Something I wrote in my spare time

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Jamian

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Well, I hope someone appreciates this. I'm feeling a little less suicidal.
My view on this subject.


I look down, I am ashamed of myself. Why?
Because I am circumcised.

Through no choice of mine was I circumcised. It was done at birth. Frequently I am depressed about this. Why would anyone defile my body like that? This is a disgusting feeling I get from time to time. Especially because some people actually support it. That to me is the most disgusting thing in the world. And that some people like the look? What is their problem? Needless to say, I would never be a friend to a person that supports this or a person who likes it regardless of lost sensitivity, regardless of religion or not. Those people to me, are the same people who become suicide bombers and kill gays.

Sometimes in bed, when my heart palpitates, I think I might die. I sometimes hope I do, but I don't. I gasp a little and breath deeply for oxygen. I forget to eat for hours when I think about this horrible subject. As I am writing this, I forgot to eat or drink in the past 5 hours. It's actually 3:45 AM right now. I am very tired, but I cannot handle keeping these thoughts inside me.

Atleast once a day I am depressed for more then 1 hour on this. And to think it wasn't my fault. It is like being born without legs, but worse, because someone did this to me. I could accept a deformity by nature, but that somebody did this to me... I cannot. Especially because it was a female. That makes it 10x worse. That evil little bitch. If I find her I'll circumcise her pretty little vagina. Regardless if she saw the errors of her ways. That may seem evil, but not half as evil as never even getting to be complete for the first hours of my life. I will never forgive her. And I know I will never forgive my parents.

To think, this is all society's fault, but that some people are so unwilling to speak up about it and stop it sickens me. They just take everything for granted, so they just do what they are taught.

We're humans, we're better then this. But why aren't we being better then this? This confuses, and sickens me. I am at a total loss that I am born at this time and they have this weird tradition of cutting off parts of my penis. No one has that right to violate my body like that. It should not even be an issue, but some little fuck had to make something out of nothing. I guess one could say the same thing about gay rights. I don't even know why the fuck there is a "gay rights." It should be rights period, no fucking sexual preference listed. I'm sorry, but I believe sexual preference shouldn't give you different rights, you idiotic heterosexual christians. That's like saying there should be a "black rights."

If you're a circumciser, these questions need to be asked to you:
Do you enjoy destroying one's body? Do you enjoy destroying one's mind? Does hippocrates law not apply to you? Is this what your "god" tells you to do?

I believe, my body and mind were destroyed by this. I guess in one way, I am strengthened. But I would rather never have had this pain in the first place.

It's 4:00 AM. I took about 20 minutes out of my time to write this, and edit it.
 
If I could delete this for the sheer homicidal tendencies it has I would but I can't even PM a mod, let alone email any of them. And the edit options are disabled.
I regret putting this up here, but I hope no one takes offense to it.
For the record, I'm gay, if that didn't make any sense.
And no I'm not against religions or females. But I sure wrote like I was.
 
Jamian said:
If I could delete this for the sheer homicidal tendencies it has I would.
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Lighten up, Francis.

Hey man, don't apologize for letting your insides spill out. How the F are people supposed to work through their grief otherwise? I've had the palpitations thing in the past. I think I'm through with it, and then I see something online or hear from some guy who just discovered that half his fucking sensations are missing, and I have another round of grief.

But the fact that I'm so close to being restored helps me put it out of my mind. I'm just thankful that I didn't find out about restoration any later in life.

-Ron
 
Thanks guys. I do feel better that people know where I'm coming from.
I tried to output my anger in a positive way by becoming a body builder (outputting one's anger doesn't work like that, because they're not going to be angry every time they work out).
But that is bullshit, I wanted to have abs. Eventually, that evolved to wanting become jacked, and now I want the ability to be able to eat everything in sight and be able to burn it all off.
So now, I am vegan, human/gay/animal rights activist, anti-circumcision. And to me, I am in my own eyes perfect in that way.
What was the point of stating that? I don't know, but I was on a roll.
Ah well, life is mysterious, and humans are odd creatures.
Thanks for the greetings. Oh... and happy new year for those who care :D
 
I liked reading that. Welcome to the dark side. :)

It definitely doesn't do much to help depression or self-confidence when you feel like there is something missing there. You are probably in the Anger phase of the grief cycle (denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance) Most of us have been there. If you are proactive, you restore and make your body whole again.
 
Thanks for the comments guys. I guess I should give a little background though, because some of you are probably thinking "this guy just found out about this."

All my life my surroundings have been pretty harsh on me. I am not just talking about circumcision. I have 2 autistic younger brothers. Thus, I never really found the time to talk to my parents. My dad always had to work, and for my mom, clean the house. And when they weren't doing that, they were busy dealing with my younger brothers.

I was overweight, but I really didn't notice it. And no one really said I was fat either (and they still say I wasn't fat before,) except for my mom. Last year, I did something about it though, when I noticed I was indeed overweight. I weighed 207 pounds at 5'6 and my doctor (the last time I saw him was a year ago, I never want to see him again after I found out he supports circumcision) was telling me I should lose weight. Actually, most of the weight was from my legs, from playing dance dance revolution. I was always an expert in the things that I liked. Why not take them all the way to the edge?

Getting back on track, I decided to indeed lose weight. I weigh 150 now at about 5'7 or 5'8, probably around 12% body fat. I lost the first 50 pounds after researching many things on the internet and buying an online manual on burnthefat.com along with becoming vegan. I applied my own knowledge after that point on from what I learned from every internet site and book I read. Which, then took up weight training and later became a body builder, gaining about 7.5 (in case you're not keeping track, this puts me at 165 pounds,) and finally lost 15 pounds on a cutting phase and I am still currently going on that.

With being vegan, by the way, I love animals (I am a furry, feel free to look that up if you wish,) and believe mass producing them and killing them is totally wrong. I thought by being vegetarian that you are supporting the same people who kill the cows after milking them. And for all they care, as long as they make money they will continue to do both. Which is kind of like saying you want infant circumcision but not circumcision itself totally outlawed. You're giving the incentive to the doctors when a person is at the legal age to be pushed into the operation by the doctor, so that the doctor can make more money. Needless to say, they are both absolutely disgusting.

Now to how circumcision really affects me...

I have been severely depressed about this for more then 1 year, and I have been to 3 psychiatrists and am currently seeing 1 psychologist right now.

The first psychiatrist was to evaluate how depressed I was, and evaluated me on 4 out of 10 on a scale. This was in the beginning, when I was depressed and confused about who I was.

The second psychiatrist was a four winds to evaluate whether my family was hurting me or not. They weren't, so that was rather a useless evaluation forced by a school.

The third psychiatrist was to evaluate my intelligence on a percentile, which I scored in 97%. He tried to cheer me up by saying only 3% of the people of the world were smarter then me. That didn't really say anything about my condition, but at least I knew I wasn't stupid. He also said that I was severely depressed and could qualify for medication if I opted to.

No, of course I didn't want any medication, I wanted to feel the way I do without anything changing it. My psychologist also keeps telling me that she thinks medication will help.

Why? To dull the pain that others around cause me? No thanks, I'll pass. She says she's alright with that, but she still recommends it. I will probably stop seeing her because it's now becoming a waste of time and money to be told only medication can help.

During the time I am depressed, I write songs and draw. I don't do it as much as I used to. Mostly, I just further research circumcision and try to find an answer. The question isn't to clear to me really and neither is the answer. What am I looking for? I guess I am looking for a reason to try to continue life.

Occasionally, once or twice people have asked me "Maybe this goes deeper then circumcision." Maybe it does, but I am too hurt by the subject itself to really explore it deeper. But, I have thought of it. I am at a crossroad with suicide and being atheist. There's no point to dying at such an early age as one of my friends told me, but I think I am trying to find a reason to die at this early at my life, so I do not have to continue dealing with the same pain and the new pain to come.

Onto foreskin restoration...

I have found in my research, that with new skin, new nerve endings do not grow. That is probably the only difference in restored cut men and uncut men. The nerve endings that are there are rather stretched, and loss of sensitivity occurs because of this stretching. However, the loss really probably isn't noticeable, though, and is of course worth the following benefits: Keratin (an insoluble protein substance, in this case that forms on the glans from exposure to harsh conditions) breaks down and can be completely rid of. During sex, the head was supposed to be massaged by the foreskin, not the vaginal/anal walls. This increases sensitivity for at least of course the male partner, if not both partners.

I have included in my signature, how exactly I felt about being circumcised. The paragraphs are directed at multiple people. But it focuses on one main group, the circumcised. It's harsh, but I feel it's the only way I want to get my message across.

Well, I feel a lot better after I got that off of my chest.

If you have taken time out of your day to read this, thank you. If at least one person reads this, then I know it was all worth the time it took.

PS: I actually found this site through the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tlctugger[/words].com. So there's no need to give me any links on that. I've researched and I've pretty much seen every site that has to do with foreskin.
 
But when you are restored, you can feel the movement of the foreskin over the glans. And the nerve endings might stretch, but it will feel better than before because they will be protected.

I have been severely depressed as well, but it does get better. You never know what will happen later in your life.

Do you have any inner foreskin left? Do you still have your frenulum? I figure when I am done restoring, it will function and appear very similarly to a real one that I had for 2 days. >:(
 
Vectormatch said:
But when you are restored, you can feel the movement of the foreskin over the glans. And the nerve endings might stretch, but it will feel better than before because they will be protected.

I have been severely depressed as well, but it does get better. You never know what will happen later in your life.

Do you have any inner foreskin left? Do you still have your frenulum? I figure when I am done restoring, it will function and appear almost like a real one that I had for 2 days. >:(
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There is no point for me. I have decided just to give up on caring about this, and to never have sex in my life. I am just in the unlucky 10% of the population of the world. I hope in the future, circumcision will be totally abolished. I was just born in the wrong time, I guess.

I also hope others don't end up like me. I am depressed, confused, and lost. And it is stupid to believe that it will get better. I will keep living if it means I can help others turn out okay, though.

Regardless of what people think, whether they think I am crazy or I am just plain stupid, I have been this way for (atleast in my mind,) a long time. I believe I feel more comfortable staying this way though... I don't feel like living in denial and I know it is the only way I will still stay strong about the subject. I know I am mutilated, broken, incomplete. I was marred at birth. I don't know if I really accept myself the way it is. I know I can't have it any other way though.

I don't think much people care really about how I feel though, so I will stop there. Feel free to throw that much around as you guys want.
 
Don't worry bud, 90% of guys have had this operation. Actually, most guys who haven't been circumsized say they try to hide their foreskin by pulling it back when their penis is exposed, and most girls think the sight of an uncircumsized penis is gross. You know there are ways to restore your foreskin if you really see the need.
 
goldmember said:
Don't worry bud, 90% of guys have had this operation. Actually, most guys who haven't been circumsized say they try to hide their foreskin by pulling it back when their penis is exposed, and most girls think the sight of an uncircumsized penis is gross. You know there are ways to restore your foreskin if you really see the need.
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Why the fuck would I care about their horrible opinions? Did you even read anything I wrote? I don't care about those fucks who prefer an amputated dick over the one that one was naturally born with.

10% of the people in the world are circumcised. You're horribly off.
 
all i can say is chill out man! like you say - you cant change it, its done! sometimes its better to accept something the way it is and be happy than worry and stress about things that are just making you depressed. at least you CAN have sex, tell that to all the impotent guys! smile and be happy dude!! :)
 
EVO said:
all i can say is chill out man! like you say - you cant change it, its done! sometimes its better to accept something the way it is and be happy than worry and stress about things that are just making you depressed. at least you CAN have sex, tell that to all the impotent guys! smile and be happy dude!! :)
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I don't think I can, or for that matter, want to accept someone mutilated me.

That to me, would be crazy.

And that is disgusting rubbing in a man's face who is impotent the fact that I can have erections. That would be like a uncircumcised man rubbing the fact that he was uncircumcised and I wasn't. I can't control fate, and neither could the impotent man.

It doesn't change the way I feel about the situation, though. Something that wasn't my fault and was caused by another human being, like I said, I really can't accept. It hurts to try.
 
Jamian said:
And that is disgusting rubbing in a man's face who is impotent the fact that I can have erections.
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hHydromaxmm, your attitude is very negative to every comment, to people trying to help you, out of pure kindness! i wasnt rubbing an impotent mans face in it, i was trying to put things into perspective for you. if your only purpose in this forum is to create a negative atmosphere, and say negative things about the people who are trying to help you - then you deserve to be banned!
if however you are actually trying to help yourself in what ever way possible - maybe growing your foreskin back!? im sure theres plenty of people willing to help.
 
Jamian,

You received nice support here. You obviously hurt and need to get pass that stage and that next step would be part of a 'maturity' which you don't have at this point.

Try see the common ground here and start growing up. People are trying to help you. Keeping all that stress and anger will make you a sick and bitter person. Look at the positive and I'm sure there's plenty if you open your eyes.
 
I am sorry it may seem I am this "negative person." However, evo, I do not think you saying to me that I should be banned helps when I am doing nothing wrong by defending myself by giving my opinion.

It is obvious I am probably not the most casual person here at the forums. I tend to go deeper into things that most people normally don't. Sometimes I wish I could not care about this issue at all. But I am not that kind of person. And frankly if there are no people like me I know this problem will not go away.

I appreciate the comments that have been encouraging and helpful, please do not get me wrong. I don't however, appreciate someone saying my state is normal and trying to push me into denial. I already accept my fate and who I am. I wrote the things I did so I could get how circumcision has effected me.

I only found one person however I did respond negatively to and that was goldmember. And I do not wish to take that response back, because I was brushed off with a comment like "you need serious help man." When a person skims over my feelings, gives me little insight and ignore my stances, and then responds again saying I have serious problems, I can't really just think nothing of it. I have to say something. Not saying something is what made me depressed in the first place.

I realize now that goldmember you may have said that to make me feel better. However, it unfortunately made me feel worse. It made me feel like no one was listening to me again. And that is how many people have treated me. It however was the thought that counts, as I do now see that.

I do not wish however to point fingers. I think misconception probably was the main reason everyone turned against me. I am sorry to the people who thought I was being negative. It was completely unintentional. Sometimes, I am too overwhelmed with stress to come up with a nicer way of saying things. I apologize for not trying to explain any deeper, but at the time, and right now even, I am very tapped out on this situation and the way my life is going right now.

So I hope no one takes anything personally from me. Unless I say something about you as a person, I am not trying to insult you.
 
It has been said before and I will say it again: you need to grow up a little man. It would have been nice if your dad took you on a camping trip when you were younger and had it so that you could only live off the game that you hunted. It would have maybe made a man out of you. Native Americans love and respect nature, yet they don't think all this vegan bullshit is necessary. And I stand by the figure I gave you, that 90% of all men from developed nations are circumsized. I don't see the big fucking deal, but it pleases me to know that you will never have sex, and I hope you don't know about in vitro fertilization either. The world will be better off. The fact that your shrinks tell you that you are in the top 3% of all brains in the world really scares me...that we have complete imbiciles analyzing people's minds or that there are a whole lot of brain-dead zombies walking around. Honestly, you need some serious help.
 
You're the one that needs to grow up. Me being vegan has nothing to do with any of this conversation. Stop resorting to personal insults. I take back what I said about you.

And no, I am not told by my psychologist that I was smart. I was tested by psychiatrists (note the difference in the letters) with a few of the USA's intelligence tests and that is what I got.

You don't see the big deal because you aren't seeing past the surface. You seem to do just what you are taught in school. America's circumcision rate is 60%, and it is declining. You need to face the facts, cutting off a part of the penis that one is born with that makes it whole and fully functional makes it worse.

I even gave you the benefit of the doubt in my last post. I thought you went deeper then you first acted. I gave you a second chance and all you do is give me a load of crap. You sicken me.

Stop with this "you need help" crap. Why do you think that the 3 psychiatrists that analyzed me are all complete imbeciles? You're the one that needs help if you really believe that.

Why are you even in this part of the forum? You sound like you don't even know anything about circumcision. Have you researched any of this? Have you read any of the useful information and links that other people have provided in this forum? I doubt so. Or else you might have sounded like you knew what you were talking about. They actually took their time to compile lists so that people like you don't spread those lies and outdated facts.
 
Jamian,

Look, let's cool it. I never said that I was for or against circumcision, and YES, I have even seen circumcisions performed and say it is God aweful. Will I have my future son circumcized? Most likely yes. I don't want my son going through life thinking he is different from everyone else, hiding his foreskin and afraid to take public showers and let girls see what's under his shorts. I think that being ashamed or embarrased by one's penis is one of the worst things a man can experience, so I will likely opt to have my future son circumcized. And I do fully understand that the only reason the uncircumcised penis is viewed as ugly or weird is because it was decided to make the circumcized penis the norl...I wish the trend was opposite, or that only Jewish boys were circumcized, but unfortunately, that is not the case. I hate to say that I would do this for the sake of conformity, but sadly the world is not very accepting of things that are not ordinary.

We have our differences, and let's just put them aside. Yes I do know the difference between a psychologist and a psychiatrist, but I figured you were speaking about a psychiatrist given that you mentioned prescription drugs. I apologize for insulting your intelligence by doing what I thought was correcting you. Are you religious? Because it seems that you are, judging by the basis of most of your posts.
 
goldmember said:
And I stand by the figure I gave you, that 90% of all men from developed nations are circumsized.
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90% of the guys in the US aren't even circumcised. Let alone in Canada, Europe, Australia, Japan, Mexico, Scandinavia, ...And in those cultures, it is the circumcised guys that feel out of place. Uncircumcised guys are the normal ones, we are not.

You have to understand that we feel ashamed and embarrassed by having a circumcised penis.
 
Jamain. It seems that people have tried to be nice and supportive to you. Especially Goldmember. You have responded negatively on a repetative basis to attempted help. The least that you could do is be nice even if the help was not effective. They were still trying to help you.
 
First, I think the whole "nerves don't grow back" is a misconception. Yes, once someone has a brain or spinal injury, those nerves are forever damaged. However, foreskin restoration is done through skin expansion, which means you are growing new skin, not stretching the old skin longer. The new skin grown is not just as mass of dead skin cells. This skin is living tissue, and comes with all the other structures required to keep it alive... circulatory structures, glands, hair follicles... and yes, nerves. It's the real deal. Now, if you were, say, stretching your earlobes, you would create earlobe skin, earlobe nerves, earlobe capillaries and cartilage... basically whatever stuff is in there composing the tissue you have stretched. Since we are tensing inner and outer shaft skin, the components of foreskin, what we end up with is...yes... foreskin. To me, it's a pretty simple thing.

Did you know that legs and arms can be lengthened with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words]? Yes, entire limbs, and that includes skin, muscles, veins and bones. Now, if one can generate a couple inches of human limb, does it seem so hopeless to recreate a few inches of foreskin?

My personal experience is that when people complain that it is never going to be perfect and so they cannot bring themselves to restore, they are just being lazy whiners and will likely never have the drive and determination to do the work. Instead of saying, I want a foreskin but I am just to lazy to do it, they come up will all kinds of lame excuses why the task, for them, is insurmountable or not worth their time. You are being honest about your feelings concerning your circumcision. Now be honest why you aren't going to restore.
 
Jamian, child. When a person is confronted with a given situation, that person has three choices as to how he or she may respond. (If you know of any more options other that what I'll present then please let me know.)

1. Accept it. Realize you have no control whatsoever over the past and very little actual control over the present. You do, however, have total control over how you choose to respond. Much peace and maturity can be gained through acceptance.

2. Ignore it. This runs the entire range from refusing to let truly inconsequential matters intrude into your life to full blown denial of fatal or catastrophic situations. Much wisdom and perspective can be gained through realizing the difference between that which should be ignored and that which should not.

3. Change it. Recognition of your ability to change your environment (anything in, on or around you) to whatever degree necessary with whatever skills you possess and the energy or effort necessary to effect that change will very often give someone a much deeper appreciation of their inherent talents as well as limitations. Much strength can be both realized and developed by working to change your environment even when one is unsuccessful in the endeavor.

Simply being bitter at your own past and the world in general is self-destructive. Being negative and caustic toward those who could help you is a form of self-pity which produces your self imposed isolation. And if you've already decided on your entire life-path based upon the loss of about two grams of flesh then you really have no need of interaction with anyone further on this subject, so why do you persist? Perhaps you so crave attention and acceptance that any form of interaction, even derisive, is welcome.
Most people don't realize that they themselves are both the source and solution to the vast majority of their own problems. Your circumcision is a CONDITION your choice of response is your PROBLEM. Learn the difference, and how to deal with it.
 
Thanks for the responses, but as a prospering scientist, yes, nerve endings do not grow back when skin is stretched, and keratin does not shed off contrary to popular belief. There are however enzymes that can break down keratin, but even popular sites like wikipedia have test conclusions that there is the same level of keratin in before and after.

Now, in a few years, through nanotechnology I have been researching with my mate, he believes he can properly reverse this without the need of skin stretching and get back the ridged band. Now, I am not going to go through the details here, so if you want you should research it. He has been to college and has taken a full course on it. He is thinking of going back to college, but we might just wait until someone else does it.

--Jamian
 
Do you mean "aspiring" scientist, or "prospering" scientist?

Like I said, we are not stretching skin. We are growing new skin. No, you cannot repair old damaged nerves, but you can create new nerves to go along with the new skin, at which time a phenomenom called "nueral plasticity" kicks in and incorporates the new nerve feedback.

I think it's funny that you are quite willing to believe in and quote the countless pro-circumcision studies published on the internet, all of which try very hard (at the expense of truth) to justify this old body-scarring ritual. It's very hard for a culture to abandon old rites and beliefs sometimes. Yet, the thousands of restorers who, every day, report their progress and experiences as objetively as possible, are dismissed as quacks and nutjobs... solely because they don't fall in line and march with the rest of the sheep into the slaughterhouse.

Nanotechnology is an interesting idea, but unless you plan to be cryogenically frozen and thawed out on the Starship Enterprise three hundred years from now, I think you can safely abandon that magic pill.

It's okay if you don't have the gumption to restore. It's not an easy thing to do. It requires dedication and a willingness to commit for years to the process. But don't try to justify your lack of fortitude by joining the ranks of the pro-circers now that you know the truth. That would be true cowardice. The truth is the truth, and it will win out no matter how many men try to cover it up, and no matter how much money is at stake for the medical industry and the shadowy human flesh market.
 
Please, benching pressing 300 pounds requires dedication. Stretching your skin requires a piece of tape. There's no dedication in false hope. Nerves can only be stretched and the nerve endings will thus be more spread out. And of course there is no recovering of the ridged band.

And no, I don't "believe in the pro-circumcision sites," I asked the question to myself before I ever considered anything on those sites to be true and came to the conclusion through discussion with others that it is indeed true. I remember it even clearly being taught in science class and asking my teacher afterwards about it.

I actually AM a prospering scientist. But this is internet, it means nothing to me.

And to reinstate, I believe fully in nanotechnology. I have discussed with others and it definately seems to be the best method.
 
goldmember said:
Will I have my future son circumcized? Most likely yes. I don't want my son going through life thinking he is different from everyone else
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The rate of cutting in the US is now about 50/50 and dropping. Worldwide, 85% are intact. California cuts around 30%, Canada less.

-Ron
 
Not an insult, a valid question. Post 33 has no relevance to anything previous that I can see. I was simply wondering if there was, perhaps, an organic or congenital explanation for your condition.
 
Jamian said:
I remember it even clearly being taught in science class and asking my teacher afterwards about it.
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There are doctors who don't know dick about penis, so you're going to lay any weight on something a teacher said?

Restoration is not a waste of time. No matter what you call it, or how you measure the surface of the glans, IT FEELS WAY BETTER after the glans has been covered by ones own skin for a while. No matter what you say about nerve regeneration, intercourse IS WAY BETTER for both parties with a slinky tube of slack skin (not to mention autosexuality).
 
Hey, Jamian:

nanotech, well I appreciate that possibility. I also look into weakly pulsed silver electric fields for true regeneration -- but;

Heres my question to you [I am a restorer]:

Which scenario is more likely to bring you happiness, or relief, sooner: putting faith in a theoretically successful procedure for years and years, and maybe in a few decades come to a *possible* solution [it is def. good to research, but something like regeneration requires $$$ and patience with bureaucratic interferences], OR, beginning a restoring regimen?

Think about it. Admit the possibility, at least -- that skin-expansion [not tension, expansion] can produce, at least, more-than-satisfactory results that may be worth your attention. I say this because Ive been where you are now. Angry as hell and upset too, etc, all at the same time - and now Ive been on a regimen for a while, I look forward to doing it.
 
kong1971 said:
thousands of restorers who, every day, report their progress and experiences as objetively as possible, are dismissed as quacks and nutjobs
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I am not a nut job. I love my restored foreskin.

-Ron
 
Jason1 said:
how long did it take
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That photo is from 3.5 years. I started 4/1/2001 with an average cut-guy's amount of skin. I'm not aware of anyone using that C# coverage scale back then. There's a photo on my site's [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]Tugger[/words] page from 3 months. I have one or two earlier photos, but the focus, lighting, and color are really awful.
 
dingdong said:
Hey, Jamian:

nanotech, well I appreciate that possibility. I also look into weakly pulsed silver electric fields for true regeneration -- but;

Heres my question to you [I am a restorer]:

Which scenario is more likely to bring you happiness, or relief, sooner: putting faith in a theoretically successful procedure for years and years, and maybe in a few decades come to a *possible* solution [it is def. good to research, but something like regeneration requires $$$ and patience with bureaucratic interferences], OR, beginning a restoring regimen?

Think about it. Admit the possibility, at least -- that skin-expansion [not tension, expansion] can produce, at least, more-than-satisfactory results that may be worth your attention. I say this because Ive been where you are now. Angry as hell and upset too, etc, all at the same time - and now Ive been on a regimen for a while, I look forward to doing it.
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Only psychologically if I can never accomplish my goal of reverting back to normal, but then again, maybe not even phsychologically with the way I am. I guess my decision won't effect you guys though. I'll be putting money from being a nutritionist and competing in bodybuilding competitions into it, and definately my free time as a scientist. Just want this pain to stop already, mine, and everyone else's. It isn't right to suffer for other's wrong doings, when you don't even control who you are born as.
 
Hey Jamian,

I'll give you a suggestion to help put an end to your grotesque and pathetic, self-indulgent whining. If you've got so much free time and money; why don't you go volunteer at your local VA hospital and see the true mutilation being suffered by my brothers and sisters in arms who are defending our nation, and its way of life, so that people like you have the luxury of inventing personal crises to draw attention to themselves.
Young men and women crippled, maimed, broken and shattered beyond all hope of effective recovery. Limbs, organs, eyesight, hearing gone forever due to indiscriminate acts of unimaginable violence.

Or perhaps you can go to your local burn unit and spend some quality time changing dressings or helping to debride some second and third degree (or much worse) burn victims. Victims of arson. Victims of assault. Victims of domestic violence. Victims of terrorist attacks. Victims of horrendous, life threatening, excruciating and all too often fatal burns.

Better yet; go to the nearest hospital that has a juvenile cancer ward. You could stand to learn quite a bit from 4, 5, 6 year-old children who are facing their own imminent, painful deaths with far more grace and dignity than you've displayed here with your egregious sniveling about two grams of foreskin. Children who are undergoing chemical therapy. Children suffering through radiation therapy. Children enduring multiple invasive surgeries. Children who are completely aware of their own inevitible, premature deaths and yet still enjoy life to the fullest extent their conditions afford them.
Children who show courage and faith in abundances you seem fully incapable even conceiving of.

Do these things and I guarantee your pathetic mewling will come rapidly to an end. If it doesn't then you are beyond hope.
 
Maxameyes, all terrific advice, but lemme give ya a tip: never try to reason with insanity.
MAXAMEYES said:
Hey Jamian,

I'll give you a suggestion to help put an end to your grotesque and pathetic, self-indulgent whining. If you've got so much free time and money; why don't you go volunteer at your local VA hospital and see the true mutilation being suffered by my brothers and sisters in arms who are defending our nation, and its way of life, so that people like you have the luxury of inventing personal crises to draw attention to themselves.
Young men and women crippled, maimed, broken and shattered beyond all hope of effective recovery. Limbs, organs, eyesight, hearing gone forever due to indiscriminate acts of unimaginable violence.

Or perhaps you can go to your local burn unit and spend some quality time changing dressings or helping to debride some second and third degree (or much worse) burn victims. Victims of arson. Victims of assault. Victims of domestic violence. Victims of terrorist attacks. Victims of horrendous, life threatening, excruciating and all too often fatal burns.

Better yet; go to the nearest hospital that has a juvenile cancer ward. You could stand to learn quite a bit from 4, 5, 6 year-old children who are facing their own imminent, painful deaths with far more grace and dignity than you've displayed here with your egregious sniveling about two grams of foreskin. Children who are undergoing chemical therapy. Children suffering through radiation therapy. Children enduring multiple invasive surgeries. Children who are completely aware of their own inevitible, premature deaths and yet still enjoy life to the fullest extent their conditions afford them.
Children who show courage and faith in abundances you seem fully incapable even conceiving of.

Do these things and I guarantee your pathetic mewling will come rapidly to an end. If it doesn't then you are beyond hope.
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You people are fucked up. Stop dwelling so much on me and worry about yourselves. Just because something doesn't affect you doesn't mean it shouldn't affect me.

Maybe you have problems of your own if you get so upset over an internet penis forum.
 
As you continue to snivel in your oh-so-pathetic and far too public fashion you will invariably continue to invite the derision of those such as myself. If this derision offends your drama queen sensibilities; stop inviting.
 
you guys are assholes. just because there are people in worse situations than Jamian doesn't mean he shouldn't be upset. try having a little sympathy for someone who's hurting instead of making snide remarks with no constructive motivation at all.

Jamian, if you would like someone to talk to about this, who won't make fun of you, send me an email at [email protected], or AIM me, GotHydromaxog09

I know how you feel now, I've been there. just trust me, it really will get better.
 
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