Changing angle

First,thanks Bib for sending the replacement parts for my hanger they arrived two weeks ago,i sent some cash to cover the cost of postage,hopefully it should reach you ok.

Ive been run off my feet for the last few weeks with overtime at work and this has ment no private time in which to hang,things are back to normal now so i can get back to buisness.

Ive had alot of probs with virus alerts from MOS that stop me reading some threads even threads ive posted in previous,so if i don't respond to this thread its for the same reason.

Up to the point i broke my hanger i was hanging BTC with 16lbs for first set dropping to 14 for the rest of my sets that was for just over 6 weeks.

Ive had no problems at all with slippage,wrapping and setup are spot on at the moment and the discolouration is minimal compared to when i had the hanger setup wrong and was overtightening the hanger.

I want to change hanging angles but i'm a bit apprehensive,my lot has always been low 7 and since hanging is touching 6,i have plenty of skin stretch for the moment,previous to getting setup and wrap correct i had been hanging SO for 2 month and made quite a mess of my foreskin because of overtightening,that shouldn't be a problem this time round.

I also had a short spell hanging OTS but got no feeling of fatigue or any stretch at all,this again was probably down to using the wrong setup.

Ive seen mentioned fulcrum hanging and from what i can gather it involves hanging over some sort of pipe,would this be an option?

This is a list of what ive done in the past.

8 weeks SD made quater of an inch gain even though the hanger was setup wrong.

OTS for about 4 weeks but gave up because of no feeling

8 weeks SO severe discolouration to foreskin.

6 weeks BTC setup and wrap correct.

So which angle should i go for next,thanks

PA,

>So which angle should i go for next,thanks<

Well, you should be totally deconditioned, so your options are wide open. With an LOT of nearly 6, I would say definitely OTS, perhaps with a fulcrum. You want to stress the entire tunica, and raise your LOT.

>Ive seen mentioned fulcrum hanging and from what i can gather it involves hanging over some sort of pipe,would this be an option?<

For you, yes. You can hang OTS, using a heated rice sock as your fulcrum, or whatever gives you the right feel. Something round which is the right size. Just attach the hanger, pull your unit up over the fulcrum, and attach the weight. This will put most of the stress on the bottom chamber and tunica. Then you can alternate with sets using no fulcrum, and should feel the stress on the upper (dorsal) tunica.

You may also alternate using a fulcrum in the SO position, which will put more stress on the dorsal tunica.

>I also had a short spell hanging OTS but got no feeling of fatigue or any stretch at all,this again was probably down to using the wrong setup.<

OTS can be tricky, usually because it is completely different from hanging at the lower angles. It requires a different technique. You must learn to manage the friction from hanging OTS, using your abs to increase or decrease the stress during a set. As you have found, the setup usually must be different also.

If you need any help, just ask.

Bigger

Bib i had one attempt at OTS and felt nothing at all no pull apart from at the head which is exactly how it felt last time i tied OTS,i came up with this idea,do you think this will work.

click on links and hopefully you should be able to see pics.

first pic the arrows show pressure area on the head.
http://img49.echo.cx/img49/7387/img12533bn.jpg

second pic, if feel the shaft of my penis this area feels very taught cable like,but i'm not really feeling any pull.
http://img49.echo.cx/img49/2720/img12544wc.jpg

view from the top.
http://img49.echo.cx/img49/5941/img12568zm.jpg

hanger on not fully tightened,once weight is applied another full turn,poor pic quality,had to turn the flash off the camera.
http://img49.echo.cx/img49/1513/img125711xo.jpg

As you can see i'm hanging over the back of a chair,i tried 16lbs for sets of 15 minutes and got very little in the way of pull or feeling,i'm dubious of adding extra weight because of the past problems of discolouration to the foreskin.

I like the idea of fulcrum hanging but i'm sure exactly how you would have the set up.

Bib said:

PA,

>Ive seen mentioned fulcrum hanging and from what i can gather it involves hanging over some sort of pipe,would this be an option?<

For you, yes. You can hang OTS, using a heated rice sock as your fulcrum, or whatever gives you the right feel. Something round which is the right size. Just attach the hanger, pull your unit up over the fulcrum, and attach the weight. This will put most of the stress on the bottom chamber and tunica. Then you can alternate with sets using no fulcrum, and should feel the stress on the upper (dorsal) tunica.

Bigger

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Bigger,

Could you please explain this too me again cause when I was playing with SO last year I used a fulcrum and I rested it on top of my thighs and then rested the underside of my shaft on the fulcrum. When you are in the OTS I can't see how the fulcrum is used unless you are saying, it is placed between the top side of your shaft and you ab muscle area hence the contact point of the fulcrum is on the top side of your shaft and this is how the underside gets strecthed? Is that what you meant or have I misunderstood it?

Thanks.
GMJ

PA,

First, I have never attempted to hang like that, or at that angle. Even manual stretching, I never felt much when pulling at that angle.

OTS means just that, over the shoulder, a much more severe angle than what you are trying.

Also, with that setup, you cannot use a fulcrum. If you have the hanger on your abdomen, and the rope extension over your chest and shouder, and the weights behind the chair you are sitting in, then putting a fulcrum under your dorsal shaft will really work the bottom of your shaft, and behind the balls.

BTW, in that first pic, it does not appear that you are grasping the internal strucures. It appears the skin is being pulled a bunch, due to the amount of skin in front of the hanger. But I could be wrong. If I am not wrong, you may want to be tightening a bit more, and may have to adjust the hex nuts in a bit to be able to tighten more.


Bigger

GMJ,

>Could you please explain this too me again cause when I was playing with SO last year I used a fulcrum and I rested it on top of my thighs and then rested the underside of my shaft on the fulcrum.<

Yes, that is one way of using a fulcrum, which should put more pressure on the top side of the tunica.

>When you are in the OTS I can't see how the fulcrum is used unless you are saying, it is placed between the top side of your shaft and you ab muscle area hence the contact point of the fulcrum is on the top side of your shaft and this is how the underside gets strecthed? Is that what you meant or have I misunderstood it?<

That is exactly correct. The fulcrum is between your body and dorsal shaft, puts the stress on the bottom of the shaft.

Bigger

Bigger,

Thanks for that info.

GMJ

Bib,

The hanger is setup and attatched the way it was while i was hanging BTC and i was getting good level of fatigue from it,the skin does look bunched up in the pic but that is just the excess skin i have at the tip.

I normaly use a hotwater bottle as my source of heat but i made a rice sock so i could attempt fulcrum hanging.

Ive dropped the over the chair idea,i tried OTS with the rice sock inbetween my stomach and shaft but i'm still not really feeling anything,if i feel under the hanger the sides of the shaft feel taught but i'm not getting any sort of feeling of fatigue,i could up the weight from 16lbs but i don't want to do that yet.

Can you describe the feeling of stress fatigue of OTS compared to SD BTC.

Thanks

Bib i took some pics this morning could you have a look and see if anything looks wrong,only managed 3x 10 min sets,my foreskin was becoming sore and discoloured,head was fine not cold or blue.

In the first pic the wrap is up on the head,this is how it always ends up i start the wrap about two inches below the head but it moves up by itself nothing i can do to stop it..

http://img144.echo.cx/img144/8982/img12814mv.jpg

http://img144.echo.cx/img144/4840/img12839lh.jpg

http://img144.echo.cx/img144/5677/img127410jw.jpg

http://img144.echo.cx/img144/7335/img1272113xl.jpg

http://img144.echo.cx/img144/895/img12765rl.jpg

prince Albert,

I tried to have a look at your pics but I can't get them on my screen, says something about being banned. Have you posted them elsewhere in MOS so I may view them for my learning.

Thanks Mate

GMJ

GMJ don't no why it does that,ive posted pics before and some can view them and others get the banned message like you.If Bib carn't view them i will repost using a different host.

You should be able to see them if you copy the link and paste into the address bar.

PA,

>Can you describe the feeling of stress fatigue of OTS compared to SD BTC.<

BTC would stress the ligs, at the base of the shaft, and the abdomen. It always felt like the tissues were fatigued after doing a weight lifting workout. The feeling would be there while hanging, and I would usually keep the feeling after the session, even until the next session.

The fatigue from OTS was not quite as pronounced. But my entire shaft could, and usually would feel fatigued while hanging, even down into the inner shaft, behind the balls. When I had the rice sock between my shaft and abdomen, it would really stress the actual inner shaft behind the balls. This fatigue would usually diminish after taking off the weight. It was not as pronounced after my session was over.

But over time, the fatigue would build up. It was easier to reach fatigue after several days, and the fatigue would become greater as the days of OTS work drug on.

You may simply need more weight before you start feeling the fatigue. But you are correct in not moving up too quickly, especially with the foreskin thing. Just move up 1-2 lbs at most, per week, and at some point, you will reach fatigue. Also, during this time, experiment with different wraps and hex nut adjustments, as well as how you position the shaft in the shaft well.

Another thing: You can make the rice sock tighter, to where it is a bigger 'ball', and makes a greater bend when hanging. Or you can try different things as your fulcrum. You have a long shaft, so to get the best fulcrum, try different, bigger things. Perhaps a number 303 can.

>In the first pic the wrap is up on the head,this is how it always ends up i start the wrap about two inches below the head but it moves up by itself nothing i can do to stop it..<

The pics look really good. The top gap looks perfect. But the one thing I cannot tell from pictures is whether the hanger is tight enough for the amount of weight you wish to hang. You might try moving the bottom hex nut adjustments in just a bit, perhaps a half turn on each, and tightening a bit more, trying to put more compression on the inner structures. This should limit the amount the hanger slides down.

>only managed 3x 10 min sets,my foreskin was becoming sore and discoloured,head was fine not cold or blue.<

Yes, foreskin pressure can be uncomfortable. The good thing is, eventually, you will get used to it. The foreskin tissues will adapt and become stronger, and the pressure will not affect them much after a while. But you can reduce the amount of pressure using some of the things outlined above. Also, try putting your shaft in the shaft well at a diagonal, with the shaft toward the base more at the bottom of the hanger, and the shaft toward the head at the top of the shaft well. This will tend to take pressure off the bottom of the upper shaft/head, and take pressure off the bottom of the foreskin.

The best advice is for you to try many different things, something slightly different during each of your ten minute sets, until you find the things that work best for you.

But in general, you have things going good. I like the looks of your setup there, and when you work up in weight, you will start feeling the fatigue.

Bigger

>Another thing: You can make the rice sock tighter, to where it is a bigger 'ball', and makes a greater bend when hanging. Or you can try different things as your fulcrum. You have a long shaft, so to get the best fulcrum, try different, bigger things. Perhaps a number 303 can.

I will make the sock tighter,what is a number 303 can?

Do you think its better to try and increase the hanging time or up the weight initially?

PA,

>I will make the sock tighter,what is a number 303 can?<

Hehe. I was referring to an old joke. I guess a very very old joke. I think a 303 can is the standard size in the US for food cans. It is about three inches across. I think you could handle that big of a fulcrum.

>Do you think its better to try and increase the hanging time or up the weight initially?<

Always work up to the amount of available privacy hanging time first, with a reasonable weight, and then after you are hanging for the available number of sets, work up the hanging weight as needed.

Bigger

Just a quick update,ive spent the last few days experimenting and am now using one of those thick scented candles as a fulcrum,its slightly thicker than a coke can,with it being solid i can push against it slightly with my lowers abs and increase the pull slightly.

Worked up to 4x 15 min sets,goal is 6 x 15,7 days a week,i can feel more of a pull but still no fatigue but its still early days,hopefully i should reach full working sets middle of next week.

Soreness around the head is considerably better but discolouration is still high.

Also started working some kegals into each set and can get a very intense contraction.

PA,

It sounds as if things are getting better. Try not to sit on your laurals, and continue to find new and better ways.

Good luck,

Bigger

Just a quick update,i was up to 6x15 min sets a day 7 days a week but from this week ive got compulsory overtime at work mon-fri both late and early shifts until october so ive had to switch to one session a day at 3x20 mins not sure what i'm going to do over the weekend yet.

Changed my setup as well,i bought a new computer desk and chair and got one of those high back leather chairs very comfortable,never thought when i bought it about hanging,i came up with the idea of cutting a large heavy duty plastic fabric conditioner bottle up which makes a perfect sleeve for the top of the chair,now i sit back in the chair and instead of the weight going over the shoulder it goes slightly higher and back and over the top of the chair,this is much more comfortable as you don't have the weight over the shoulder also i had built up to 10kg to feel fatigue but going over the back of the chair the cord has less friction against the plastic and ive had to drop the weight back down to 7.5 kg.

I'm feeling what i think is fatigue sort of a dull ache in the lower shaft balls area,feels different to lig fatigue.

After a session my flaccid hang is looking really good and is very motivating.

I decided not to measure for several months and didn't measure when i finished hanging BTC, my wife is heavily pregnant and we havn't had sex in several months due to some concerns,she has been doing other stuff for me and over the last few weeks has made several comments about how fat my willy is getting(her words).
So the temptation to measure got the better of me and i measured my erect base girth and its just over 6.5 inches,it was just under 6.5 last time i measured so ive made a gain of 1/4 inch,still didn't measure length.

Here's a flaccid pic after a session,don't no if it will work or not.

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9110/img130012sh.jpg

prince Albert said:

Ive had alot of probs with virus alerts from MOS that stop me reading some threads even threads ive posted in previous,so if i don't respond to this thread its for the same reason.

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Yeah, I've been getting this also WTF ?

Had no virus probs lately,i think its been sorted out.