DHT anyone?

Chas79;672341 said:

To anybody that wants to look as young as possible or keep skin smooth the answer is simple. Wear sunscreen 30spf everyday. Sunscreen sunscreen sunscreen. If you do that you can thank me in 20 years.

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That and moisturizer. I'm 33 and have perpetual baby face. It use to bother me, but a lot of women love a youthful look.

johnny-wang;672107 said:

I am already very manly, been a scally my entire life albeit a bookworm . . . complicated I know.
And even though I have a pretty face I still look fairly mean (bad boyish look)
Problem is I look too young for my age (29) and have teenage girls giving me too much attention.
So I am trying to change my physique, I am going to supplement, creatine, whey protein (I am a hard gainer) and seriously considering DHT
Really scared about the DHT though I know it is 10x stronger than testosterone, can help increase manliness and penis growth too, but its a double edged sword
as I hear it might boost chances of developing prostrate problems too. . .
So my question is, can supplement DHT and is there a safe way to do this?

Did some searching and found these:

Dihydrotestosterone: 7 Ways to Increase DHT Naturally

How to Increase Your DHT

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Lol creatine does nothing for you. :L Supplements are meant to supplement, they're no way to get you a great physique. If anything I say to sticking to normal food and hitting your macros my brother. It's not bad to look young. Hell I wish I stay young looking for a long time.

After 7 days of creatine loading, or a further 14 days of creatine maintenance dose, serum T levels did not change. However, levels of DHT increased by 56% after 7 days of creatine loading and remained 40% above baseline after 14 days maintenance (P < 0.001). The ratio of DHT:T also increased by 36% after 7 days creatine supplementation and remained elevated by 22% after the maintenance dose (P < 0.01).

Three weeks of creatine monohydrate supplementation affects dihydrotestosterone to testosterone ratio in college-aged rugby players. - PubMed - NCBI

Apparently creatine does increase DHT levels by 50%, but that doesn't mean much. If you're not producing enough DHT then that might be good enough to get you into the normal zone (whatever that may be). Otherwise, if you are in the normal zone then a 50% boost probably still won't be noticable. If you're looking for those enhanced secondary male characteristics, you just need to get on testosterone. Test converts to DHT, estrogen (through the aromitaze enzyme), and lysosomic hormones). But beware that estrogen creep. Your body will always want to put itself into homeostasis thus create estrogen when it see's levels of test rise. If you're heavier its even worse cause fat tends to carry more aromitize enzymes.

Do what you want. It's your body. Just be smart about it and do your research.

MoreThanLuck;673283 said:

After 7 days of creatine loading, or a further 14 days of creatine maintenance dose, serum T levels did not change. However, levels of DHT increased by 56% after 7 days of creatine loading and remained 40% above baseline after 14 days maintenance (P < 0.001). The ratio of DHT:T also increased by 36% after 7 days creatine supplementation and remained elevated by 22% after the maintenance dose (P < 0.01).

Three weeks of creatine monohydrate supplementation affects dihydrotestosterone to testosterone ratio in college-aged rugby players. - PubMed - NCBI

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How does this all benefit you, if you could explain for others. Thanks you my Brother.

doublelongdaddy;673290 said:

How does this all benefit you, if you could explain for others. Thanks you my Brother.

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DHT does many things in the body, but people sometimes confuse it as being better than testosterone cause its 3-5x more androgenic. This is true, but pointless because other enzymes disable DHT in other tissues (especially the muscles). So for the purposes of growing a deeper voice, hair growth in certain areas (definitely not your head), and having a larger than life labido. There's no real use to be supplementing with DHT. You can get all these benefits from testosterone, and then some. Will creatine help you create the effects listed above? There's a possibility, but not for everyone.

MoreThanLuck;673366 said:

DHT does many things in the body, but people sometimes confuse it as being better than testosterone cause its 3-5x more androgenic. This is true, but pointless because other enzymes disable DHT in other tissues (especially the muscles). So for the purposes of growing a deeper voice, hair growth in certain areas (definitely not your head), and having a larger than life labido. There's no real use to be supplementing with DHT. You can get all these benefits from testosterone, and then some. Will creatine help you create the effects listed above? There's a possibility, but not for everyone.

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If you're going to take creatine make sure to know how to limit your consumption because the FDA hasn't published official records of consumption as far as I know. I need to look it up.

The food and drug agency can suck it unless they're gonna hook me up with food, and drugs

templnite;673495 said:

The food and drug agency can suck it unless they're gonna hook me up with food, and drugs

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You suck what? Ew.

@MoreThanLuck

How effectively has creatine helped you with PE. I've read its purpose and everything-etc. But for PE is it something that is greatly effective? Or is it minimal effectiveness.

Come on man that's something a child would say get a life

kyomoto;673615 said:

How effectively has creatine helped you with PE. I've read its purpose and everything-etc. But for PE is it something that is greatly effective? Or is it minimal effectiveness.

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It has done nothing for me personally in PE. In the body building world, I have had increases in strength due to longer lasting pumps.

In relation to how it helps in PE: The only persons that will be effected by usage of DHT will be males with hypogonadism or women (increases clitoris size). For normal adult males, no increases in penis size will be seen. In my personal use with DHT (Andractim cream), I have seen that there is no apparent difference (this was from 6 months of usage, where a cycle consisted of 8 weeks on, 4 weeks off).

MoreThanLuck;673643 said:

It has done nothing for me personally in PE. In the body building world, I have had increases in strength due to longer lasting pumps.

In relation to how it helps in PE: The only persons that will be effected by usage of DHT will be males with hypogonadism or women (increases clitoris size). For normal adult males, no increases in penis size will be seen. In my personal use with DHT (Andractim cream), I have seen that there is no apparent difference (this was from 6 months of usage, where a cycle consisted of 8 weeks on, 4 weeks off).

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Oh I thought it would be somewhat prevalent in PE.

templnite;673619 said:

Come on man that's something a child would say get a life

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You're not denying the fact that you do, so it is true! Hazzah!

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