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You guys who own a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] have to try this out for penis soreness/irritation after a work out. Below is a pic of one of my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] foam cushions hanging on my wall, for easy access, next to my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] bag. Below that is the video of me using the Penis Massaging Tool which now has a double purpose in my PE Tool Box. Hope this works for you as well as it does for me. It's the greatest way that I have found so far to massage your penis without any messy creams/lotions and it's reusable. If you don't own an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words], you can still get the foam cushion online directly from [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words].
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youknowme123321;601186 said:
I am speaking as a former nurse with a background in wound care as well as a Licensed Massage Therapist.

Skin to skin contact when performing massage is actually beneficial over the use of barrier such as a foam pad. After a PE session if there is no skin irritation skin to skin massage will not cause any skin irritation unless the massage was very vigorous and caused a great deal of friction...this is unlikely though b/c the skin moves with the thumb and the massage is focused to the underly CT of the penis and not the skin.

now if there is skin irritation it is possible that all massage should be avoided. this depends on the extent of skin irritation. if the skin is just a lil red and not sensitive to touch...light slow massage could still be beneficial. if there is sensitivity to touch or any skin breakdown...massage to that area would best be avoided unless using some type of healing lubricant such as coconut oil. You could also just massage around the irritated area.

a foam pad is a slightly abrasive material. if set on using a barrier for massage it would be best to use a smoother material such as silk or even cotton. If there is any skin irritation present a foam pad could worsen the irritation. Now if just doing a few minutes of light penile massage it is unlikely to worsen any current skin irritation but it won't help heal the skin either. if this massage is performed regularly enough it could actually slow the healing process.

You were listening to music with an upbeat quick rhythm. i am betting this led you you unconsciously performing your penis massage using those quick strokes and quick circular motions. It is best to use slow relaxing music when performing massage on yourself or others b.c often without notice the therapist will move with the music playing. Quicker strokes have their places in massage (most pre-event sports massage) but long slower strokes are best for healing in this case of post-workout penile tissue massage.

Your idea was in a good place it just comes with its hinderances. Below is a video i made a while back showing how i massage my penis with my hands. You'll see the skin moving with my fingers...my thumbs never slide over the skin. if my thumbs were to be sliding over the skin with no lubricant that could lead to skin irritation if done for long enough of a duration. Since the skin is moving with my fingers it is the barrier used between my skin and the CT of the penis below the penile skin. The CT is where the massage is focused to. Now with all this said... it is unlikely for any penile massage, whether using dry hands or a foam pad, to lead to skin irritation if no irritation was already present before the massage began. this is because it doesn't take great pressure to massage the penile tissue and the massage is performed for a short period usually...5 minutes or less. If skin irritation is present...be cautious or use a lubricant of some type.


[jw]http://mosvideo.s3.amazonaws.com/1409062431-MAssage.mov[/jw]
I am speaking as a retired mechanical engineer with a background working at Stanford University in the physics department, that you are missing the point here. Mine is not a Therapeutic massage for your penis. It is just a quick massage using the foam cushion instead of your fingers since your penis is already sore there. There is no hinderances to my idea and the foam cushion is Not that abrasive and that's why [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] chose to use it with their [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] device.

I have plenty of relaxing music to listen to, that piece just happened to be on when I shot the video. Try not to be such a know it all next time you watch one of my video's. Please comment about the video and not something you see that you can correct. In regards to your video here, For example:Your video here is a little out of focus and the background noise is distracting. I suggest you keep your audio turned off and keep the video focused at all times. ;)
 
AHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Guys, I remember that damn wrap thread, but please, PLEASE, hold no grudge for each other. You are both AMAZING contributers to the brotherhood and I would be very happy to see every post of yours to stand for the improvement of the brotherhood instead of trying to find something to judge about.

Now, please I do not support any of your personal fights and I am all about how I feel- but I think youknow's answer was a pretty good one. NO OFFENSE ADF :)! Love you brothers, gotta go to work, cya! :)
 
ADF;601193 said:
I am speaking as a retired mechanical engineer with a background working at Stanford University in the physics department, that you are missing the point here. Mine is not a Therapeutic massage for your penis. It is just a quick massage using the foam cushion instead of your fingers since your penis is already sore there. There is no hinderances to my idea and the foam cushion is Not that abrasive and that's why [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] chose to use it with their [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] device.

I have plenty of relaxing music to listen to, that piece just happened to be on when I shot the video. Try not to be such a know it all next time you watch one of my video's. Please comment about the video and not something you see that you can correct. In regards to your video here, For example:Your video here is a little out of focus and the background noise is distracting. I suggest you keep your audio turned off and keep the video focused at all times. ;)

WOAH!! I did not expect this response...i seem to have struck a nerve with you...sorry for this. trying to provide constructive info...my apologies it bothered you.

I mentioned my background in skin care and massage b/c it is pertinent to the subject posted on this DISCUSSION forum. I did not understand yours was not a therapeutic massage for the penis. You mentioned most guys using their fingers to massage there cock after an intense session that leaves them sore...i thought you were massaging to decrease the soreness which would make the massage a therapeutic massage.

Foam is slightly abrasive...that why sponges/scrubber are made of it. they can scrub stuff off b/c of there mild abrasiveness. below is a link to a sponge made of material like the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] foam ring. [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] uses the foam ring b/c it is placed in non moving position on the penis and it is also able to grip the penis. It's mild abrasiveness is the reason why it works for grip. if it were moving constantly over the penis skin it could lead to irritation.
http://www.suntekstore.com/goods.php?id=10009731&utm_source=gbus&utm_medium=paid

I believe you do have a lot of music. i brought it up b/c your movements were fast and quick and slower movements prove more beneficial for the relief of sore tissue. I attributed this fast movement to the quick paced music playing. I presume if you would have happened to have something slower on your technique probably would have been as well but that is just a guess. Sometimes when I am massaging clients a faster track comes on and i catch myself moving to the music without even noticing i was doing it at first.

having information to share on a subject doesn't make someone a know-it-all. this is a DISCUSSION forum where thing are posted for discussion. If I can provide any pertinent info to posts on this forum I will. and there are also many posts on here I don't chime in on b/c I'm unable to.

As for my video thank you for the constructive info. This was one of my first vids i posted and the lighting wasn't great. luckily it is still observable as i am not a videographer and the purpose of the video can easily be seen still. As for the sound ya i never noticed it...my volume was down the few times i watched it lol...that's the easiest solution to watching a video with no words but some background noise if someone were to find it distracting. so here is my new video with you suggestions taken into account :)
[jw]http://mosvideo.s3.amazonaws.com/1409075788-Massage_Penis.mov[/jw]
 
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youknowme123321;601220 said:
WOAH!! I did not expect this response...i seem to have struck a nerve with you...sorry for this. trying to provide constructive info...my apologies it bothered you.
Lolrofl It didn't bother me and I'm not upset. I am Moderating your post and telling you to change your posting style so it includes a kind comment about a video before you go off topic with a rant. Try and not be so argumentative in your posts to others especially the Moderators since that can lead to an infraction.
 
ADF;601259 said:
Lolrofl It didn't bother me and I'm not upset. I am Moderating your post and telling you to change your posting style so it includes a kind comment about a video before you go off topic with a rant. Try and not be so argumentative in your posts to others especially the Moderators since that can lead to an infraction.

oh my mistake again lol...when you called me a know it all and told me i should comment on the video (which is what my entire post was about) that made it seem like you didn't like/were upset by my discussion comment.

my original entire comment was based on your post/video. nothing in my original response was about anything else other than what you wrote/showed in the video. there was no ranting off topic at all. literally every sentence i wrote was about the original topic of massage, soreness, and skin irritation, and the foam ring. I don't see where my post was argumentative? i only see information but my apologies it comes off as argumentative towards you as my only purpose was to share pertinent and factual information.

In your first response to me (post #3) you said i was missing your point and that your massage is not a therapeutic massage? Can you share the purpose of the your massage? I've never known of any massage technique to not have the main purpose of being therapeutic in some form whether it is focused towards muscle soreness/healing, relaxation, stress relief, etc etc. I really am interested/curious about this as i enjoy learning new things to expand my knowledge base...thank you
 
YKM Your posts can come across as know it all from time to time. Just a little FYI. Sometimes asking for more insight what is stated instead of trying to state or show evidence to contradict what the OP says could come across better. Just an outsiders perspective...
 
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youknowme123321;601301 said:
oh my mistake again lol...when you called me a know it all and told me i should comment on the video (which is what my entire post was about) that made it seem like you didn't like/were upset by my discussion comment.

my original entire comment was based on your post/video. nothing in my original response was about anything else other than what you wrote/showed in the video. there was no ranting off topic at all. literally every sentence i wrote was about the original topic of massage, soreness, and skin irritation, and the foam ring. I don't see where my post was argumentative? i only see information but my apologies it comes off as argumentative towards you as my only purpose was to share pertinent and factual information.

In your first response to me (post #3) you said i was missing your point and that your massage is not a therapeutic massage? Can you share the purpose of the your massage? I've never known of any massage technique to not have the main purpose of being therapeutic in some form whether it is focused towards muscle soreness/healing, relaxation, stress relief, etc etc. I really am interested/curious about this as i enjoy learning new things to expand my knowledge base...thank you
The only purpose to my new penis massage tool is to use after one gets sore from using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] which you don't use so you know nothing about how it feels. It can at times cause tenderness and soreness on the penis where the cones make contact with the penis. So rubbing/massaging it with the foam cushion feels really great after such a workout, which can also leave little pinch creases so the foam cushion I use to massage out the creases. So there is your purpose for my whole thread which you have tainted with your persistence to try and set me right and to do things your way. Your knowledge base should now include this whole thread. What it has taught you about coming across as a know it all and being overly opinionated, you can ask Brother jakb.



jakb;601307 said:
YKM Your posts can come across as know it all from time to time. Just a little FYI. Sometimes asking for more insight what is stated instead of trying to state or show evidence to contradict what the OP says could come across better. Just an outsiders perspective...
 
Zambrodom3;601196 said:
AHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Guys, I remember that damn wrap thread, but please, PLEASE, hold no grudge for each other. You are both AMAZING contributers to the brotherhood and I would be very happy to see every post of yours to stand for the improvement of the brotherhood instead of trying to find something to judge about.

Now, please I do not support any of your personal fights and I am all about how I feel- but I think youknow's answer was a pretty good one. NO OFFENSE ADF :)! Love you brothers, gotta go to work, cya! :)

Zam - you are a reasonable person who sees everyone on here in a good light. no matter who shares info on any subject you are open, non judgmental, and assume they are always coming from a good place and never the other way around. You also aren't afraid to be wrong or apologize. I only know very little about you through your posts here but it shows many positive qualities.
 
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youknowme123321;601331 said:
ADF - I would enjoy your opinions/thoughts on the info i shared in my first post. that is all i am ever looking for on here...the sharing of info/thoughts on topics whether new info is learned or agreed.disagreed on.

One thing I'd enjoy discussing with you is you said skin to skin massage could further skin irritation. have you had this happen? if it has, were you using the same quick short massage strokes you used in your video?
Skin irritation in general doesn't happen to a penis unless there is abrasion as in dry masturbation or during PE for some reasons. People who don't PE are less prone to rashes, irritations and soreness to their penis. But we who are the PE'ers get sore and tender all the time. If your not getting sore and tender then you might not be doing it right. Even DLD says that discomfort and a little burning irritations are all part of the PE process.

Manual stretches are a good example of irritating the penis skin since you have to grab the foreskin and pull up to the bottom of your glands and hold it there for 30-60 seconds. After a while you get kinda sore there and a massage after said stretches would feel really good. But using my fingers I have already been doing for the last 3 years and believe me when I tell you that using the little foam cushion makes a big difference compared to using my fingers/thumb on dry skin. I can't use lube since I go right into the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] routine right after the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]/VLC combo routine. So the little foam cushion is perfect for my application and I think it will work fine for other as well.

Unless your a real Doctor, there's no need to do a soliloquy about the harmful effects of using a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] foam cushion as a massaging tool since you have no validity behind your statements. I do though know where your coming from as a former nurse.
 
ADF;601345 said:
Skin irritation in general doesn't happen to a penis unless there is abrasion as in dry masturbation or during PE for some reasons. People who don't PE are less prone to rashes, irritations and soreness to their penis. But we who are the PE'ers get sore and tender all the time. If your not getting sore and tender then you might not be doing it right. Even DLD says that discomfort and a little burning irritations are all part of the PE process.

Manual stretches are a good example of irritating the penis skin since you have to grab the foreskin and pull up to the bottom of your glands and hold it there for 30-60 seconds. After a while you get kinda sore there and a massage after said stretches would feel really good. But using my fingers I have already been doing for the last 3 years and believe me when I tell you that using the little foam cushion makes a big difference compared to using my fingers/thumb on dry skin. I can't use lube since I go right into the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] routine right after the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]/VLC combo routine. So the little foam cushion is perfect for my application and I think it will work fine for other as well.

Unless your a real Doctor, there's no need to do a soliloquy about the harmful effects of using a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] foam cushion as a massaging tool since you have no validity behind your statements. I do though know where your coming from as a former nurse.

thanks for your response...i enjoyed that. it clearly explained the information that was missing in the first post which led me to my post. I only enjoyed it till the end though when you told me i shouldn't comment. and since no one has any validity behind 99% of the statements made here should no one post anything. even if i lied and said i was a doctor that still wouldn't come with any validity. so unless someone is a doctor are your saying they shouldn't post about the body? most everything here is based on subjective info/experience sharing. and Doctors don't do what i did ;) good luck finding a doctor who knows how to change a Stage 4 pressure ulcer dressing. they know how to say "excuse me nurse, i don't know how to do that procedure or document the findings/degree/severity of the skin breakdown present. will you please do it otherwise it will likely become infected" and the one who aren't polite like that got a talking to.

in my first post, if you go back to it, at the end you will see i say a foam pad is unlikely to cause any skin damage b/c it isn't used for a long enough period of time and the massage isn't deep either. i put it below just in case you didnt want to go back looking for it. Again...thank you for that detailed response until the last sentence. i enjoyed learning more about your positive experience

youknowme123321;601186 said:
Now with all this said... it is unlikely for any penile massage, whether using dry hands or a foam pad, to lead to skin irritation if no irritation was already present before the massage began. this is because it doesn't take great pressure to massage the penile tissue and the massage is performed for a short period usually...5 minutes or less. If skin irritation is present...be cautious or use a lubricant of some type.
 
youknowme123321;601373 said:
I only enjoyed it till the end though when you told me i shouldn't comment. and since no one has any validity behind 99% of the statements made here should no one post anything. even if i lied and said i was a doctor that still wouldn't come with any validity. so unless someone is a doctor are your saying they shouldn't post about the body? most everything here is based on subjective info/experience sharing.
This statement/comment in itself is argumentative in it's nature since you already got the info from me that you desired. The proof is in the pudding, and you are an argumentative person by nature and I personally don't get along with your type of personality.

if you continue to be argumentative with others on this forum then you will eventually get an infraction, if not from me then from another mod. At least I bark a little and give you a warning, but Admin and the other mods don't work that way. They will just give you enough rope to hang yourself and the next thing you know you got banned. So I am being very patient with you in this regard. The list (seen only by admin and mods) of those who have been banned with little or no warning is a mile long so please for your sake stop trying to argue with me and others. or maybe it's just me who you like to argue with, but that's worse for you in the long end since I now have my finger on your ban button.

I don't know what else to tell you save for this is Not a day care center and I am not going to watch you like a hawk since I am always busy and don't have the time to walk behind you and make sure you are acting right. So please grow up and get more mature about how you post and what you say and how you say it. I am like a cop here and if I see you driving recklessly then I will pull you over and write you a ticket. Enough said. I am not a conversationist the way you like to be, though I will answer your questions and help you the best way I can.
 
After consulting with Administration about this thread. I am re-opening it in the name of freedom of speech.
 
youknowme123321;601373 said:
thanks for your response...i enjoyed that. it clearly explained the information that was missing in the first post which led me to my post. I only enjoyed it till the end though when you told me i shouldn't comment. and since no one has any validity behind 99% of the statements made here should no one post anything. even if i lied and said i was a doctor that still wouldn't come with any validity. so unless someone is a doctor are your saying they shouldn't post about the body? most everything here is based on subjective info/experience sharing. and Doctors don't do what i did ;) good luck finding a doctor who knows how to change a Stage 4 pressure ulcer dressing. they know how to say "excuse me nurse, i don't know how to do that procedure or document the findings/degree/severity of the skin breakdown present. will you please do it otherwise it will likely become infected" and the one who aren't polite like that got a talking to.

in my first post, if you go back to it, at the end you will see i say a foam pad is unlikely to cause any skin damage b/c it isn't used for a long enough period of time and the massage isn't deep either. i put it below just in case you didnt want to go back looking for it. Again...thank you for that detailed response until the last sentence. i enjoyed learning more about your positive experience
Ya, the foam cushion I only use for less than 5 minutes so I don't think it will hurt me to much. Thanks for your comments and concern ykm123321.:)
 
ADF;601392 said:
This statement/comment in itself is argumentative in it's nature since you already got the info from me that you desired. The proof is in the pudding, and you are an argumentative person by nature and I personally don't get along with your type of personality.

if you continue to be argumentative with others on this forum then you will eventually get an infraction, if not from me then from another mod. At least I bark a little and give you a warning, but Admin and the other mods don't work that way. They will just give you enough rope to hang yourself and the next thing you know you got banned. So I am being very patient with you in this regard. The list (seen only by admin and mods) of those who have been banned with little or no warning is a mile long so please for your sake stop trying to argue with me and others. or maybe it's just me who you like to argue with, but that's worse for you in the long end since I now have my finger on your ban button.

I don't know what else to tell you save for this is Not a day care center and I am not going to watch you like a hawk since I am always busy and don't have the time to walk behind you and make sure you are acting right. So please grow up and get more mature about how you post and what you say and how you say it. I am like a cop here and if I see you driving recklessly then I will pull you over and write you a ticket. Enough said. I am not a conversationist the way you like to be, though I will answer your questions and help you the best way I can.

i find you to be the argumentative one. funny how that works. 2 people think the same thing of the other person.

ADF;601345 said:
Unless your a real Doctor, there's no need to do a soliloquy about the harmful effects of using a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] foam cushion as a massaging tool since you have no validity behind your statements. I do though know where your coming from as a former nurse.

that was your argumentative statement that i replied to saying i didn't like it. then i explained...just as we both have been doing.

so i hope we can both agree to move past this since we both agree the other person is argumentative. again as i said in my first response to your first response to me...my apologies for upsetting you. it was not the intention of my first post. my first post was simply to add information to this forum. i do it with many threads here and enjoy when others do the same. lastly, thank you again for post #11...it explained things much more clearly for your technique
 
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kyomoto;668459 said:
Why are these videos not working?

They are working now on most threads. I updated the top video so you can view now. Youknowme really screwed us on this and we had to go into deep backups to find these videos. They are all resurrected but we are still editing and adding as they are finished.
 
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