Deconditioning from hanging

I've been thinking about taking a break from hanging to decondition my ligs if that's even possible. Will my ligs of steel soften up from taking time off? or are they pretty much going to be strong and stretch resistant from now on? I've been hanging heavy (20lbs) so my ligs are very strong. how long do you think it will take? and i hope i won't lose my hard earned gains and have to start from square 1.

Well, according to theory you ligs will soften up a bit, and you will be able to use a lower weight. Also, I wouldn't worry much about losing length if you have been hanging and not getting any gains. When I have taken extended breaks (2 months) I have not lost any noticible length, maybe you will be so lucky.

Resting or breaks is a good thing I feel!!

20 pounds is alot. How many hours (or sets) a day where you clocking?

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20 pounds is alot. How many hours (or sets) a day where you clocking?

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between 80-100minutes/day. i would like to hang more, but with school i don't have much free time.

Bib,
i'm interested to hear your thoughts on this as well. do the ligs really lose strength over time? how long would this take roughly? a couple weeks, a month, few months?

As I was trying to explain to a guy earlier today, this stuff with regards to hanging is sort of a 'two sided coin'. Meaning, you want to hang as much as is possible with a weight level that gives you fatigue, and continue to hang as much as possible while keeping the tissues fatigued. Taking as little time off as your schedule reasonably allows. Contrary to what many seem to believe this is NOT bodybuilding. You want to fatigue the tissues, and keep them in that state. That is when you will see your best gains. NOT during "time off". Taking time off, only allows the tissues time to recover, and get more resistant (stronger) to the stress from the weight making it harder to keep them fatigued, or even get them fatigued. Then again, taking several weeks or months off can also 'decondition' the tissues. The tissues get used to not having the stresses on them, and therefor become weaker again.

gorillaunit said:

between 80-100minutes/day. i would like to hang more, but with school i don't have much free time.

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That's not much hang-time.

gorilla,

>i'm interested to hear your thoughts on this as well. do the ligs really lose strength over time? how long would this take roughly? a couple weeks, a month, few months?<

SWM nailed it above. I could not have put it better.

While hanging, I always tried to keep fatigue going. As little rest as possible, given my privacy time. If I did have to take time off, a day or two with no hanging whatsoever, I feel like the collagenous tissues were stronger when I started back. But the soft tissues would be somewhat weaker. Not good.

I have no experience with taking extended breaks to weaken the tissues. But I can tell you that after I would shift to the upper angles for a month or better, when I returned to the lower angles, my ligs would be deconditioned, and stretch very easily. Same thing for the inner tunica when switching the other way, going from lower angles to upper angles.

With other bodily tissues, it usually takes between a month and six weeks to atrophy and decondition. I would assume that the tissues we are concerned with are the same way.

I have heard of many guys that have had good results with deconditioning breaks of between six weeks to two months.

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stillwantmore said:

As I was trying to explain to a guy earlier today, this stuff with regards to hanging is sort of a 'two sided coin'. Meaning, you want to hang as much as is possible with a weight level that gives you fatigue, and continue to hang as much as possible while keeping the tissues fatigued. Taking as little time off as your schedule reasonably allows. Contrary to what many seem to believe this is NOT bodybuilding. You want to fatigue the tissues, and keep them in that state. That is when you will see your best gains. NOT during "time off". Taking time off, only allows the tissues time to recover, and get more resistant (stronger) to the stress from the weight making it harder to keep them fatigued, or even get them fatigued. Then again, taking several weeks or months off can also 'decondition' the tissues. The tissues get used to not having the stresses on them, and therefor become weaker again.

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this is what i thought. thanks.

Bib said:

gorilla,

>i'm interested to hear your thoughts on this as well. do the ligs really lose strength over time? how long would this take roughly? a couple weeks, a month, few months?<

SWM nailed it above. I could not have put it better.

While hanging, I always tried to keep fatigue going. As little rest as possible, given my privacy time. If I did have to take time off, a day or two with no hanging whatsoever, I feel like the collagenous tissues were stronger when I started back. But the soft tissues would be somewhat weaker. Not good.

I've experienced this exactly as you described and yes--not good. i agree, lol.

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I have no experience with taking extended breaks to weaken the tissues. But I can tell you that after I would shift to the upper angles for a month or better, when I returned to the lower angles, my ligs would be deconditioned, and stretch very easily. Same thing for the inner tunica when switching the other way, going from lower angles to upper angles.

With other bodily tissues, it usually takes between a month and six weeks to atrophy and decondition. I would assume that the tissues we are concerned with are the same way.

I have heard of many guys that have had good results with deconditioning breaks of between six weeks to two months.

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awesome thanks.

BTW Bib,
were your ligs deconditioned enough to lower the weight after returning to the lower angles? or did you still have to use the same weight?

Just to chip in with my two cents: I've never done hanging (I've tried, but cannot for the life of me get the hanger to stay in place because of my excess shaft skin), but as far as deconditioning the tissues is concerned, here's a few thoughts: my so far best growth spurt came AFTER a 2 month break of nothing but light tugs in the shower, i.e. I had no length routine whatsoever. I lost a little size, especially flaccid wise, but when I started back up with an intense manual stretching routine, I could feel a tangible difference. The threshold of pain you normally experience when hitting the ligs was noticeably lower, and my penis literally felt more malleable. I gained 0.4" in a very short time, and then the gains stagnated as abruptly as they had come.
However, hanging is different in that you can increase the amount of weight almost indefinitely, and always stay one step ahead of RBE (repeated bout effect), or in other words, the adaptation of your tissues to the amount of strain you are placing on them. Your dick WILL fight back harder and harder, thus you have to keep increasing either training volume or weight (or both). With manual stretching, you only have the possibility to increase volume, since you can't consciously stay at a certain intensity of stretch without accidentally jumping up to a more powerful pull, or down to a less forceful tug.

gorilla,

>were your ligs deconditioned enough to lower the weight after returning to the lower angles? or did you still have to use the same weight?<

Yes. I always had to start at a lower weight. Usually, much lower. However, I seemed to need to advance faster (adding weight) than when originally going up in weight. In my case, I feel not all of the conditioning left me.

Shafty,

Really good post. What kind of hanger do you have, and would you like to get into the problems of slipping? Those problems can be beat.

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Bib, I have a home made hanger, courtesy of a friend of mine, who manufactured it for me (he goes by the name of Yves on these forums- rarely visits any more, though). There's nothing wrong with it- it's my penis that doesn't want to cooperate with the hanger. :D

There's the problem of slipping, and also, the problem of feeling too constricted. I can't seem to get the hanger to stay on comfortably; it feels like I'm killing my dick every time I attatch it. Any suggestions or advice? I'd really love to give hanging a go, if I could overcome these problems, since I have had limited success with manual stretching.

Shafty,

>There's the problem of slipping, and also, the problem of feeling too constricted. I can't seem to get the hanger to stay on comfortably; it feels like I'm killing my dick every time I attatch it. Any suggestions or advice?<

It is fairly tough, not knowing what you are working with. There are a number of homemade hangers available. Many uncut and cut guys have good luck with different kinds of hangers. You would simply need to find what works for you.

If the hanger is slipping, it is because it is not grasping the internal structures of the shaft. It appears to just be grasping skin. When you say it is constricting, it sounds as if it is a circular compression attachment. You will probably do much better with a lateral compression attachment.

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Great posts guys, thanks!

Shafty said:

There's the problem of slipping, and also, the problem of feeling too constricted. I can't seem to get the hanger to stay on comfortably; it feels like I'm killing my dick every time I attatch it. Any suggestions or advice? I'd really love to give hanging a go, if I could overcome these problems, since I have had limited success with manual stretching.

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My first suggestion is to get a Bib. There is nothing that could possibly compare to the Bib and the price will justify itself in comfort and security after the first few time hanging. I could not imagine hanging with anything else.

The way I wrap is very important to how comfortable the hanger is and how much weight I can use without the pain you are talking about. If I wrap poorly my hanger will be painful with 5 pounds but when I take the time to wrap correctly I can hang 7 times that amount with complete comfort.

My wrapping technique is as follows.

Wrap:
1.) A piece of cotton sock 7" long by 3.5" wide
2.) A 1.5" x 14" ACE Bandage

I first stretch my penis and scrotum out to ensure they are as relaxed as possible. Using a reverse OK grip I grab my penis about an inch behind the glans pulling up my shaft skin to just above my cornal ridge. I then wrap the cotton sock around my shaft about a 1/2 inch below my glans while holding the previously stretched at my cornal ridge in place. I am careful to be sure there are no wrinkles in the sock as these will translate to painful areas when the weight is applied to the hanger. Once I am certain the sock is smooth I then wrap the ACE bandage over the sock. Again, I am careful to not wrinkle this step either. I am also very careful that the ACE bandage does not come in contact with my skin (ACE bandage has a nastly habit of ripping off the skin). I want the wrap to be snug without being constricting. After I have a perfect wrap I attach my hanger. I want a their to be a small amount of skin over my cornal ridge and part of my glans so I am sure to pull the wrap up a bit while attaching my hanger. As I tighten down the hanger I apply some downward pressure being sure the skin stays in place.