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It's simple - you have the impression that his ass being messed with during sex is somehow gay, simply because it's his ass and you associate this with gay men, but it's just a body part. If he were to rim his wife's asshole - something I presume gay men do all the time - does that seem gay to you? Or if his wife rims him? The only way to be gay is to be attracted to another man and do something sexual with them - there's nothing he could do with his wife that is 'gay.'

So far as a dick giving you power, whatever floats your boat. It's actually a prety tiny appendage on your body and power and sex are mostly pyschological. If you have to be the one doing the thrusting to enjoy sex, then rock on. But realize that not everybody is going to see it that way.

For instance, there are gay men that take it in the ass all the time that could mop the floor with you physically, and I doubt they'd react well to being told they have no power sexually. In fact, there may even be some women that could do the same. Basically, this shit is all just in your head. Lot's of people don't need or don't subscribe to the rigidly defined gender expectations.

Why isn't shoving the dildo up there not enough. Why use a strapon? No its not gay to do things with your ass but getting fucked; that's different. Enough about the constant arguement as it is going nowhere we could go on forever.

If both partners are willing then nothing should be out of bounds sex wise,3lee i say go for it.

sed26 said:

Why isn't shoving the dildo up there not enough. Why use a strapon? No its not gay to do things with your ass but getting fucked; that's different. Enough about the constant arguement as it is going nowhere we could go on forever.

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A women is performing a sex act on a man and if it gives him pleasure then WHY not,sex is something to enjoy not to to be uptight about.

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I'm just curious why you're so opposed to this. What is the deal with you and needing to be the one doing the fucking? I find it interesting, and I may be putting words in your mouth but it seems like you find the idea of the woman being in charge really threatening. I mean, if she's sticking a dildo in his ass with her her hand or wearing it around her waist, really, what's the difference?

The boundary you're drawing here is entirely mental and it seems like it's deeply rooted in the need to be dominant over women. I'm not judging that, but you haven't really explained why what 3lee is up to grosses you out so much beyond the fact that it seems to give the woman too much control or seems 'gay.' Why is a woman taking over in the sack such a bad thing?

I know that everybody is not the same and he has the right to do things that he wants to do. I love my masculinity and no one will convince me to be otherwise. I apoligize if I sound as if I'm comming off hard, no its not gay since its with a woman. I may be wrong but it seems as if you're having a problem with me liking to be dominant in the bedroom. I'll never accept anything up my ass and nothing can convince me otherwise, unless its for medical reasons. That's just me. The only way women are in charge in the bedroom that I don't mind at all is being on top and in control or any other way not involving my ass. I'm not gonna knock your hustle and tell you not to do it its just my opinion. You have to accept the fact that there really are some guys that won't be convinced to play with their ass, the same as some women out there refuse to give oral sex. It seems that you guys want to switch roles and see how it feels on the woman's side. There's nothing wrong with that at all but I never wanted to do things like that. For me, there are plenty of other ways to be adventurous, so you have your way and I have mine. I don't see the meaning of us both debating the subject so much, it seems as if you have a problem with me being a dominant person. It may sound uptight to you that I'm not into things like that. But as far as that goes, there's nothing that a woman can ask me to do to her that I won't do, wether its giving a rimjob,69 or anything of the sort. I'm just not in to things that involves anything up my ass.

Eh, I think you're taking this all wrong. I actually don't particularly like the idea of getting fucked in the ass by a woman or even having anything up there. For me it would be more pain than pleasure. The closest thing I've ever experienced to that is when a girl drunkenly tried to snake a finger up there during a blowjob, which I quickly put a stop to. It doesn't gross me out and I've certainly fucked women in the ass, but it doesn't turn me on in the slightest to be the recipient of anything.

I was just curious about your strong opposition to the idea - you did proclaim pretty vigorously that it seemed weird or 'gay,' and talked about how you would never let a woman demasulanize you in that fashion. You've since explained that you just need to feel dominant over women in the bedroom for whatever reason, and that's cool, that's all I was asking about. Before when you questioned why the hell 3lee would want to do such a thing when there were so many other sexual options it gave me the impression that you had some kind of serious problem with what he was up to with hsi wife, as if you were questioning why anybody would even consider it. I was interested to know why you feel that way. I don't really have a problem with what 3lee, you, or any other consenting adults want to do sexually, I was just asking for curiosity's sake - nothing personal whatsoever.

I was also curious about you being dismayed by the 'gay' aspect of it, since I couldn't help but notice you also started a thread about being attracted to shemales, which seemed like a weird contradiction. Finding a woman with a penis sexy seems much closer to homosexual feelings than having a woman stick something in your ass. So far as masculinity, as I said, I don't think it robs anybody of their manhood to engage in activities like what 3lee is up to - that stuff is all just in our heads. As I mentioned, there are probably men that like their wives to fuck them in the ass who are also the zenith of masulinity and dominance, they might just happen to get off on kinkier stuff like that. I just don't understand how it makes anyone less of a man to do that.

It seemed like you were really hung up on some rigid gender roles and really bothered by 3lee epxerimenting with them with his wife, but maybe I got the wrong impression. Either way your comments, combined with the interest in shemales seemed a little strange, so I was just asking, not accusing. Sorry if it came off that way. I wasn't trying to really debate anything with you, but rather just asking why you feel that way and saying that I disagree.

sikdogg said:

I don't think i can ever let anyone fuck my ass... however, i have thought of getting a strap-on so that i can wear it just above my dick and double fuck my wife. From doggy, i could fuck her pussy with my dick and her ass with the strap-on... i bet she'd go crazy from it.

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Good one. In another thread, I called for using a dildo or two in addition to your own dick so you can fill up all three holes. But, the strap on would definitely help keep some hands free.

Stridge, I don't know about eeverybody else, but I have said from the beginning "whatever floats your boat" and I agree that they should do what pleases them both as a couple. I just shared how I would handle it and why and what I have heard from people who have tried this.

For me, this would be me taking a loss of enjoyment in order to give more joy to the woman ... not mutual enjoyment ... and the amount I'd have to take is not worth it.

If my wife or GF was extremely adamant about wanting to fuck somebody in the ass with a strap on, I'd tell her we'd have to invite another woman into the bedroom for that purpose so we could run a train:
me > GF/wife > 2nd woman.

PenilePersist said:

Good one. In another thread, I called for using a dildo or two in addition to your own dick so you can fill up all three holes. But, the strap on would definitely help keep some hands free.

Stridge, I don't know about eeverybody else, but I have said from the beginning "whatever floats your boat" and I agree that they should do what pleases them both as a couple. I just shared how I would handle it and why and what I have heard from people who have tried this.

For me, this would be me taking a loss of enjoyment in order to give more joy to the woman ... not mutual enjoyment ... and the amount I'd have to take is not worth it.

If my wife or GF was extremely adamant about wanting to fuck somebody in the ass with a strap on, I'd tell her we'd have to invite another woman into the bedroom for that purpose so we could run a train:
me > GF/wife > 2nd woman.

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I don't think any guy is automatically obligated to do anything like this just because his wife is interested and I never said as much. While some things that are common place and not particularly unpleasant like oral sex can be expected of partners to a degree in a healthy sexual relationship, so long as it's understood that it's expected, things like your wife wanting to fuck you with a strap-on are a bigger compromise. I would never suggest that a guy that's not willing to do that is somehow weird or close-minded - I wouldn't want to do it myself. I was just curious about the slightly revulsed posts discussing the surrendering of masculinity and such.

I've never experimented with it too much of a degree, but I don't find the idea of letting my girlfriend or any other woman take charge in the bedroom to be a particular threat to my manhood. The idea isn't a particular turn-on either, but I was just curious why the idea of being in a subordinate role freaked some guys out as I didn't have that reaction at all. I was also intrigued that somebody would suggest that there was a gay element to what a happily married guy was doing with his wife, which I pointed out.

Please point out to me where I said exactly that "Doing strap-on sex is gay". I said it would seem like gay sex to me, not calling it gay. Secondly the shemales post. I don't like shemales as women with a penis. I specifically stated that some are very attractive "with clothes on" and that I wouldn't have sex with them. I just found it curious that it was the #1 fetish right now so I brought it up. Also I never said that naked shemales turned me on. I don't find anything gay about that because even though you know its a man that has been changed, your eyes still percieve them as a woman.

I must not have read the shemales post very carefully, my mistake. I believe your exact words were 'seems gay,' as you stated. I took this to mean that you thought a man being penetrated in that fashion was indicative of homosexual desire or something to that effect. I frequently hear guys stating that certain sexual acts done with a woman somehow make you gay (see the infamous Sopranos episode where Uncle Junior is derided when it comes to light that he likes eating out his girlfriend), and I've always disagreed with that idea. Again, I wasn't trying to push your buttons. I was just stating my point on it and asking why you thought that way about it. Clearly we miscommunicated.

Don't worry I was merely stating my point. None of it was taken personally. There's nothing you can do with a woman and call it gay. After all it is a woman.

Indeed - Maybe if a guy dressed her up in his clothes, insisted she fuck him in the ass with a strap-on, and also requested that he be allowed to call her Dave or Steve while she fucked him there might be some borderline issues . . . but I digress.

Alright enough! OK I dont have to explain this but I will say this....I am one tough fellow. I can bench press 315 pounds twice. I am only 5'5" and 178lbs. I have 6% bodyfat. I can knock over a 150lb punching bag with 100lb stand if it isnt bolted down with one punch.. I am very athletic and very tough. I am a man that is not gay at all. The thought of it makes me puke. My wife is a women. If she wants to do this and I am willing, then so be it. I will tell you this much...and this is a fact. If anyone thinks Im gay in anyway for doing this, you are totally wrong. I am a very kinky guy in the bed. Besides weve been married for 13 years now, some adventure is needed hahaha. Years ago, I did think it was gay myself, but relized it wasnt. There are alot of nerves in that area that feel good. Dont miss out on something just because it seems odd at first. I will never be with another man EVER, but my wife can do anything to me she wants.

Dude,
After that I just gotta throw this in:

Wadda they call hemorrhoids in San Francisco?
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Speed bumps !

Sorry man....I just hadda do it.

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Dude,
After that I just gotta throw this in:

Wadda they call hemorrhoids in San Francisco?
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Speed bumps !

Sorry man....I just hadda do it.

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WOW, you guys have to let people be themselves. If he wants to be packed in the ass by his wife with a dil, then let him be himself.

Du, I thought it was gay at first too, but then worked on it with my wife with the kegel training and viola, I found it would help my orgasms. While we do some packin', she puts the viberator up my ass and I guess it hits the "Male G-Spot" - prostate and holy fuck man, I spew out like a fucken volcano !

My wife likes to fuck with me, cause I love holding my load for as long as I can. She then lets me fuck her asshole and she does her squeezing thing and geeeeeeeeeeez, her asshole is like a fucken vice - tight gripping. That just fucken killz me !

But if any of your were ever in a Swingers Club, you'd think this was the "norm". It sounds normal to me as my wife and I have seen and/or experienced it all at one time or another.

Enjoy getting your ass packed and post some pics ! I cant wait! LOL

The thought that somes to my mind is that after she's fucked him with a strap-on, she might not look at him the same way she does now.

haha i hope she will look at me with love and respect as that is what she wanted to do. I know my wife and that is how it will be... Thanks for all the input.