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I just read somewhere that during pumping, one shouldn`t let too much skin get sucked in, is this true? I use oil and moisturizer so alot of skin glides in naturally for me. Do you know anything about this? Should I only oil up my penis? instead of balls and around the suction area? If so I will get much less expansion and edema ofc.
 
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I just read somewhere that during pumping, one shouldn`t let too much skin get sucked in, is this true? I use oil and moisturizer so alot of skin glides in naturally for me. Do you know anything about this? Should I only oil up my penis? instead of balls and around the suction area? If so I will get much less expansion and edema ofc.

if you’re cut I wouldn’t worry about how much skin goes in but if you are uncut you may want to limit that so you don’t end up with excessive skin stretch. Many men will pre-lube themselves before pumping and that is a good thing. But you need to be careful with keeping the valve of your pump clean and without dirt which oils will pick up. If your valve becomes clogged your vacuum is reduced.
 
if you’re cut I wouldn’t worry about how much skin goes in but if you are uncut you may want to limit that so you don’t end up with excessive skin stretch. Many men will pre-lube themselves before pumping and that is a good thing. But you need to be careful with keeping the valve of your pump clean and without dirt which oils will pick up. If your valve becomes clogged your vacuum is reduced.
I'm uncut, good thing you warned me about the valve in case I run into that issue!

Btw, I pumped yesterday and I pumped out some water and I realised that I'm not actually filling the tube, the water gives an optical illusion so that It looks bigger than what it really is inside...
 
I'm uncut, good thing you warned me about the valve in case I run into that issue!

Btw, I pumped yesterday and I pumped out some water and I realised that I'm not actually filling the tube, the water gives an optical illusion so that It looks bigger than what it really is inside...

Water can magnify the size of anything. I’m glad that you’re taking notice of the foreskin issue
 
Water can magnify the size of anything. I’m glad that you’re taking notice of the foreskin issue
Yeah it was disappointing to realise but it makes sense because exiting the pump I'm never as big as from the enhanced water illusion.

Yeah, I'll have to try one day with not letting all the skin into the bathmate and see how it goes.
 
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Water can magnify the size of anything. I’m glad that you’re taking notice of the foreskin issue
I recently found a webiste, The Visualiser - The Cock Comparison site where I could actually put in my measurements and compare it to the average, and customize to show my natural size compared to my goal size. This was so awesome, it was such a fun and inspiring thing to see visually how much I need to grow and what it will look like.
 
I recently found a webiste, The Visualiser - The Cock Comparison site where I could actually put in my measurements and compare it to the average, and customize to show my natural size compared to my goal size. This was so awesome, it was such a fun and inspiring thing to see visually how much I need to grow and what it will look like.

Yes we have use that site for many years and it’s very sobering when you really get a look at what you want and what you have. I’ve always wanted to create one of these programs for the brotherhood but it always gets put back on the back burner.
 
Yes we have use that site for many years and it’s very sobering when you really get a look at what you want and what you have. I’ve always wanted to create one of these programs for the brotherhood but it always gets put back on the back burner.
Yes absolutely, it gives a new clear perspective on it. Would be cool, but as long as that site exists then i guess that's plenty.

I'm considering buying the mityvac one day, i want to try it, even though I can't stand the idea of a hose and hand pump with gauge, bathmate is so much simpler. I want to see if the mityvac will bring different expansion and growth, so one day I'll buy it!
 
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Yes absolutely, it gives a new clear perspective on it. Would be cool, but as long as that site exists then i guess that's plenty.

I'm considering buying the mityvac one day, i want to try it, even though I can't stand the idea of a hose and hand pump with gauge, bathmate is so much simpler. I want to see if the mityvac will bring different expansion and growth, so one day I'll buy it!

It is a mighty good pump!
 
It is a mighty good pump!
I can't wait! I just found a post from another forum and he gained 1 inch length in 3-4 months by using the bathmate, he startet at 15 min per session but gradually increased to 50 min during these months.

I want to try the same, it was a great idea to increase the time in the pump over time, I haven't thought of this! So simple and so obvious really, I'm looking forward to what this method will will bring. I will ofc start clamping again after using the bathmate.

I can update you on this if you want to DLD as time goes by.
 
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Also, what do you know of supplementing with Collagen for penis growth? Do you know if it helps`?
I've been thinking the same thing lately. I figure it can't hurt but I don't know if there will be any real benefits.
 
I've been thinking the same thing lately. I figure it can't hurt but I don't know if there will be any real benefits.
I can't find anything hardly on collagen and the penis online.. I'll read some more and order some powder and give it a try if it can help growth.
 
I’m not sure because I have never used it, I would search the forms for men who have used it
 
I’m not sure because I have never used it, I would search the forms for men who have used it
Have done so and am still reading! Just finished a session with pumping and clamping, now my girth is 7.08!! Its amazing, I love this stuff!!!!
 
I’m not sure because I have never used it, I would search the forms for men who have used it
Just got my hydromax extreme 11!! Will test it tomorrow! It was fucking huge! I will also try out wearing a cockring in side the 11 and x40 just to see what happens, maybe it gives better expansion, i dont know but will try!
 
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Just got my hydromax extreme 11!! Will test it tomorrow! It was fucking huge! I will also try out wearing a cockring in side the 11 and x40 just to see what happens, maybe it gives better expansion, i dont know but will try!

Can you take some pictures of it so we can see it in the group? I have not received one yet so I’m very curious.
 
Can you take some pictures of it so we can see it in the group? I have not received one yet so I’m very curious.
X40 next to the x11 and another shot of it, it`s a big difference between them.
 

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X40 next to the x11 and another shot of it, it`s a big difference between them.

Wow, that’s awesome. I’m gonna ask lightning sent me one out right away hopefully at a discount LOL. I can’t wait to hear your reviews over the next few weeks.
 
Wow, that’s awesome. I’m gonna ask lightning sent me one out right away hopefully at a discount LOL. I can’t wait to hear your reviews over the next few weeks.
Yeah, the opening is almost too big actually.. Cool that you`re getting a bathmate too! Yeah, I have only used it once this week, but will for sure get more used to it as time goes by, it`s extremely difficult to pump with my hands, its very hard and rigid, so using the hand pump was a must on the x11.
 
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