytime the tunica is stretched longitudinally beyond it's natural capacity/limit, any amount or intensity of force beyond this should be irrelevant.
Essentially: Providing that "time" is an equal part of the formula, enough force is always enough force to encourage deformation.

If that can be agreed upon the question then becomes one of time, and in what amount(s) does it provide the best/most results.

On its surface one would think "all of the time", if possible? But that ignores other considerations, such as healing and deconditioning.
In other words "It will grow if you make it grow", but only if you do the work it won't grow on it's own. ;)