These measurements can't be right... can anyone explain this?

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cladre60

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Been at it for 6 weeks now doing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] with minor adjustments to it. I decided to do a quick measurement because I'm seeing more bunching up at the base and I can tell I'm thicker there than before (I do some stretches from the base).

Grabbed the ruler, EQ was excellent thanks to some adult entertainment, and....

WHAT THE HELL?! DID I GET SHORTER?!

Repositioned a little and remembered I had a very gentle press for the regular erect length. No gain.

BPEL, however, appears that I've gained 1/4" in 6 weeks.

I haven't gained/lost any weight so no change in the fat pad. I'm really confused as to what is going on.

This was just a quickie measurement and I'm 6 weeks away from an official measurement but this is weird. Can anyone explain it to me?
 
cladre60;726180 said:
Been at it for 6 weeks now doing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] with minor adjustments to it. I decided to do a quick measurement because I'm seeing more bunching up at the base and I can tell I'm thicker there than before (I do some stretches from the base).

Grabbed the ruler, EQ was excellent thanks to some adult entertainment, and....

WHAT THE HELL?! DID I GET SHORTER?!

Repositioned a little and remembered I had a very gentle press for the regular erect length. No gain.

BPEL, however, appears that I've gained 1/4" in 6 weeks.

I haven't gained/lost any weight so no change in the fat pad. I'm really confused as to what is going on.

This was just a quickie measurement and I'm 6 weeks away from an official measurement but this is weird. Can anyone explain it to me?
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Becoming shorter is completely impossible. You may have lost temporary gains but losing size that is cemented is not possible. I would be sure you are measuring from the same place and anchored firmly against the pubic bone. If you are still getting wild measurements it is an EQ issue. It is easy to check this by measuring bone-pressed flaccid, stretched, there is no way for this measurement to change unless you have gained.
 
mmm loosing gains well going for that extra half an inch is so necessary..i want to get to a 12x7 i have to go for a 12.5x7.5:cool:;)rofl
 
doublelongdaddy;726371 said:
Becoming shorter is completely impossible. You may have lost temporary gains but losing size that is cemented is not possible. I would be sure you are measuring from the same place and anchored firmly against the pubic bone. If you are still getting wild measurements it is an EQ issue. It is easy to check this by measuring bone-pressed flaccid, stretched, there is no way for this measurement to change unless you have gained.
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EQ was pretty good as I did it while edging. I'm thinking I measured differently.

Is it possible to gain bpel but not erect length? I haven't gained or lost any weight since I started.
 
cladre60;726396 said:
EQ was pretty good as I did it while edging. I'm thinking I measured differently.

Is it possible to gain bpel but not erect length? I haven't gained or lost any weight since I started.
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That is not only possible it is protocol! BPFS will always show gains before BPEL. BPFS is a map to future gains and is always consistent. It does not depend on eq or weight loss or gain, it is always uniform.
 
BPFS = Bone Pressed Flaccid Stretch right?

I haven't done any flaccid stretch measurements so I'm guessing I should try to find a way to do it. When I started all I was thinking was "the only important thing to know is how big I measure hard! That's all that matters!" I'm finding out that's not the case :o

No biggie, I'll just be absent some data from the day I started until I get the other measurements. I'm only 6 weeks in so it's not too bad. If I was 6 months in and asking why I hadn't made any gains and had bad data to start with that'd be a different story.
 
cladre60;726481 said:
BPFS = Bone Pressed Flaccid Stretch right?

I haven't done any flaccid stretch measurements so I'm guessing I should try to find a way to do it. When I started all I was thinking was "the only important thing to know is how big I measure hard! That's all that matters!" I'm finding out that's not the case :o

No biggie, I'll just be absent some data from the day I started until I get the other measurements. I'm only 6 weeks in so it's not too bad. If I was 6 months in and asking why I hadn't made any gains and had bad data to start with that'd be a different story.
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I'm guilty of not logging BPFS as well but I do measure it semi-often (probably too much lol) as it is far more consistent than BPEL for me. My EQ tends to wane whenever I pull out something to measure with, regardless of my arousal before hand. I noticed that when there is a jump in BPFS a gain of similar size in BPEL is noted around the next time I officially measure and log.

I know it's not best practice to measure so frequently (I do official erect measurements at the same time each month, once per month) but my love for data makes me want to lol. I look forward to being able to plot a graph showing my progress regardless of the amount.
 
There are 2 measurements that should be constantly made and the remaining measurements should not happen until 90 days in. I would check girth after every session to be sure you are seeing good expansion. This is not official this is only to be sure the session is profitable. Next, I would measure Bone-Pressed, Flaccid-Stretched every week. This is where length gains show up first and gives you direction to if your routine is gainful. Every other measurement should be done every 90 days.
 
chargains;726514 said:
I'm guilty of not logging BPFS as well but I do measure it semi-often (probably too much lol) as it is far more consistent than BPEL for me. My EQ tends to wane whenever I pull out something to measure with, regardless of my arousal before hand. I noticed that when there is a jump in BPFS a gain of similar size in BPEL is noted around the next time I officially measure and log.

I know it's not best practice to measure so frequently (I do official erect measurements at the same time each month, once per month) but my love for data makes me want to lol. I look forward to being able to plot a graph showing my progress regardless of the amount.
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Data collection is so important. Even though my degree is a bachelor of arts the psychology program I was in was actually very science based. 3 of the required classes were all about analyzing and interpreting data. Other classes still involved knowing how to properly interpret data and a few were so dependant on it you couldn't take them until the 3 I mentioned above as you needed that knowledge.

At work I have to do some simple chemical testing daily. Every time we have a concern I start logging the data on my own. I've found multiple issues with sensors and programming in our systems that were only found and rectified because of my data collection.

I know what you're saying about losing EQ when you go to measure. As I'm getting older I've noticed that if I'm distracted enough I will lose EQ. The TV was on to Dr Phil one morning while my wife and I were having sex and I was struggling to stay fully erect. After the 3rd time I noticed that during the commercials I was hard as a rock but as soon as his "holier than thou" voice came back I was struggling. I wasn't even paying attention to the TV but it was killing my mood!

Changed the channel (needed background noise cause of kids in the house) and was able to give her what she woke me up for ;)
 
I did a BPFSL this morning and couldn't believe what I saw. I got almost a full INCH longer than my BPEL that was taken 7 weeks ago. I was blown away!

I didn't record the measurement. I did a 25 minute edging session this morning (which ended when I went just a little bit too far lol. I was planning on reaching orgasm anyway). Then when I was in the middle of my stretching routine I decided to grab the ruler to take a peek.

I'm going to get an "official" BPFSL in the next few days but the only things I'll do prior are heat for 5 minutes and a quick massage to loosen up a little. Still, if what I saw this morning is an inductor of what I'm capable of I'm totally stoked!
 
stillwantmore2;726644 said:
Awesome news!
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I never thought it was important until DLD said it above and then I read a little more in the forums here.

What will be really awesome is when I've added an inch to my erect length, not bone pressed either.

And then another inch.

And I keep them both :D
 
cladre60;726647 said:
I never thought it was important until DLD said it above and then I read a little more in the forums here.

What will be really awesome is when I've added an inch to my erect length, not bone pressed either.

And then another inch.

And I keep them both :D
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Just keep at it man. I think we will definitely see you add some inches over the next few years. Good luck!
 
That inch didn't show up in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words]... yet. However seeing myself in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] with the size guide on it I'm getting a much better idea of just how big my goal will make me. I want 7" plain old erect length, maybe 7.5".

Work work work (but at least it's work I enjoy!).
 
cladre60;726703 said:
That inch didn't show up in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words]... yet. However seeing myself in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] with the size guide on it I'm getting a much better idea of just how big my goal will make me. I want 7" plain old erect length, maybe 7.5".

Work work work (but at least it's work I enjoy!).
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"If you do what you love, you'll never work a day in your life."

Look forward to seeing you make some great gains man. How are you enjoying the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] so far?
 
chargains;726706 said:
"If you do what you love, you'll never work a day in your life."

Look forward to seeing you make some great gains man. How are you enjoying the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] so far?
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It's interesting. I put it on twice and noticed girth was much better. The third time I used it I did 1 round of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] first and I didn't want to take it off lol. I was getting nice growth in the tube. Pretty awesome. I can see this helping a lot.
 
LONGERDICK7+;726715 said:
"If you do what you love, you'll never work a day in your life."

wise words
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very true. I love what I do and I ever feel as though I laboring, it always is a joy.
 
Okay so here's what's up with my penis....

I took measurements on Feb 7. Between then and March 28, so 7 weeks, I've added 0.25" in BPEL and almost that much in regular erect length. That was doing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words]. The past 4 weeks I've been holding stretches for 45s instead of 30s.

Girth is a different story. I measured at my circumcision scar and the base. At the scar I have no change. At the base I have an extra 0.5" of girth. I'll do a round of stretches from the base and because of that I'm getting a "tree trunk" effect. I'm not worried about it and will keep doing a round of stretches from there. I try to do all 3 from just past the head but it gets uncomfortable.

BPFSL is 0.75" longer than BPEL. I find it amazing that BPFSL is so much more but I understand why.

I had to do measurements prior to 90 days because I'm starting out now with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words]. If I had waited 90 days I wouldn't know if growth was from stretching, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words], or both.

It has me curious where I would've ended up at 90 days without the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words]. I'll do BPEL and EL again in 2 months and see what I get.

The most important thing is that IT WORKS! PE DOES WORK! OMFG PE ACTUALLY WORKS! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT BUT PE EFFECTIVELY WORKS!
 
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cladre60;726856 said:
Okay so here's what's up with my penis....

I took measurements on Feb 7. Between then and March 28, so 7 weeks, I've added 0.25" in BPEL and almost that much in regular erect length. That was doing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words]. The past 4 weeks I've been holding stretches for 45s instead of 30s.

Girth is a different story. I measured at my circumcision scar and the base. At the scar I have no change. At the base I have an extra 0.5" of girth. I'll do a round of stretches from the base and because of that I'm getting a "tree trunk" effect. I'm not worried about it and will keep doing a round of stretches from there. I try to do all 3 from just past the head but it gets uncomfortable.

BPFSL is 0.75" longer than BPEL. I find it amazing that BPFSL is so much more but I understand why.

I had to do measurements prior to 90 days because I'm starting out now with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words]. If I had waited 90 days I wouldn't know if growth was from stretching, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words], or both.

It has me curious where I would've ended up at 90 days without the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words]. I'll do BPEL and EL again in 2 months and see what I get.

The most important thing is that IT WORKS! PE DOES WORK! OMFG PE ACTUALLY WORKS! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT BUT PE EFFECTIVELY WORKS!
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Congrats on the progress man! with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] in your arsenal you will be well on your way to showing even more proof of PE's effectiveness. Looking forward to hearing about your gains 2 months from now (among your updates lol).
 
chargains;726881 said:
Congrats on the progress man! with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] in your arsenal you will be well on your way to showing even more proof of PE's effectiveness. Looking forward to hearing about your gains 2 months from now (among your updates lol).
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I'll tell you this - I've never been around so many straight men that all cared about each others cocks and I lived in the barracks throughout my 4 year enlistment. It's actually pretty cool lol.
 
cladre60;726889 said:
I'll tell you this - I've never been around so many straight men that all cared about each others cocks and I lived in the barracks throughout my 4 year enlistment. It's actually pretty cool lol.
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I'll say this about that, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is a unique community. Although the focus is on PE (hence the attention to the penis lol), it seems to be all about progressing to a better person. These forums have a freedom to explore and learn more that many similar forums don't seem to have. Each member has the right to their own opinion and in general it's openly accepted. That's something I'm very thankful for because I love to see what others think. It's part of the reason I turned from a lurker to a member.
 
chargains;726903 said:
I'll say this about that, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is a unique community. Although the focus is on PE (hence the attention to the penis lol), it seems to be all about progressing to a better person. These forums have a freedom to explore and learn more that many similar forums don't seem to have. Each member has the right to their own opinion and in general it's openly accepted. That's something I'm very thankful for because I love to see what others think. It's part of the reason I turned from a lurker to a member.
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We are about much more than penis size. As a matter of fact many men come here thinking they have a penis problem when in reality they have a much different problem. In any case we always find the root and deal with that. In finding the root of the problem we are faced with many "roots" which allows us to go after the real issue that lies beneath the original problem. In this we have become very well versed with dealing with every male issue thinkable. So we remain committed to the betterment of the man, mind, body, soul!
 
I struggled with measurements for quite a while. The penis is shorter after certain exercises. My explanation would be that the penis pulls back right after a lot of tension has been applied. In the pumps I hardly reach the maximum length but I focus on girth while pumping anyways. In the past I measured frequently with just a few days between. Almost all the time I measure 20.4 cm BPFS. Sometimes I measure 21.4 BPFS. This occurs rarely, about every 10th time I am measuring. Meanwhile I start to believe that the longer measurement has been a mistake and for this reason I took a picture to remind myself that my memory is not confused.

The erection length is much lower and travels between 17 and 19.5cm. I don't really use it as a reference anymore.

BPFS is my favorite method. My recommendiation however is to measure much less frequently. Probably every few month. Also develop a feeling for the size instead of using the ruler. Before I measure I check my feelings whether I could cope with a lack of size increase. If I don't feel comfortable making a measurement, I just don't do it.

The signatures in this forum seem to pretend penises with a fixed size, accurate to the millimeter. I would say that people always talk about their ideal measurement. According to my experience, a consistens size doesn't really exist except if you have collected a lot of data.
 
Chaoskampf;729138 said:
According to my experience, a consistens size doesn't really exist except if you have collected a lot of data.
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And this is why every possible measurement should be made in the most proper way. A good deal of fluctuation happens due to poor measuring techniques. Length measurements need to be made against the pubic bone, any soft tissue measurement will be inconsistent. The small increments that men make are the footprints of motivation to shoot for those larger gains. But to a certain point measurements will vary in certain conditions and this is the big reason much data is needed to determine small gains.
 
doublelongdaddy;729267 said:
And this is why every possible measurement should be made in the most proper way. A good deal of fluctuation happens due to poor measuring techniques. Length measurements need to be made against the pubic bone, any soft tissue measurement will be inconsistent. The small increments that men make are the footprints of motivation to shoot for those larger gains. But to a certain point measurements will vary in certain conditions and this is the big reason much data is needed to determine small gains.
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Was on bad wifi, post didn't go through right....

It's a double edged sword with measurements cause you need enough for good data but doing too much will drive you nuts. Maybe I'll do 3 days of measurements when it comes time for my quarterly and check consistency of them. If all 3 are too far different then I'll do a few more. If they're all within I'd say 1/16" then that's pretty damn close and probably good enough.
 
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cladre60;729286 said:
Was on bad wifi, post didn't go through right....

It's a double edged sword with measurements cause you need enough for good data but doing too much will drive you nuts. Maybe I'll do 3 days of measurements when it comes time for my quarterly and check consistency of them. If all 3 are too far different then I'll do a few more. If they're all within I'd say 1/16" then that's pretty damn close and probably good enough.
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I never really mentioned a gain unless it was .25" or more.
 
doublelongdaddy;729267 said:
And this is why every possible measurement should be made in the most proper way. A good deal of fluctuation happens due to poor measuring techniques. Length measurements need to be made against the pubic bone, any soft tissue measurement will be inconsistent. The small increments that men make are the footprints of motivation to shoot for those larger gains. But to a certain point measurements will vary in certain conditions and this is the big reason much data is needed to determine small gains.
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Allright. So here is what I found out: When I put a napkin to the face of my ruler I measured 1.5cm more (the rule is made from aluminum and very sharp so it hurts without the napkin but I wasn't really aware that I didn't hit the bone). Then I figured out that when I tilt my pelvis I can add another cm to my measurements. So basically my new measurements are one inch higher than everything I measured before. Then today I took measurements in the morning until the evening. Seems to get longer towards the evening up to an inch. I can't figure out how to get proper measurements so I can actually compare anything.
 
Chaoskampf;731049 said:
Allright. So here is what I found out: When I put a napkin to the face of my ruler I measured 1.5cm more (the rule is made from aluminum and very sharp so it hurts without the napkin but I wasn't really aware that I didn't hit the bone). Then I figured out that when I tilt my pelvis I can add another cm to my measurements. So basically my new measurements are one inch higher than everything I measured before. Then today I took measurements in the morning until the evening. Seems to get longer towards the evening up to an inch. I can't figure out how to get proper measurements so I can actually compare anything.
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When I did my 3 month measurements I did them 3 days in a row to make sure I was getting the same thing repeatedly. I had a BPEL, EL, and a mid shaft Girth measurement that I threw out because 1 of each was off by 1/4" or more. The measurements I recorded were within 1/16" of each other so they were close enough.

More data gives more accurate results. Just don't measure every single day for months or you'll go insane.

Time of day is an interesting one that I didn't think of. I only warmed up with heat for about 5 minutes and did a quick massage before doing measurements, didn't think about morning/evening.
 
Buy a wooden ruler and round off the base of the ruler so all edges are rounded and smooth and you will not need to pad the ruler. I did this through my entire career. It allows you to press properly and with enough intensity to get a consistent reading.

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doublelongdaddy;731103 said:
Buy a wooden ruler and round off the base of the ruler so all edges are rounded and smooth and you will not need to pad the ruler. I did this through my entire career. It allows you to press properly and with enough intensity to get a consistent reading.

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true that and they make me feel better,metal rulers sharp edges can be painful while measuring:P
 
doublelongdaddy;731103 said:
Buy a wooden ruler and round off the base of the ruler so all edges are rounded and smooth and you will not need to pad the ruler. I did this through my entire career. It allows you to press properly and with enough intensity to get a consistent reading.

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Im going to have to give this a try, i have been using a soft tape but with my curve its hard to get an accurate measurement.
 
Wooden ruler is a good idea. I have a triangular plastic one that does 6 different measurements. There's a 3/8" gap between the edge and 0 (I measured to be certain). So I do my measurements and then have to add 3/8". At first its a "oh man, that's all I've got?" Then I do the math and get a smile.

But yeah, I need to get 2 of those wooden rulers. Round the edges from one for myself and round off 3" on the other for the "guy penis talk" measurement lol.
 
cladre60;731156 said:
Wooden ruler is a good idea. I have a triangular plastic one that does 6 different measurements. There's a 3/8" gap between the edge and 0 (I measured to be certain). So I do my measurements and then have to add 3/8". At first its a "oh man, that's all I've got?" Then I do the math and get a smile.

But yeah, I need to get 2 of those wooden rulers. Round the edges from one for myself and round off 3" on the other for the "guy penis talk" measurement lol.
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And guys remember, on most wooden rulers you should add .25" to your length as many start at 12.25". In the shave you can make it a solid 12" with smooth, sanded edges.
 
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