LIGHTNING;613718 said:
As a matter of fact my lady was talking to a stripper a couple weeks ago at the bar and and the was claiming how bad shit is there and about 20 minutes lady she died at the bar from an overdose. It was pretty sad.

Wow that's insane. Do you know if it was accidental? Seems like a hell of a way to end a conversation. Poor chick.
 
smerc;613719 said:
Wow that's insane. Do you know if it was accidental? Seems like a hell of a way to end a conversation. Poor chick.

She went in the bathroom and overdosed (I believe meth), came back to the bar and died. My lady still cant get over how she was the last person she talked to before dieing.
 
When a chick becomes a stripper it is usually because they crave attention in the spotlight, need money or are being pimped and the pimp sticks them in clubs to generate extra money on slow nights. I know many strippers that would dance 6-8 hours nightly and make $5 - $30 a night after tipping out, paying house fees and doing hair and makeup in the club. Even though they were making way below minimum wage, they continued to work because they craved attention. However they only wanted attention in the club while on the stage but never wanted to be bothered on the streets by men. They hated attention and would dress down so nobody notices them out in public.

Strippers get mentally abused by drunk men in strip clubs who have too much liquid courage. I've been in relationships with black strippers that were mentally abused nightly by white racist men calling them slaves, niggers, sluts, etc. Saying if I can get you alone I would lock you in a basement and beat you like a nigger slave needs to be beaten. This really damages black women and makes them feel inferior.

I met a really good true southern black women that was mentally damaged this way as well and it took allot of work to gain her trust and build her confidence back up again. She had all the courage in the world to leave her small country town in the deep south (where they say churin instead of children) and came to the big dirty grimy city of Miami to dance. When she was younger (her pre strip club mentality) she always fantasized about being with a white man. During her strip club phase she learned white men are all racist piece of shits and she hated all white men when I met her but I changed that perception. When we were first together if I said any slightly racist remark or anything to remind her of the white men in strip clubs she would get physically abusive on me and this chick was strong

Then I went out with white strippers that expressed how they were mentally abused by black men in the strip club and how black men were always being overly aggressive to the point of almost physically beating them. So those white chicks wanted nothing to do with black dudes.

These are the type of things that happen to dancers in the strip club to make them turn gay or flat out hate opposite sex's of certain races. It is definitely not a place for the weak to try and socialize but to answer, a majority of women I met in strip clubs were gay or bi. That is how they keep their job on a business level and not catch feelings with customers. I have even been to male strip clubs with chicks I hung out with and most of the male strippers were all gay as well. Stripping is one of the most dangerous jobs in the world, you have to deal with multiple people one on one and allot of them are psychos, murderers, gang members, crooks, pimps, etc that will follow you home or try to pop something in your drink if you are not always watching your back.
 
LIGHTNING;613780 said:
When a chick becomes a stripper it is usually because they crave attention in the spotlight, need money or are being pimped and the pimp sticks them in clubs to generate extra money on slow nights. I know many strippers that would dance 6-8 hours nightly and make $5 - $30 a night after tipping out, paying house fees and doing hair and makeup in the club. Even though they were making way below minimum wage, they continued to work because they craved attention. However they only wanted attention in the club while on the stage but never wanted to be bothered on the streets by men. They hated attention and would dress down so nobody notices them out in public.

Strippers get mentally abused by drunk men in strip clubs who have too much liquid courage. I've been in relationships with black strippers that were mentally abused nightly by white racist men calling them slaves, niggers, sluts, etc. Saying if I can get you alone I would lock you in a basement and beat you like a nigger slave needs to be beaten. This really damages black women and makes them feel inferior.

I met a really good true southern black women that was mentally damaged this way as well and it took allot of work to gain her trust and build her confidence back up again. She had all the courage in the world to leave her small country town in the deep south (where they say churin instead of children) and came to the big dirty grimy city of Miami to dance. When she was younger (her pre strip club mentality) she always fantasized about being with a white man. During her strip club phase she learned white men are all racist piece of shits and she hated all white men when I met her but I changed that perception. When we were first together if I said any slightly racist remark or anything to remind her of the white men in strip clubs she would get physically abusive on me and this chick was strong

Then I went out with white strippers that expressed how they were mentally abused by black men in the strip club and how black men were always being overly aggressive to the point of almost physically beating them. So those white chicks wanted nothing to do with black dudes.

These are the type of things that happen to dancers in the strip club to make them turn gay or flat out hate opposite sex's of certain races. It is definitely not a place for the weak to try and socialize but to answer, a majority of women I met in strip clubs were gay or bi. That is how they keep their job on a business level and not catch feelings with customers. I have even been to male strip clubs with chicks I hung out with and most of the male strippers were all gay as well. Stripping is one of the most dangerous jobs in the world, you have to deal with multiple people one on one and allot of them are psychos, murderers, gang members, crooks, pimps, etc that will follow you home or try to pop something in your drink if you are not always watching your back.

i had no idea opposite races were like that to strippers! from what ive seen (in london) that doesnt really happen or you'd get booted out, however im sure it does happen in many other places
 
LIGHTNING;613780 said:
Strippers get mentally abused by drunk men in strip clubs who have too much liquid courage. I've been in relationships with black strippers that were mentally abused nightly by white racist men calling them slaves, niggers, sluts, etc. Saying if I can get you alone I would lock you in a basement and beat you like a nigger slave needs to be beaten. This really damages black women and makes them feel inferior.

woah...that's crazy
 
jordey;613789 said:
i had no idea opposite races were like that to strippers! from what ive seen (in london) that doesnt really happen or you'd get booted out, however im sure it does happen in many other places

I think the USA is much more racist than Europe. I believe they are much more accepting of sexuality over the US too.
 
LIGHTNING;613780 said:
When a chick becomes a stripper it is usually because they crave attention in the spotlight, need money or are being pimped and the pimp sticks them in clubs to generate extra money on slow nights. I know many strippers that would dance 6-8 hours nightly and make $5 - $30 a night after tipping out, paying house fees and doing hair and makeup in the club. Even though they were making way below minimum wage, they continued to work because they craved attention. However they only wanted attention in the club while on the stage but never wanted to be bothered on the streets by men. They hated attention and would dress down so nobody notices them out in public.

Strippers get mentally abused by drunk men in strip clubs who have too much liquid courage. I've been in relationships with black strippers that were mentally abused nightly by white racist men calling them slaves, niggers, sluts, etc. Saying if I can get you alone I would lock you in a basement and beat you like a nigger slave needs to be beaten. This really damages black women and makes them feel inferior.

I met a really good true southern black women that was mentally damaged this way as well and it took allot of work to gain her trust and build her confidence back up again. She had all the courage in the world to leave her small country town in the deep south (where they say churin instead of children) and came to the big dirty grimy city of Miami to dance. When she was younger (her pre strip club mentality) she always fantasized about being with a white man. During her strip club phase she learned white men are all racist piece of shits and she hated all white men when I met her but I changed that perception. When we were first together if I said any slightly racist remark or anything to remind her of the white men in strip clubs she would get physically abusive on me and this chick was strong

Then I went out with white strippers that expressed how they were mentally abused by black men in the strip club and how black men were always being overly aggressive to the point of almost physically beating them. So those white chicks wanted nothing to do with black dudes.

These are the type of things that happen to dancers in the strip club to make them turn gay or flat out hate opposite sex's of certain races. It is definitely not a place for the weak to try and socialize but to answer, a majority of women I met in strip clubs were gay or bi. That is how they keep their job on a business level and not catch feelings with customers. I have even been to male strip clubs with chicks I hung out with and most of the male strippers were all gay as well. Stripping is one of the most dangerous jobs in the world, you have to deal with multiple people one on one and allot of them are psychos, murderers, gang members, crooks, pimps, etc that will follow you home or try to pop something in your drink if you are not always watching your back.
Strip clubs are shitholes, is the message I took from that. Those types of people are the worst and they make this world a shittier place. I know there are probably nicer establishments that have a higher caliber of clientele and dancers but still. Not the nicest places to be.
 
doublelongdaddy;613803 said:
I think the USA is much more racist than Europe. I believe they are much more accepting of sexuality over the US too.
I was just about to say almost the exact same thing. Glad I read all the comments first. I cannot stand the bigotry in this country. And the ridiculous phenomenon of nudity and bad language in movies or tv being so frowned upon but they can show guns, murder, torture, violence of all kinds, and that's all well and good. Just slap a pg-13 rating on it and let the kids see all the blood and guts but god forbid they see a nipple!
 
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tb007;613822 said:
I was just about to say almost the exact same thing. Glad I read all the comments first :) I cannot stand the bigotry in this country. And the ridiculous phenomenon of nudity and bad language in movies or tv being so frowned upon but they can show guns, murder, torture, violence of all kinds, and that's all well and good. Just slap a pg-13 rating on it and let the kids see all the blood and guts but god forbid they see a nipple!

Exactly how I feel. Look at video games kids play nowadays where you drive a car around get out and beat people to the ground, car jack, do drug runs, go to strip clubs, pick up hookers go get laid by the hookers in the alley or a quick blow job. My exs 8 year old nephew knows everything about that game, great influence. What happened to Mario Brothers?

Look at black exploitation reality shows like Love and Hip-Hop Atlanta where it makes black people out to be so fake and rachet and make it ok to have many side chicks and main chicks. What happened to the Cosby Show and Fresh Prince of Belair that taught family values?

There are no more family value shows that people care about because media has brainwashed us all for something else.

Like people don't even socialize face to face anymore or call someone, they rather text or facebook. I love socializing and meeting people face to face and building relationships which may sound foreign to allot of people here.
 
LIGHTNING;613853 said:
There are no more family value shows that people care about because media has brainwashed us all for something else.

Now you know why I watch the Disney Channel:)
 
tb007;613820 said:
Strip clubs are shitholes, is the message I took from that. Those types of people are the worst and they make this world a shittier place. I know there are probably nicer establishments that have a higher caliber of clientele and dancers but still. Not the nicest places to be.

There are really nice strip clubs that are ran really well and serve the higher clientele like celebs and rich people. Those clubs are no touching and topless only. No private dances and serve no hard liquor.

Then there are strip clubs where you can pick any girl and screw them in the back room for 30 mins for $75. The manager of the club even supplies a free rubber for the girl to use. Those are real shit hole operations. I been to about every strip club in Florida and been to many across the usa.

Shit, I even played poker for cash (gambling) on a Sunday, in a strip club that had nudity, fucking in the back and served hard liquor in the Morman state of Utah in Salt Lake City. :/
 
doublelongdaddy;613803 said:
I think the USA is much more racist than Europe. I believe they are much more accepting of sexuality over the US too.

i think its less likely in the big cities aswell. i remember being in a strip club not too long ago, where a guy said a few choice words in one of the strippers face - in no time 3 huge bouncers were showing him the pavement. this is probably just because its a major city (london) and may not be the case in the lesser known places
 
LIGHTNING;613865 said:
There are really nice strip clubs that are ran really well and serve the higher clientele like celebs and rich people. Those clubs are no touching and topless only. No private dances and serve no hard liquor.

That's how it is here. It really cuts down on drunk bullshit that goes down from patrons. Our bouncers don't look all that rough, but they do watch w/ that eagle/evil eye. I had a dancer get slightly mad at me (it wasn't that bad) after I held her up when she was falling from a hand/head stand (she wasn't on stage and she was doing it in front of me). I was younger than her and only touched for about 2-3 seconds before she gathered her balance. Every now and then in a price dance or a small fee dance, they will show more and even grind their bare stuff on your pants/ETC.

Some clubs out in the boonies are more laxed about this and I sometimes see regulars grabbing ass/tits, but there is usually no bouncers for these types of clubs. The women don't seem to mind in that particular instance. These guys are usually in the much older range of ages.
 
doublelongdaddy;613803 said:
I think the USA is much more racist than Europe. I believe they are much more accepting of sexuality over the US too.
I think you are right
 
smerc;613892 said:
That's how it is here. It really cuts down on drunk bullshit that goes down from patrons.

Some of my favorite people become monsters when they drink alcohol. I really have grown to hate alcohol because of this reason. I used to be a straight up drunk but with my distain for the changes my friends go through drinking I have become very controlled in my alcohol intake. I have a glass of wine everyday but nothing more except on Sundays at my Mothers house for dinner I may have another glass at dinner. For me the greatest accomplishment in anything that is addictive is exercising moderation and discipline. I do not want anything to have control over me, that is a big weakness in my book.
 
doublelongdaddy;614198 said:
Some of my favorite people become monsters when they drink alcohol. I really have grown to hate alcohol because of this reason. I used to be a straight up drunk but with my distain for the changes my friends go through drinking I have become very controlled in my alcohol intake. I have a glass of wine everyday but nothing more except on Sundays at my Mothers house for dinner I may have another glass at dinner. For me the greatest accomplishment in anything that is addictive is exercising moderation and discipline. I do not want anything to have control over me, that is a big weakness in my book.

That would be me. I became a complete asshole when I got drunk. It did somewhat help me in a big phase in life when i hung out in bad clubs with bad people around me. But the alcohol led me to those bad clubs anyway. Nobody could get close to me because i hated everyone when I was under the influence. I was a complete asshole that looked real intimidating so nobody would come next to me. Even strippers at strip clubs hated me so it saved me a fair amount of money from getting robbed by them.

However, whenever my lady has a couple drinks she loves everyone and women start thinking she is a lesbian because she is too friendly and open with girls that dont act that way. Alcohol brings out our deepest caged up feelings. I have a friend that claims not to be into guys but when he is drunk he is grabbing dudes asses and I saw him sticking his tongue down a tranvestites mouth in a bar one time. However the next day he denies everything.

After hanging around drunks while being sober i started seeing how irritating a drunk can be especially when playing poker. Thanks to the help of DLD and my Lady I found a hobby to replace going out to clubs and parties and drinking like I used to do. Don't get me wrong I still have some beers here and there but I have learned to moderate from drinking hard and heavy to socially having beer at a concert or something.
 
LIGHTNING;614217 said:
That would be me. I became a complete asshole when I got drunk. It did somewhat help me in a big phase in life when i hung out in bad clubs with bad people around me. But the alcohol led me to those bad clubs anyway. Nobody could get close to me because i hated everyone when I was under the influence. I was a complete asshole that looked real intimidating so nobody would come next to me. Even strippers at strip clubs hated me so it saved me a fair amount of money from getting robbed by them.

However, whenever my lady has a couple drinks she loves everyone and women start thinking she is a lesbian because she is too friendly and open with girls that dont act that way. Alcohol brings out our deepest caged up feelings. I have a friend that claims not to be into guys but when he is drunk he is grabbing dudes asses and I saw him sticking his tongue down a tranvestites mouth in a bar one time. However the next day he denies everything.

After hanging around drunks while being sober i started seeing how irritating a drunk can be especially when playing poker. Thanks to the help of DLD and my Lady I found a hobby to replace going out to clubs and parties and drinking like I used to do. Don't get me wrong I still have some beers here and there but I have learned to moderate from drinking hard and heavy to socially having beer at a concert or something.

thats brilliant that youve kicked the habit, well done
 
Well the devil is real alcohol and drugs are his friends one thing leads to another
 
doublelongdaddy;614198 said:
Some of my favorite people become monsters when they drink alcohol. I really have grown to hate alcohol because of this reason. I used to be a straight up drunk but with my distain for the changes my friends go through drinking I have become very controlled in my alcohol intake. I have a glass of wine everyday but nothing more except on Sundays at my Mothers house for dinner I may have another glass at dinner. For me the greatest accomplishment in anything that is addictive is exercising moderation and discipline. I do not want anything to have control over me, that is a big weakness in my book.

Same way where I'm at. I can't even go to certain bars due to the obnoxious crowds that frequent.

Are you drinking wine for the health benefits or for other purposes. Never really been a fan of wine. I had a good merlot once, but I can't really recall the brand.
 
doublelongdaddy;614198 said:
Some of my favorite people become monsters when they drink alcohol. I really have grown to hate alcohol because of this reason. I used to be a straight up drunk but with my distain for the changes my friends go through drinking I have become very controlled in my alcohol intake. I have a glass of wine everyday but nothing more except on Sundays at my Mothers house for dinner I may have another glass at dinner. For me the greatest accomplishment in anything that is addictive is exercising moderation and discipline. I do not want anything to have control over me, that is a big weakness in my book.
I am very similar. I despise alcohol and pills because I've seen so many good people get ruined, some of them very close to home. I used to get drunk, take pills, do coke, smoke cigs... everything. But I just up and quit the cigs one day and the rest took a few more years but I don't do shit now except smoke/vaporize weed and have a glass of cognac, scotch, or good red wine a few times a week. Sometimes more. Just depends.
 
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