Overtraining on purpose for maximum gains?

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That`s a great life you`re living, a blessed life. Something I`m striving for aswell, I`m only 24 and am striving to build a life I want to live too.

I started the brotherhood at around 28 until I am 50 to. I’ve learned so much being in this brotherhood far beyond the size of my penis. I’ve always felt like the brotherhood is give me an opportunity to help my brothers with what they want as far as growth goes but I also like to plan a Jesus seed in their minds that hopefully will grow.

I remember hearing this in my mind one day I’m not sure if it was a dream or it was the spirit speaking to me but I heard, as funny as this may sound, pull them in by the dick and whisper Jesus in their ear.

 

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I started the brotherhood at around 28 until I am 50 to. I’ve learned so much being in this brotherhood far beyond the size of my penis. I’ve always felt like the brotherhood is give me an opportunity to help my brothers with what they want as far as growth goes but I also like to plan a Jesus seed in their minds that hopefully will grow.

I remember hearing this in my mind one day I’m not sure if it was a dream or it was the spirit speaking to me but I heard, as funny as this may sound, pull them in by the dick and whisper Jesus in their ear.

That`s a loong time DLD! Haha that`s hilarious! Doesn`t matter if it was a dream or spirit that told you, it`s your passion I`m not religious but I respect those who are.

I already have a way above average penis, but when pump and have a great session, almost as pumped to my goal size, my confidence and mood is skyrocketed, I feel so deeply satisfied and worthy. I love it.

 

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I started the brotherhood at around 28 until I am 50 to. I’ve learned so much being in this brotherhood far beyond the size of my penis. I’ve always felt like the brotherhood is give me an opportunity to help my brothers with what they want as far as growth goes but I also like to plan a Jesus seed in their minds that hopefully will grow.

I remember hearing this in my mind one day I’m not sure if it was a dream or it was the spirit speaking to me but I heard, as funny as this may sound, pull them in by the dick and whisper Jesus in their ear.

I ordered the x11 a few days ago, I cant wait!!!

 

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I ordered the x11 a few days ago, I cant wait!!!

in the text I posted above is in error I am not 50 I am 52. I would’ve been 53 but I was sick for a year ?

 

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in the text I posted above is in error I am not 50 I am 52. I would’ve been 53 but I was sick for a year ?

No worries Hope you`re all well now!

 

[DLD]

No worries Hope you`re all well now!

Thanks for asking my brother I am doing much better.

 

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Thanks for asking my brother I am doing much better.

You're welcome! I saw your kegel newbie routine but want to do more than that. Since you said it was one of the biggest secrets to fast growth.

Do you think doing the beginner routine during my session, and doing 2-3 times a day of 5 or 10 min, doing quick and long kegels will be too much start with? I really want to start growing

 

[DLD]

You're welcome! I saw your kegel newbie routine but want to do more than that. Since you said it was one of the biggest secrets to fast growth.

Do you think doing the beginner routine during my session, and doing 2-3 times a day of 5 or 10 min, doing quick and long kegels will be too much start with? I really want to start growing

I see no problem with that as a matter of fact it’s a very good thing the more you train your pelvic floor muscles the better your EQ is. The exercise that you’ll find in the newbie routine is a pretty solid workout. But also remember you can do Kegels all day long every day if you choose this will only go to more strength and more endurance.

 

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I see no problem with that as a matter of fact it’s a very good thing the more you train your pelvic floor muscles the better your EQ is. The exercise that you’ll find in the newbie routine is a pretty solid workout. But also remember you can do Kegels all day long every day if you choose this will only go to more strength and more endurance.

Thank you for clarifying, then I'll do them all day. It was eye opening to hear that kegels are key to growing, like you said, a bigger penis has to be able to hold more blood because it's bigger. So simple but now I totally understand and will do them like crazy, I want fast growth!

 

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Thank you for clarifying, then I'll do them all day. It was eye opening to hear that kegels are key to growing, like you said, a bigger penis has to be able to hold more blood because it's bigger. So simple but now I totally understand and will do them like crazy, I want fast growth!

Kegels are responsible for delivering more blood to your penis and the ability to hold that blood in your penis (EQ) As you grow larger you want your pelvic floor muscles to grow stronger so you can support all of the new weight that the blood brings.

 

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Kegels are responsible for delivering more blood to your penis and the ability to hold that blood in your penis (EQ) As you grow larger you want your pelvic floor muscles to grow stronger so you can support all of the new weight that the blood brings.

Great to know! I'll keep this In mind and monitor from now on to see the effects of doing lots of kegels every day.

 

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Kegels are responsible for delivering more blood to your penis and the ability to hold that blood in your penis (EQ) As you grow larger you want your pelvic floor muscles to grow stronger so you can support all of the new weight that the blood brings.

I just measured my girth and how much space i need to grow to 7.5 inch girth, damn, that gave me some real perspective on this. 2 inches girth is alot of meat to grow!

 

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I just measured my girth and how much space i need to grow to 7.5 inch girth, damn, that gave me some real perspective on this. 2 inches girth is alot of meat to grow!

Take it day by day and eventually you’ll get there. Don’t look at how hard it’s going to be, look at how good your going to feel getting there!

 

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Take it day by day and eventually you’ll get there. Don’t look at how hard it’s going to be, look at how good your going to feel getting there!

Thank you for the advice!

One thing I haven't tried yet actually is low pressure pumping, I've always done medium to high and very high pressures because it causes insane expansion. Which I assume low pressure won't, but maybe it's something I should try out one day for a week.

 

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Thank you for the advice!

One thing I haven't tried yet actually is low pressure pumping, I've always done medium to high and very high pressures because it causes insane expansion. Which I assume low pressure won't, but maybe it's something I should try out one day for a week.

Nothing wrong with trying something new out you might find a wonderful response.

 

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Nothing wrong with trying something new out you might find a wonderful response.

Yeah, maybe its something that would bring growth for a change. I've read on a thread somewhere that penis enlargement is not about huge expansion every time, maybe the user was right, maybe not. I at least should give lower pressure pumping a shot for a week.

 

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Nothing wrong with trying something new out you might find a wonderful response.

Btw, you haven't heard anything about Creatine being helpful for penis growth? In my mind based on what I does I think it will help a lot with growth.

 

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Btw, you haven't heard anything about Creatine being helpful for penis growth? In my mind based on what I does I think it will help a lot with growth.

I don’t know much about chemical PE but lightning does so hopefully he can help out here.

 

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I don’t know much about chemical PE but lightning does so hopefully he can help out here.

Cool, can you tag him here so he sees this? I don't know how.

 

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@Lightning

 

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Nothing wrong with trying something new out you might find a wonderful response.

I just read somewhere that during pumping, one shouldn`t let too much skin get sucked in, is this true? I use oil and moisturizer so alot of skin glides in naturally for me. Do you know anything about this? Should I only oil up my penis? instead of balls and around the suction area? If so I will get much less expansion and edema ofc.

 

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I just read somewhere that during pumping, one shouldn`t let too much skin get sucked in, is this true? I use oil and moisturizer so alot of skin glides in naturally for me. Do you know anything about this? Should I only oil up my penis? instead of balls and around the suction area? If so I will get much less expansion and edema ofc.

if you’re cut I wouldn’t worry about how much skin goes in but if you are uncut you may want to limit that so you don’t end up with excessive skin stretch. Many men will pre-lube themselves before pumping and that is a good thing. But you need to be careful with keeping the valve of your pump clean and without dirt which oils will pick up. If your valve becomes clogged your vacuum is reduced.

 

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if you’re cut I wouldn’t worry about how much skin goes in but if you are uncut you may want to limit that so you don’t end up with excessive skin stretch. Many men will pre-lube themselves before pumping and that is a good thing. But you need to be careful with keeping the valve of your pump clean and without dirt which oils will pick up. If your valve becomes clogged your vacuum is reduced.

I'm uncut, good thing you warned me about the valve in case I run into that issue!

Btw, I pumped yesterday and I pumped out some water and I realised that I'm not actually filling the tube, the water gives an optical illusion so that It looks bigger than what it really is inside...

 

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I'm uncut, good thing you warned me about the valve in case I run into that issue!

Btw, I pumped yesterday and I pumped out some water and I realised that I'm not actually filling the tube, the water gives an optical illusion so that It looks bigger than what it really is inside...

Water can magnify the size of anything. I’m glad that you’re taking notice of the foreskin issue

 

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Water can magnify the size of anything. I’m glad that you’re taking notice of the foreskin issue

Yeah it was disappointing to realise but it makes sense because exiting the pump I'm never as big as from the enhanced water illusion.

Yeah, I'll have to try one day with not letting all the skin into the bathmate and see how it goes.

 

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Water can magnify the size of anything. I’m glad that you’re taking notice of the foreskin issue

I recently found a webiste, The Visualiser - The Cock Comparison site where I could actually put in my measurements and compare it to the average, and customize to show my natural size compared to my goal size. This was so awesome, it was such a fun and inspiring thing to see visually how much I need to grow and what it will look like.

 

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I recently found a webiste, The Visualiser - The Cock Comparison site where I could actually put in my measurements and compare it to the average, and customize to show my natural size compared to my goal size. This was so awesome, it was such a fun and inspiring thing to see visually how much I need to grow and what it will look like.

Yes we have use that site for many years and it’s very sobering when you really get a look at what you want and what you have. I’ve always wanted to create one of these programs for the brotherhood but it always gets put back on the back burner.

 

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Yes we have use that site for many years and it’s very sobering when you really get a look at what you want and what you have. I’ve always wanted to create one of these programs for the brotherhood but it always gets put back on the back burner.

Yes absolutely, it gives a new clear perspective on it. Would be cool, but as long as that site exists then i guess that's plenty.

I'm considering buying the mityvac one day, i want to try it, even though I can't stand the idea of a hose and hand pump with gauge, bathmate is so much simpler. I want to see if the mityvac will bring different expansion and growth, so one day I'll buy it!

 

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Yes absolutely, it gives a new clear perspective on it. Would be cool, but as long as that site exists then i guess that's plenty.

I'm considering buying the mityvac one day, i want to try it, even though I can't stand the idea of a hose and hand pump with gauge, bathmate is so much simpler. I want to see if the mityvac will bring different expansion and growth, so one day I'll buy it!

It is a mighty good pump!

 

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It is a mighty good pump!

I can't wait! I just found a post from another forum and he gained 1 inch length in 3-4 months by using the bathmate, he startet at 15 min per session but gradually increased to 50 min during these months.

I want to try the same, it was a great idea to increase the time in the pump over time, I haven't thought of this! So simple and so obvious really, I'm looking forward to what this method will will bring. I will ofc start clamping again after using the bathmate.

I can update you on this if you want to DLD as time goes by.

 

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It is a mighty good pump!

Also, what do you know of supplementing with Collagen for penis growth? Do you know if it helps`?

 

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Also, what do you know of supplementing with Collagen for penis growth? Do you know if it helps`?

I've been thinking the same thing lately. I figure it can't hurt but I don't know if there will be any real benefits.

 

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I've been thinking the same thing lately. I figure it can't hurt but I don't know if there will be any real benefits.

I can't find anything hardly on collagen and the penis online.. I'll read some more and order some powder and give it a try if it can help growth.

 

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I’m not sure because I have never used it, I would search the forms for men who have used it

 

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I’m not sure because I have never used it, I would search the forms for men who have used it

Have done so and am still reading! Just finished a session with pumping and clamping, now my girth is 7.08!! Its amazing, I love this stuff!!!!

 

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I’m not sure because I have never used it, I would search the forms for men who have used it

Just got my hydromax extreme 11!! Will test it tomorrow! It was fucking huge! I will also try out wearing a cockring in side the 11 and x40 just to see what happens, maybe it gives better expansion, i dont know but will try!

 

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Just got my hydromax extreme 11!! Will test it tomorrow! It was fucking huge! I will also try out wearing a cockring in side the 11 and x40 just to see what happens, maybe it gives better expansion, i dont know but will try!

Can you take some pictures of it so we can see it in the group? I have not received one yet so I’m very curious.

 

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Can you take some pictures of it so we can see it in the group? I have not received one yet so I’m very curious.

X40 next to the x11 and another shot of it, it`s a big difference between them.

 

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X40 next to the x11 and another shot of it, it`s a big difference between them.

Wow, that’s awesome. I’m gonna ask lightning sent me one out right away hopefully at a discount LOL. I can’t wait to hear your reviews over the next few weeks.

 

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Wow, that’s awesome. I’m gonna ask lightning sent me one out right away hopefully at a discount LOL. I can’t wait to hear your reviews over the next few weeks.

Yeah, the opening is almost too big actually.. Cool that you`re getting a bathmate too! Yeah, I have only used it once this week, but will for sure get more used to it as time goes by, it`s extremely difficult to pump with my hands, its very hard and rigid, so using the hand pump was a must on the x11.

 

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Wow, that’s awesome. I’m gonna ask lightning sent me one out right away hopefully at a discount LOL. I can’t wait to hear your reviews over the next few weeks.

I'm planning on increasing my pumping time 15 or 20 min a week. Dld, do you think this is a good idea?

 

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I'm planning on increasing my pumping time 15 or 20 min a week. Dld, do you think this is a good idea?

That’s just fine but be sure to use the SSJ to remove any fluid retention that may happen over that time.

 

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That’s just fine but be sure to use the SSJ to remove any fluid retention that may happen over that time.

I`ve tried SSJ and with my ED, i cant get hard that many times or even keep it hard, so the SSJ is impossible for me as of now, maybe in the future. Getting hard once to enter the pump and the again when putting on the clamp is what I can achieve most of the time.

 

[V-TAX]

That’s just fine but be sure to use the SSJ to remove any fluid retention that may happen over that time.

How important do you think increasing time and intensity over time is for growth?

 

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I`ve tried SSJ and with my ED, i cant get hard that many times or even keep it hard, so the SSJ is impossible for me as of now, maybe in the future. Getting hard once to enter the pump and the again when putting on the clamp is what I can achieve most of the time.

Then simply go with the jelq or deep tissue massage to disperse the retention.

 

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How important do you think increasing time and intensity over time is for growth?

It’s very important but timing is also very important. You never want to stop doing something that’s working the only want to change when you reach a plateau. So if you’re making growth of what you’re doing now continue on and if you see that growth slow we can increase time, repetitions, tools, exercises or the whole entire routine.

 

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It’s very important but timing is also very important. You never want to stop doing something that’s working the only want to change when you reach a plateau. So if you’re making growth of what you’re doing now continue on and if you see that growth slow we can increase time, repetitions, tools, exercises or the whole entire routine.

Good to know, thank you for telling me. I`m increasing my pumping to 1 hour on monday. I`m exited to see how this will go, I always clamp after pumping too

 

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Good to know, thank you for telling me. I`m increasing my pumping to 1 hour on monday. I`m exited to see how this will go, I always clamp after pumping too

Be careful with clamping as you do not want to cause thrombosis or discolor your penis. Clamping is notorious for both of these things.

 

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Be careful with clamping as you do not want to cause thrombosis or discolor your penis. Clamping is notorious for both of these things.

Thank you for the heads up, though I`m experienced with clamping so I know what I`m doing

 

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Thank you for the heads up, though I`m experienced with clamping so I know what I`m doing

I have been against clamping since day one. There are many men who have gained doing this but in most cases they end up with extreme discoloration and thrombosis. There are exceptions to the rule of coarse but I’m going by all the cases I have heard over the years. Take a look at some of the people who have planned to make gains and check the pigment on their penis. At that point you can make your decision.