I told everyone not to post products in the main forum! PLEASE READ!

[templnite]

I appreciate the feedback YKM gave on my hanger but at the same time, you never came to me for help. Even after I read your "review" on your site and emailed you. Rather you gave a VERY one sided "review" and made it sound like I deliberately sell a flawed product and like it is cumbersome to use my hanger due to how you must wrap to get it to work for you. Your site actually reminds me more of that "ripoff report"/bribe site than an honest review site. Men who actually come to me for coaching can usually get my hanger to work. As a last case scenario, I give refunds, but that is unusual.

Oh man last minute editing everything makes sense now the vac hangers, deleted videos, ykm reviews, deadwood187. This is a coordinated attack on the brotherhood!
It all started with ykm becoming the videos guy here earning him the recognition he needs to launch his site, and then deleting the MoS videos to give that site some leverage. ( source of ykm's power)

Then he comes to mattersofsize along with deadwood187 (ykm behind seven proxies), and they start a vac-hanger thread which is immediately shot down by all us veterans.
Seeing that the brotherhoods knowledge is too strong they mount an attack on our credibility with a troll thread. The whole point of said thread was to label MoS as a vampiric corporation with the only goal of banking on the insecurity of the brothers.

If you guys remember I said ykm, and deadwood187 were trying some funny stuff, and deadwood lashed out at me immediately. Well now with deadwood defeated, and ykm on his last limbs he's trying to link to his site as much as possible before he's sent to oblivion.

I'm sorry ykm but I cannot stand for this travesty. MoS is our home, and you will not touch even one hair of her fair body without retribution >

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/87437-vachanger-any-one-gain-using-lower-weights-5-lbs-and-under-and-longer-times.html
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/87433-sometimes-i-dont-believe-4.html
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/87456-sorry-guys-but-i-am-a-fraud-i-lied-about-pe-4.html

 

[superman05xx]

Let me add this to the original post. If you are using a product in your routine and progress thread feel free to post it, this is the exception to the rule. But also, please, post it in the PE Products and Reviews. This will help us see what is working and what is not and make choices to new equipment.

I was just about to ask about this and since you cleared this up, this all seems perfectly reasonable.

Growing up as a child, I had problems with authority. But it took me reaching adulthood, where I found proper authority without arbitrary reasoning, that authority was no longer a problem for me. I believe the authority DLD is exercising here makes complete sense in response to the forum. What I mean is something I witnessed myself here: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...and-sexual-products/87476-jelqing-device.html

If anyone hasn't seen that thread, I went through the trouble of doing a little research and exposing tbone350's spamming. For the unaware, Tbone350 is an unchecked spammer exisiting on MOS for several years. It wasn't so much that the tbone350 was mentioning products that annoyed me, it was the fact that he was doing it deceptively.

Forums by their very nature are organic, growing and changing because people come and go. New rulings have to be made from time to time (because of the organic nature of a forum) to keep the intregrity of the forum. Support this guys.

 

[superman05xx]

Oh man last minute editing everything makes sense now the vac hangers, deleted videos, ykm reviews, deadwood187. This is a coordinated attack on the brotherhood!
It all started with ykm becoming the videos guy here earning him the recognition he needs to launch his site, and then deleting the MoS videos to give that site some leverage. ( source of ykm's power)

Then he comes to mattersofsize along with deadwood187 (ykm behind seven proxies), and they start a vac-hanger thread which is immediately shot down by all us veterans.
Seeing that the brotherhoods knowledge is too strong they mount an attack on our credibility with a troll thread. The whole point of said thread was to label MoS as a vampiric corporation with the only goal of banking on the insecurity of the brothers.

If you guys remember I said ykm, and deadwood187 were trying some funny stuff, and deadwood lashed out at me immediately. Well now with deadwood defeated, and ykm on his last limbs he's trying to link to his site as much as possible before he's sent to oblivion.

I'm sorry ykm but I cannot stand for this travesty. MoS is our home, and you will not touch even one hair of her fair body without retribution >

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...weights-5-lbs-and-under-and-longer-times.html
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/87433-sometimes-i-dont-believe-4.html
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...-guys-but-i-am-a-fraud-i-lied-about-pe-4.html

To Templnite and YKM .... you both really need to stop. I don't understand why you go on and on. Templnite, YKM clearly made a complete paragraph explaining his understanding of the rules and how he thought them to be reasonable but you are being an instigator. YKM, you should not respond to templnite because it take two people to argue. You both going back and forth is not setting a good example for the brotherhood. I have been a member on MOS since 2009 but I sat quietly in the shadows until about 3 years ago before I started talking. Why? BC I was not comfortable to do so. Both of your arguing back and forth makes this a place where people like who I used to be would never feel comfortable sharing and might even not want to join. So I ask you both to consider your actions more carefully because I guarantee it is effecting others.

 

[templnite]

Mathew 21:12
Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves.

Hey man when god saw his father's temple desecrated he wasn't about to sit quietly in the shadows. I'm just defending MoS no? Just because you were afraid for three years is good enough reason to take away my voice? Please be reasonable my brother

 

[kyomoto]

I guess you did not read the thread we made last month. There is absolutely no restrictions on posting products if they are posted in the right forum. MOS will not be a prostitute for other products. If you find a product that you feel will be beneficial to the Brotherhood post it in the PE Products Review section and if there is enough support behind it I will invite them to be a partner. We put our partners through the most strict vetting before they become an affiliate. We require special pricing, a representative on the forum to answer questions and a warranty and product that are solid. When people make posts about other products in the wrong forum it makes it appear that we support this and then when someone gets hurt or the product does not work they come after MOS. This rule is very simple and for very good reason. I have protected the integrity of the Brotherhood for 14 years and I am not about to stop!

I didn't but i read your posts and I never said that they're completely off of this site. I said that at least we have the freedom in that subsection you mentioned.

DLD relax on Youknowme. You still have some grudge on him for believing that he deleted his videos. Don't hold grudges for something that wasn't even true. DLD relax he's just saying the same thing I said and I don't see you talking shit to me. Lets just be adults here and calm down about this. No banning should take place for him since he was not warned. Warning first then ban.


YKM-Please do not waste your time with templnite. This guy will soon end up in so much bad karma I can guarantee it.

 

[pogzee]

DLD what i feel it depends where the max people are on this site and its forum and people are in this forum so people want more replies ....maybe thats the only reason..

for example if i post a thread in the "other" forum section i will get only 2 replies but here i will get 20

 

[superman05xx]

Mathew 21:12
Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves.

Hey man when god saw his father's temple desecrated he wasn't about to sit quietly in the shadows. I'm just defending MoS no? Just because you were afraid for three years is good enough reason to take away my voice? Please be reasonable my brother

No, you are not just having a voice. And yes, me being silent for three years should be enough for you to reconsider your worthless bickering bc if regular people don't find it in themselves to speak up, which (correct me if I am wrong DLD) is the majority of members to this site, how less likely are members to speak up in an hostile environment? Secondly you are not Jesus cleaning out the temple that was being polluted by people selling goods and causing the temple goers to not focus on God. No you are here .... and the people you oppose are here ... and you are all just bickering while all here together. Thirdly, how do you know it is DLD's will for you to clean out MOS? Did you ask him?

I have noticed you enjoy quoting the bible, I myself am also enjoy the bible so I will leave you with a verse to consider if you are implimenting it as well as you could:

“Remind the people to be subject to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready to do whatever is good, to slander no one, to be peaceable and considerate, and always to be gentle toward everyone.”
Titus‬ 3:1-2‬

 

[templnite]

You have very strong opinions, and are very passionate, and I think that's the main reason why you chose to remain quiet all that time. You knew people weren't gonna be down with that, so its better to be silent, and you're a wise person for doing so.

However this is open forum, and what I did there on that last post was no different than what you did to that jelqing device guy. Hell you went as far as showing off your work even after mike closed the thread XD you guys crack me up seriously. The reason I don't seek attention like that is because of the brotherhood which makes me stronger as I converse with it so I not insecure

 

[superman05xx]

You have very strong opinions, and are very passionate, and I think that's the main reason why you chose to remain quiet all that time. You knew people weren't gonna be down with that, so its better to be silent, and you're a wise person for doing so.

However this is open forum, and what I did there on that last post was no different than what you did to that jelqing device guy. Hell you went as far as showing off your work even after mike closed the thread XD you guys crack me up seriously. The reason I don't seek attention like that is because of the brotherhood which makes me stronger as I converse with it so I not insecure

Down with what I ask? And no it is completely different. It is different because I didn't slander him, I provided links and proof to protect YKM and unknowning members. I showed the thread in this thread only because of the dissession members may have been having due to this thread as to why DLD came to his conclusion. Secondly, I didn't know the other thread was closed, since it is in my inbox area. You don't seek attention but you almost every other post I see from you is you brown nosing .... right. I don't have strong opinions, I'm just the unsilent majority who is tired of the bullcrap. I call bullcrap when it is bullcrap.

 

[templnite]

Ok perfect then both our posts were on topic, and no one is out of line. that's why you accused me of bickering, and slander only to call me a ass licker, and try to pick a fight with me? Yall are too funny XD

 

[superman05xx]

Ok perfect then both our posts were on topic, and no one is out of line. that's why you accused me of bickering, and slander only to call me a ass licker, and try to pick a fight with me? Yall are too funny XD

I have no idea what you are talking about. Me giving my opinion of you being a brown noser (by repeatedly demanding members to only trust MOS affliate products) is to point out your seeming inconsistency of wanting no attention. Also you have made over 3000 posts since June, which I applaud; however, I would assume a person wouldn't don't do that and at the same time want no attention. My "picking a fight with you" as you seem to think of it, is me requesting civility between you and YKM. Yes, I am very funny, I'll be here all week. But seriously you and YKM should quit going after each other because you seem highly in favor of MOS and must have seen the reasoning to my statement of making this a hostile place.

 

[templnite]

Yeah man lets stop with the labeling it doesn't work like my mentor Jake said. We should be cheering for him to get better instead of trying to protect ykm :blush:. After all ykm does have his own voice, and ultimately is what helps or harms him. Don't take up for him bra he knows what hes after

 

[youknowme123321]

tempinite, now you're lying that I'm deadwood. It's really become ridiculous dealing with you. Some people can't be made to see anything more then what they want to see. I will no longer converse with you other then to say, "please don't talk to or about me."

I'm taking your advice kyomoto and superman. superman you probably should too. Thanks though. Reading your messages with him showed me what my messages with him look like. We were talking with a wall with a Jesus picture on it

 

[kyomoto]

tempinite, now you're lying that I'm deadwood. It's really become ridiculous dealing with you. Some people can't be made to see anything more then what they want to see. I will no longer converse with you other then to say, "please don't talk to or about me."

I'm taking your advice kyomoto and superman. superman you probably should too. Thanks though. Reading your messages with him showed me what my messages with him look like. We were talking with a wall with a Jesus picture on it

It can turn into an endless argument over something that is really nothing. Templnite likes to argue. Let him argue with himself. I've learned to ignore him and I've messaged DLD telling him that templnite is being more offensive than needed and asked him to settle him down. HE doesn't bother me much anymore, I suggest you ask DLD for the same. The more templnite goes on with and the more we complain about him, the more that will be done.

DLD what i feel it depends where the max people are on this site and its forum and people are in this forum so people want more replies ....maybe thats the only reason..

for example if i post a thread in the "other" forum section i will get only 2 replies but here i will get 20

Yeah I agree. This section has more activity than the rest of the sub sections

 

[youknowme123321]

DLD what i feel it depends where the max people are on this site and its forum and people are in this forum so people want more replies ....maybe thats the only reason..

for example if i post a thread in the "other" forum section i will get only 2 replies but here i will get 20

Yeah I agree. This section has more activity than the rest of the sub sections

I agree as well. When I went looking for the tools review category I was a bit astonished at how many categories there are

 

[Aimingforthetop]

To Templnite and YKM .... you both really need to stop. I don't understand why you go on and on. Templnite, YKM clearly made a complete paragraph explaining his understanding of the rules and how he thought them to be reasonable but you are being an instigator. YKM, you should not respond to templnite because it take two people to argue. You both going back and forth is not setting a good example for the brotherhood. I have been a member on MOS since 2009 but I sat quietly in the shadows until about 3 years ago before I started talking. Why? BC I was not comfortable to do so. Both of your arguing back and forth makes this a place where people like who I used to be would never feel comfortable sharing and might even not want to join. So I ask you both to consider your actions more carefully because I guarantee it is effecting others.

This! This is the point some people don't seem to get.

I would like peopleto take a good long look at themself and ask themself if their behavior has a positive or negative effect on the brotherhood?

I have the last couple of days continued to see the same few guys mud throwing at eachother again and again.

And i have warned about this before aswell!

I will get in contact with the other mods and DLD. And find out what further actions we should do

As it is now this is not beneficial for the brotherhood something needs to change.

 

[DLD]

This! This is the point some people don't seem to get.

I would like peopleto take a good long look at themself and ask themself if their behavior has a positive or negative effect on the brotherhood?

I have the last couple of days continued to see the same few guys mud throwing at eachother again and again.

And i have warned about this before aswell!

I will get in contact with the other mods and DLD. And find out what further actions we should do

As it is now this is not beneficial for the brotherhood something needs to change.

If AIM says your out, you are out. Show respect to the Brotherhood!

 

[kyomoto]

This! This is the point some people don't seem to get.

I would like peopleto take a good long look at themself and ask themself if their behavior has a positive or negative effect on the brotherhood?

I have the last couple of days continued to see the same few guys mud throwing at eachother again and again.

And i have warned about this before aswell!

I will get in contact with the other mods and DLD. And find out what further actions we should do

As it is now this is not beneficial for the brotherhood something needs to change.

Thank you for understanding

 

[Longth]

I'm going to guess something like the CRandtowel or heating pads wouldn't be included in this due to there being a lack of a safety concern for either of them really. I could be wrong but I'm guessing this is more about untested pumps or hangers that mos may vary well support in the future provided the members here are satisfied enough with the product to make a sponsorship a priority.

Just a guess

 

[stillwantmore]

Can't we all just get along really? I mean with all the other shit going on in the world these days, this forum should not add any more stress to someone's life.