Using a rubber ball for increased pressure in BathMate

BornInFigi · Jan 1, 2016

Pretty much a relic mod. No reason to use a stress ball or anything else. Wine vac is all you need.

templnite · Jan 1, 2016

Relic means something Important

Perestroyka · Jan 1, 2016

I'll definitely go with a wine vac, cause it's cheap and available in wine stores, but I was lurking around reading about VacuVin stoppers, and guys are talking about they can't get the stopper on valve on their X40, it's kinda difficult, and many of them keep writing about TLC Tugger Cone instead of stopper, unfortunately I have no such cones and I have X30, would that be a problem applying it on X30, or the valves are exactly the same at both BM types?

runningignus · Jan 1, 2016

The valves are the same, I have both the 30 and 40. I can switch them around, the difference is the little switch. The 30 is shorter than the 40. The stopper is always the worst part. You can use the cut piece of tubing as well from any hardware store. You can hold the stopper on the top and just pump, it still works.

Perestroyka · Jan 1, 2016

runningignus;680353 said:
The valves are the same, I have both the 30 and 40. I can switch them around, the difference is the little switch. The 30 is shorter than the 40. The stopper is always the worst part. You can use the cut piece of tubing as well from any hardware store. You can hold the stopper on the top and just pump, it still works.

Thank you man very much! Golden tips from you. Can't wait to purchase VacuVin, I saw dozens of positive experiences from it.

Wonkas_Willy · Jan 2, 2016

Perestroyka;680279 said:
I'll definitely go with a wine vac, cause it's cheap and available in wine stores, but I was lurking around reading about VacuVin stoppers, and guys are talking about they can't get the stopper on valve on their X40, it's kinda difficult, and many of them keep writing about TLC Tugger Cone instead of stopper, unfortunately I have no such cones and I have X30, would that be a problem applying it on X30, or the valves are exactly the same at both BM types?

Take a look at what I did in the past:

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...se-vacuum-pressure-post630561.html#post630561

Not sure if this is what you're talking about but, popping the valve off the BM and putting the winevac on does wonders. I was having problems fitting mine over the BM valve so, I simply took it off. Once a vacuum is on it, it won't (shouldn't) come off unless you pull it off or release the vacuum. Something worth noting, the winevac I had seemed to fit nice and snug in that hole as well. I can't speak for other brands though.

runningignus · Jan 2, 2016

Perestroyka;680356 said:
Thank you man very much! Golden tips from you. Can't wait to purchase VacuVin, I saw dozens of positive experiences from it.

You'll love it. Good luck.

DLD · Jan 7, 2016

pedud;680500 said:
Take a look at what I did in the past:

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...se-vacuum-pressure-post630561.html#post630561

Not sure if this is what you're talking about but, popping the valve off the BM and putting the winevac on does wonders. I was having problems fitting mine over the BM valve so, I simply took it off. Once a vacuum is on it, it won't (shouldn't) come off unless you pull it off or release the vacuum. Something worth noting, the winevac I had seemed to fit nice and snug in that hole as well. I can't speak for other brands though.

Thank for the link, I think the visuals are going to help.

Perestroyka · Jan 8, 2016

pedud;680500 said:
Take a look at what I did in the past:

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...se-vacuum-pressure-post630561.html#post630561

Not sure if this is what you're talking about but, popping the valve off the BM and putting the winevac on does wonders. I was having problems fitting mine over the BM valve so, I simply took it off. Once a vacuum is on it, it won't (shouldn't) come off unless you pull it off or release the vacuum. Something worth noting, the winevac I had seemed to fit nice and snug in that hole as well. I can't speak for other brands though.

How you fill it with water when valve is removed? And how you don't lose vacuum when remove the black latch? I lose vacuum instantly when remove it? This confuses me..

runningignus · Jan 8, 2016

Just like normal, just keep your finger pushing the stopper in so it doesn't pop off, fill up and then put on, apply vacuum and your good. Your just replacing the valve with a different valve. That's all.

templnite · Jan 8, 2016

You point it up, and compress the gaiter once before letting the stopper plug the opening before using the little pump?

runningignus · Jan 8, 2016

Your making it seem more complicated lol. Exactly how you normally do it, except there is another valve. My only problem was just to hold the stopper in place while I filled with water. It'll pop off if you just push down, that's why they glued it down. I just used the VacuVin to suck the air out and the vacuum holds it in place. It's hard to explain. That's why I just used my old sleeve on top so I don't need the stopper anymore.

templnite · Jan 8, 2016

Srry bra idk why I even asked that. Hey I was reading up on wine vacs, and not all them have the click. Some of them have bad reviews because the internals separated when over pumping a bottle. Also turns out they don't even work for keeping wine fresher because the oxygen affects it in a way that once you open the bottle its pretty much on a set countdown.

I was thinking about the harbor freight brake bleeder kit which cost the same as some wine vacs, but is industrial quality

runningignus · Jan 8, 2016

That's what I used to have. Had the gauge and everything. I got to 19hg a few times for about 10 seconds to see how it was, and yeah, no Bueno lol. Those do work good and last a while. Get one if you can. I'll stick with the wine vac until it breaks and get a hand pump like that again. Just have to rig up a system to use it on the X40.

DLD · Jan 8, 2016

runningignus;681540 said:
That's what I used to have. Had the gauge and everything. I got to 19hg a few times for about 10 seconds to see how it was, and yeah, no Bueno lol. Those do work good and last a while. Get one if you can. I'll stick with the wine vac until it breaks and get a hand pump like that again. Just have to rig up a system to use it on the X40.

So you are using the rubber ball now? I guess I am lost here.

runningignus · Jan 8, 2016

doublelongdaddy;681541 said:
So you are using the rubber ball now? I guess I am lost here.

No, templnite has the extreme, I have the regular X40. We're talking about the max from the wine vac VS the rubber ball. He's deciding if he wants to get the harbor freight hand pump with gauge.

DLD · Jan 12, 2016

runningignus;681543 said:
No, templnite has the extreme, I have the regular X40. We're talking about the max from the wine vac VS the rubber ball. He's deciding if he wants to get the harbor freight hand pump with gauge.

I got you, sorry for the ignorant question.

Wonkas_Willy · Jan 17, 2016

Perestroyka;681483 said:
How you fill it with water when valve is removed? And how you don't lose vacuum when remove the black latch? I lose vacuum instantly when remove it? This confuses me..

At no point will you ever remove the valve while using the BM. In the first pic, the valve from the winevac is attached. Just hold the BM along with the valve in one hand and fill it up with the other. With water in the BM and against your body, you can start pumping with the winevac with no problems. Hope that makes sense.

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