Overtraining on purpose for maximum gains?

Hey DLD, help me refreshen my memory, you've said that to measure if growth have happened, is to measure 48 hours after the last session right?

For an official measurement you need to take 24 hour break so temporary gains are not included. When measuring length, which is a bitch, measure flaccid, stretched, bone-pressed. This will help you avoid any EQ issues. And when you measure girth be sure to take three measurements, one of the base, one mid shaft, and one below the head. This will give you important information in the way you grow and how you exercise.
 
Great! Good to know! I do want my entire penis from head to base to be the same girth

That’s why I suggest you measure those three places to keep things consistent. But if you find that you’re uneven anywhere on your shaft you can simply use the SSJ to isolate that area for growth.
 
That’s why I suggest you measure those three places to keep things consistent. But if you find that you’re uneven anywhere on your shaft you can simply use the SSJ to isolate that area for growth.
I've never written downbmy Base girth or under the head, so I will do so. I didn't know the SSJ could help with that, good to know!
 
I've never written downbmy Base girth or under the head, so I will do so. I didn't know the SSJ could help with that, good to know!

It’s really the only exercise that can spot train along your shaft. Since you’re using two hands you can really isolate that area that you want to work on.
 
It’s really the only exercise that can spot train along your shaft. Since you’re using two hands you can really isolate that area that you want to work on.
I'm very happy that you told me this, so that I can use this once I've reached my girth goal, to work on even it out perfectly!
 
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It’s really the only exercise that can spot train along your shaft. Since you’re using two hands you can really isolate that area that you want to work on.
DLD! For the first time my penis has grown, 0.5 cm or 0.196 inches in girth mid shaft, but I really cant believe it.
 
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DLD! For the first time my penis has grown, 0.5 cm or 0.196 inches in girth mid shaft, but I really cant believe it.

praise the Lord! All good things come from God. I’m very proud of you and you sound super motivated so let’s move on to bigger and better things!
 
praise the Lord! All good things come from God. I’m very proud of you and you sound super motivated so let’s move on to bigger and better things!
Thank you DLD! Yes! I will never give up but never truly belived. Now I know I can do this with my routine now. Ive been thinking and I know how much it took to grow these 0.196 inches, almost 3 weeks. Becasue after my bruise healed I started again, but hard I was not any larger,, then I had to stop after 2 weeks becasue of complete fatigue and terrible low expansion and no erections, so now before I began again I measure 4 days when I was off and when I was hard I still was 0.196 inches thicker, so the growth is only in erect state.
 
Thank you DLD! Yes! I will never give up but never truly belived. Now I know I can do this with my routine now. Ive been thinking and I know how much it took to grow these 0.196 inches, almost 3 weeks. Becasue after my bruise healed I started again, but hard I was not any larger,, then I had to stop after 2 weeks becasue of complete fatigue and terrible low expansion and no erections, so now before I began again I measure 4 days when I was off and when I was hard I still was 0.196 inches thicker, so the growth is only in erect state.

It’s amazing all it takes to believe is making a small gain and then you’re off to the races! I was the same way, once I realize PE truly worked my whole life changed and I dedicated so much of my life to this brotherhood to help other men achieve what I achieved. ❤️
 
It’s amazing all it takes to believe is making a small gain and then you’re off to the races! I was the same way, once I realize PE truly worked my whole life changed and I dedicated so much of my life to this brotherhood to help other men achieve what I achieved. ❤
Yeah it usual takes evidence to believe alot of things! Yeah this is your biggest passion I have understood so i understand the importance PE is for you. Now that I`ve grown 0.197 inch girth, I`ve got 1.803 inches of girth left to grow to reach my goal!
 
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Yeah it usual takes evidence to believe alot of things! Yeah this is your biggest passion I have understood so i understand the importance PE is for you. Now that I`ve grown 0.197 inch girth, I`ve got 1.803 inches of girth left to grow to reach my goal!

Once you know it works it’s off to the races!
 
Once you know it works it’s off to the races!
Oh yes! Now all I need is patience! Once I've reached my dream I'm actually thicker than shane diesel, a half inch thicker than him.

No matter what, I'll never give up.
 
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Once you know it works it’s off to the races!
Do you think a vibrating penis ring would help with growing? I usually always wear a normal silicone one, but wonder what your thoughts and ideas on a vibrating one instead and if it could possibly help growth
 
Do you think a vibrating penis ring would help with growing? I usually always wear a normal silicone one, but wonder what your thoughts and ideas on a vibrating one instead and if it could possibly help growth


Wow what a blast from the past! I actually developed one with Penomet and it never took off because the vibration was not where it needs to be. Today we have a vibrating version through BathMateVibe that is very good. Here is the link:

 
Wow what a blast from the past! I actually developed one with Penomet and it never took off because the vibration was not where it needs to be. Today we have a vibrating version through BathMateVibe that is very good. Here is the link:

Great! Ill look it up! And btw I need to know, does ejaculating damage, hurt gains? Yes or no? Everyone has different opinions so i just want yours.
 
Great! Ill look it up! And btw I need to know, does ejaculating damage, hurt gains? Yes or no? Everyone has different opinions so i just want yours.

Not at all as a matter of fact after you have sex with your wife, the rectory period is the best time to stretch. The reason for this is your pelvic floor muscles are too tired to hold back on the stretch.
 
Not at all as a matter of fact after you have sex with your wife, the rectory period is the best time to stretch. The reason for this is your pelvic floor muscles are too tired to hold back on the stretch.
Alright, good to know! I`m currently soon 4 days in on my water fast, and wondered if you know or have heard from any that fasting for days or weeks has a negative effect on penis growth?
 
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Alright, good to know! I`m currently soon 4 days in on my water fast, and wondered if you know or have heard from any that fasting for days or weeks has a negative effect on penis growth?

I fasted for four months when I lost that 140 pounds. It did effect my size as I lost so much weight 2.5 inches of penis was revealed where the fat pad was. My fasting consisted of the very basic needs to get through a day in the most healthy way. I always my metabolism to be up so I had to consider that in the way I created the Fast.
 
I fasted for four months when I lost that 140 pounds. It did effect my size as I lost so much weight 2.5 inches of penis was revealed where the fat pad was. My fasting consisted of the very basic needs to get through a day in the most healthy way. I always my metabolism to be up so I had to consider that in the way I created the Fast.
Damn, that's very impressive! That's great to hear! I'm glad to know that it doesn't have a negative effect the penis. And 4 months is insanely long, respect DLD!
 
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I fasted for four months when I lost that 140 pounds. It did effect my size as I lost so much weight 2.5 inches of penis was revealed where the fat pad was. My fasting consisted of the very basic needs to get through a day in the most healthy way. I always my metabolism to be up so I had to consider that in the way I created the Fast.
DLD, I have to know, will jelqs help with my bathmate routine? Will it help me in gaining girth?

And only if it does, how many minutes of jelqing before using the bathmate?
 
Get your penis as hard as possible once is hard,grab your penis form its base and push upwards Whit the other hand grab behind the glans n push downwards as if youd want to get both hands together keep them that way for a minute
 
Get your penis as hard as possible once is hard,grab your penis form its base and push upwards Whit the other hand grab behind the glans n push downwards as if youd want to get both hands together keep them that way for a minute
I told you I can't, so that's exactly what it means. I'm not able to maintain an erection to get it up and down seveal times. So please don't tell me.
 
If you can’t do the SSJ then definitely use the jelq Or something similar. The idea here is to work out all the fluid retention and increase the tissue expansion. It does work best with the SSJ but you can pick another similar exercise and have the same affect.
 
If you can’t do the SSJ then definitely use the jelq Or something similar. The idea here is to work out all the fluid retention and increase the tissue expansion. It does work best with the SSJ but you can pick another similar exercise and have the same affect.
So doing jelqs before the bathmate will help in increasing growth?
 
DLD, I have to know, will jelqs help with my bathmate routine? Will it help me in gaining girth?

And only if it does, how many minutes of jelqing before using the bathmate?
can't hurt, and as you can't SSJ effectively it's the next best thing. I don't know how safe it is, as I've obly just started doing it, but you could try pumping with a ring (BM and 2x close 2 you rings - essentially cheap wide soft generic silicone rings, but they seem pretty robust). You get to max much quicker qnd you stay up out of the pump. Might help with SSJ, just keep kegeling whilst you do them.
 
So doing jelqs before the bathmate will help in increasing growth?

I would do them in the same setting as the 5×5×3 where you’ll find this exercise in the SRT routine. if you cannot use the SSJ you can go with the regular jelq But I highly recommend the SSJ.
 
I`ve already penetrated my date with a fully pumped dick, which is 7.28 in girth at max. Which went fine after a minute. The routine I do makes my penis expand from 5.5 to 7.28, at most. So when maxed out I am thicker than shane. So from my natural size 5.5 to 7.28 would be 1.78 inches in expansion in one intense session.

Yes, I did try the SRT 5x5x3 routine last week, I would have to do it with a clamp though, because I can hardly sustain an erection longer than a few seconds.

So I hear what you say that grow to inches more, it`ll be too much, but I dont think so. Time will show :)
Are you using a pump to go to 7.28 or just a clamp? If you’re using a pump which one??
 
Are you using a pump to go to 7.28 or just a clamp? If you’re using a pump which one??

I'm getting similar expansion as well as the person you quoted. To get that level of expansion I do the below routine:

8 mins pumping
5mins SSJ

8 mins pumping
5mins SSJ

8 mins pumping
5mins SSJ

But the pressure of the pump matters. You will have to pump at very high pressure especially during the last 8mins pumping set
 
I'm getting similar expansion as well as the person you quoted. To get that level of expansion I do the below routine:

8 mins pumping
5mins SSJ

8 mins pumping
5mins SSJ

8 mins pumping
5mins SSJ

But the pressure of the pump matters. You will have to pump at very high pressure especially during the last 8mins pumping set
Thanks. I see
I believe I can only go to 6.5 girth in the bm hydromax 7 . What pump are you using? And is there anyway I can get pst 6.5 without the pump?
I go from 5.25 to 6.3-6.4 in the pump
 
Thanks. I see
I believe I can only go to 6.5 girth in the bm hydromax 7 . What pump are you using? And is there anyway I can get pst 6.5 without the pump?
I go from 5.25 to 6.3-6.4 in the pump

I'm not pumping at this time but the routine above is what I normally do. Since the names of the pumps changed, I no longer remember the name of my pump but I think its the hydromax X9. The pump that takes you to 7 inches cemente
Thanks. I see
I believe I can only go to 6.5 girth in the bm hydromax 7 . What pump are you using? And is there anyway I can get pst 6.5 without the pump?
I go from 5.25 to 6.3-6.4 in the pump

I'm not pumping at this time but the routine above is what I normally do. Since the names of the pumps changed, I no longer remember the name of my pump but I think its the hydromax X9. The pump that takes you to 7 inches cemented girth.

There are other methods to train girth, but rhe penis pump will take you to your desired girth size.
 
Are you using a pump to go to 7.28 or just a clamp? If you’re using a pump which one??
Sometimes I use both and sometimes I use only pump, clamping alone gives hardly any expansion. I have the x9, the old name for it is the x40. But ofc, getting to that level of expansion there is aloott of water retention, edema aswell.
 
Sometimes I use both and sometimes I use only pump, clamping alone gives hardly any expansion. I have the x9, the old name for it is the x40. But ofc, getting to that level of expansion there is aloott of water retention, edema aswell.

I don't get water retention at all. You should do SSJ for 5 minutes before each pumping set. SSJ reduces the build up of fluid.
 
I don't get water retention at all. You should do SSJ for 5 minutes before each pumping set. SSJ reduces the build up of fluid.
Yes ive heard DLD talk about it alot, but I cannot do this, I suffer from ED and have been suffering from it since I was 15, and I`m 25 now. So one erection to go in hard in the bathmate is often a struggle for me. But thank you for the suggestion anyway :) :)
 
Yes ive heard DLD talk about it alot, but I cannot do this, I suffer from ED and have been suffering from it since I was 15, and I`m 25 now. So one erection to go in hard in the bathmate is often a struggle for me. But thank you for the suggestion anyway :) :)

Have you tried doing kegel
 
that would be pushing it and a waste of money as a switch would be necessary. Best to go with one size up so it last you your whole career
Agreed. Wish I would have went with the wide boy or mity vac from the start will probably move up to wide boy by the end of the year or next year. Wanting to gain my length then cement girth. I think 6.75 - 7 would be the max girth I would want. 6.5 minimum
 
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Agreed. Wish I would have went with the wide boy or mity vac from the start will probably move up to wide boy by the end of the year or next year. Wanting to gain my length then cement girth. I think 6.75 - 7 would be the max girth I would want. 6.5 minimum

agree!
 
I wonder how many people agree with this I think that length work would need some recovery but not a lot bc it's stretching. Girth work needs rest though.

I completely agree with this. There is no limit to how much length work you can do but if you become sore.
 
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