Overtraining on purpose for maximum gains?

i’m glad you saw this before you wasted your time jelqing! Let me know how you like the SSJ.
I read about and have tried it once, I have to try it again after my EQ and ED is gone, since I cant maintain one or get it up several times. So will try once that is fixed.
 
Wow! I’m so very happy for you! You must feel great it’s like a new lease at life! Even
gains you can look forward to because of this. The doctor let you know how often you need to check in? And did he give you a level that we can make sense of?
 
Wow! I’m so very happy for you! You must feel great it’s like a new lease at life! Even
gains you can look forward to because of this. The doctor let you know how often you need to check in? And did he give you a level that we can make sense of?
Thank you DLD! I`ve been waiting for this for so long, 8 year approx. I can`t tell If I feel any difference yet, it`s slow acting and takes some time to see any effects, 3-4 wks before I can notice any difference in sex drive and erections, but I hope this is wrong and it comes faster.

Yeah, I truly think the Test will make my penis grow alot, combined with my routines ofc, but I think my penis will grow even if I didnt PE, but wont ofc.

The dosage is 1.000 mg each, if that tells you anything good or bad. Every 10 or 12 weeks I need to take new shots.
 
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Thank you DLD! I`ve been waiting for this for so long, 8 year approx. I can`t tell If I feel any difference yet, it`s slow acting and takes some time to see any effects, 3-4 wks before I can notice any difference in sex drive and erections, but I hope this is wrong and it comes faster.

Yeah, I truly think the Test will make my penis grow alot, combined with my routines ofc, but I think my penis will grow even if I didnt PE, but wont ofc.

The dosage is 1.000 mg each, if that tells you anything good or bad. Every 10 or 12 weeks I need to take new shots.

This is so exciting and I’m so happy for you. Keep us up-to-date daily on how you’re doing and how things are changing. I pray you get so much out of this!
 
This is so exciting and I’m so happy for you. Keep us up-to-date daily on how you’re doing and how things are changing. I pray you get so much out of this!
Thank you, DLD, I hope so too! I`ll update when I notice growth and changes, I`m sure it will take some time to kick in and start working in my body, so right now I just have to be patient :)
 
This is so exciting and I’m so happy for you. Keep us up-to-date daily on how you’re doing and how things are changing. I pray you get so much out of this!
One thing I want to mention, is that I have tested and gained experience with sleeping with cockrings, I have tried this several times and can now confirm that it is COMPLETELY 100% SAFE. There is no danger what so ever, ever. The cockring have to be tight/loose enough so that you are able to pee, if it`s a little difficult to pee, that is ok too, as long as you can pee, this is the way to do it. So it is no harm in it AT ALL, nor will it ever be, it is perfectly SAFE!

Have read about it several places on sleeping with one, and have only found one guy to do it, a big girth gainer who gained 2 inches by only clamping and wearing cockrings 12 hours a day. Most others have warned against it but its all complete and utter BS. I am living proof it works and it`s harmless.
 
Thank you, DLD, I hope so too! I`ll update when I notice growth and changes, I`m sure it will take some time to kick in and start working in my body, so right now I just have to be patient :)

You should note effects on your sex drive at about the 3 week mark, though some have mentioned feeling effects as soon as 1 week after their first injection. If you're working out you should also notice better recovery, strength, and gains.
 
You should note effects on your sex drive at about the 3 week mark, though some have mentioned feeling effects as soon as 1 week after their first injection. If you're working out you should also notice better recovery, strength, and gains.
Let`s hope I get the effects as soon as possible! It`s day two now and I don`t feel any difference in anything yet.
 
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Thank you, DLD, I hope so too! I`ll update when I notice growth and changes, I`m sure it will take some time to kick in and start working in my body, so right now I just have to be patient :)

That is it my brother you got to be patient and you got to have trust and faith in what you’re doing.
 
That is it my brother you got to be patient and you got to have trust and faith in what you’re doing.
Patience is my biggest weakness so I have to work on it, thank you for reminding me about trust and faith!
 
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Very nice post, i like it.
I ve read all the dialoge aboves and now its my first responce for this topic. I am experiencing about the same thing with you since i focus mainly on Clamping - Binding techniques with some basic streches. I do very instence clamping and binding sesions (2-3 min each/ 2 min rest) with tremendous girth expansions for around 2-3 hours per day, every day with no day rest. My EQ is really not good, but if i just stay 1-2 days total off, it comes back.

So u said u have not seen gains. Well u have made gains, and very big gains on girth, but just your EQ is not good or not strong enoughto achieve a 100% erection naturally and thus u misunderstand the real gains. Girth gains are simiral to length gains, i mean if someone has BPFSL 8 and has 7.5 BPESL, then his real - potential length is the 8 (thats the reason some research penis measurements are performed based on BPFSL, because this is the real length, the BPESL is affected from a lot of factors, like stress, self confidence, etc and then misunderstand the measurements, whereas the BPFSL is more reliable). So if u achieve somehow from 5.5 to 7 girth size, then this is ur real-potential girth state size, but its just hard to make it with normal classic erection from sex and etc. However, if u need a cock ring or pumb or whatever technique to achieve ur actual girth size, this is not bannable :), u can do whatever u like to maintain and achieve this girth size. U just cannnot maintain it and reach this girth size with just your pelvic muscles naturally since a lot amount of blood pressure and strength is required to expand from ur old girth size to the new one. That doesnt mean that u penis has not got this girth size (ok maybe not 7 because ur pumbed inflatable skin will possible affect measurement). Just the penis need time to realize its actual new size. Imagine if u suddenly got the muscle mass of a strong bodybuilder. Ur heart and body will have really problem to get used to this and cannot attach it at all.
 
Patience is my biggest weakness so I have to work on it, thank you for reminding me about trust and faith!

“And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.”

If you love what you’re working towards your going to get it. Anything I loved enough I always acquired.
 
“And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.”

If you love what you’re working towards your going to get it. Anything I loved enough I always acquired.
Thank you for sharing that! It`s a great reminder, as I often feel PE as a chore, but should look at is as fun and something great, becasue it will take me toward my goal.
 
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Thank you for sharing that! It`s a great reminder, as I often feel PE as a chore, but should look at is as fun and something great, becasue it will take me toward my goal.

if you see everything as a blessing everything will be blessed. ❤️
 
Update, I`ve got nothing to update from 2 december to today, I`ve still not had any effects from the testosterone.

Are you in therapy and if so how often are you seeing the doctor?
 
Had my first injection 2nd Dec, and am getting another one and seeing the doc in 10 weeks, so 10 to 12 weeks is how often I will get treatment

Good. You will not notice things probably until the second injection. It’s a slow process and this is why the space out injections the way they do. You will get better my friend, have no fear. And I’m praying for you right now that this comes with Godspeed.
 
Good. You will not notice things probably until the second injection. It’s a slow process and this is why the space out injections the way they do. You will get better my friend, have no fear. And I’m praying for you right now that this comes with Godspeed.
I haven`t thought about that the effects will come after the second one, thank you for telling me! Thank you for praying for me!

Regarding pumps, I have a big one x40 bathmate, the second largest one. And it`s obviously very big for me, but will an ever bigger pump be better and give me better results, or will it just be too large to give me results? I don`t know if you know anything about this but have to ask.
 
I haven`t thought about that the effects will come after the second one, thank you for telling me! Thank you for praying for me!

Regarding pumps, I have a big one x40 bathmate, the second largest one. And it`s obviously very big for me, but will an ever bigger pump be better and give me better results, or will it just be too large to give me results? I don`t know if you know anything about this but have to ask.

What’s wrong with your X 40?
 
Nothing, just wonder if a bigger pump is better or worse for results

Do you want to go with the pump that is close to your goal size without too much negative space. If you fit just fine in the pump you have there’s no reason to go to a bigger pump. The reason to change to a new pump is when your girth expands too much for the tube or your length exceeds the measurement of the tube.
 
Do you want to go with the pump that is close to your goal size without too much negative space. If you fit just fine in the pump you have there’s no reason to go to a bigger pump. The reason to change to a new pump is when your girth expands too much for the tube or your length exceeds the measurement of the tube.
Alright, good to know, then the x40 is all I need for now!
 
Alright, good to know, then the x40 is all I need for now!

That’s all you need my brother and a decent cock ring. Check out the ones we have in the store they’re very inexpensive and will do the trick as far as healing goes.
 
That’s all you need my brother and a decent cock ring. Check out the ones we have in the store they’re very inexpensive and will do the trick as far as healing goes.
Sure will do! I just noticed now in my last 3 sessions, that my dick is completely filling out the girth of the x40, its all edema. Is this a bad thing? I`ve never had this happened before, edema filling the x40 girth isnt a reason to go to the bigger one is it`? I cant use any less pressure than what i use becasue otherwise I wont feel or expand at all.
 
Sure will do! I just noticed now in my last 3 sessions, that my dick is completely filling out the girth of the x40, its all edema. Is this a bad thing? I`ve never had this happened before, edema filling the x40 girth isnt a reason to go to the bigger one is it`? I cant use any less pressure than what i use becasue otherwise I wont feel or expand at all.

if you’re using the 5×5×3 you’ll have very little water retention.
 
if you’re using the 5×5×3 you’ll have very little water retention.
Good to know! I cant find the post again, but I think I`ve read somewhere that WHEN one reaches ones goal size, that one have to gain 0.5 inches permanently over your goal, because the new grown permanent size will shrink when you slow down PE training, is this true?
 
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Good to know! I cant find the post again, but I think I`ve read somewhere that WHEN one reaches ones goal size, that one have to gain 0.5 inches permanently over your goal, because the new grown permanent size will shrink when you slow down PE training, is this true?

Yes that is a loose rule for the most part. The most someone would lose after putting in a lot of work would be a quarter inch to a half of an inch so I always say go for an extra half inch so you settle down into the size you desire.

I find it far better just to commit myself for life keeping my penis in good shape. I’ve obviously made all the gains I desire so today I just maintain but always keep my head in the game.

The camaraderie of the brotherhood is also a very good reason to stick around for support on anything you may be going through.
 
Yes that is a loose rule for the most part. The most someone would lose after putting in a lot of work would be a quarter inch to a half of an inch so I always say go for an extra half inch so you settle down into the size you desire.

I find it far better just to commit myself for life keeping my penis in good shape. I’ve obviously made all the gains I desire so today I just maintain but always keep my head in the game.

The camaraderie of the brotherhood is also a very good reason to stick around for support on anything you may be going through.
Alright that`s great to know, then I will have to aim for 8 inches in girth, since my goal is 7.5. But even though when I reach my goal, I would still do my routines as normal, every other day or a little shorter. It feels great.

Yeah I can imagine you are very happy with yourself, having achieved and living with your dream size, it must be a wonderful and powerful feeling.
 
Alright that`s great to know, then I will have to aim for 8 inches in girth, since my goal is 7.5. But even though when I reach my goal, I would still do my routines as normal, every other day or a little shorter. It feels great.

Yeah I can imagine you are very happy with yourself, having achieved and living with your dream size, it must be a wonderful and powerful feeling.

When anybody ever reaches eight they always decide to go for nine, just saying LOL
 
When anybody ever reaches eight they always decide to go for nine, just saying LOL
I meant that since I`ve heard that one should go 0.5 over my goal, then I would be 8 inches to keep the gains. But yeah I see your point of wanting more haha!

Btw, I`m doing my sessions every other day, do you think doing two sessions a day will be better? With my first one being pump and clamp, but my second one be just pumping. What`s your take on this for best growth?
 
I meant that since I`ve heard that one should go 0.5 over my goal, then I would be 8 inches to keep the gains. But yeah I see your point of wanting more haha!

Btw, I`m doing my sessions every other day, do you think doing two sessions a day will be better? With my first one being pump and clamp, but my second one be just pumping. What`s your take on this for best growth?

i’ve always train seven days a week and that was always the best way for me so it keeps my mind in the game every day. If I took days off they would probably turn into vacations. So I’ve always tried to go seven days on no days off. But if this is too much for you you can always go five days on take the weekend off or go every other day or some other construction of time. Some people gain faster when they do less work work. This is the exception to the rule but it does happen. So I will try seven days on and see if you can handle it it seems like it’s too much of a burden and break it up.
 
i’ve always train seven days a week and that was always the best way for me so it keeps my mind in the game every day. If I took days off they would probably turn into vacations. So I’ve always tried to go seven days on no days off. But if this is too much for you you can always go five days on take the weekend off or go every other day or some other construction of time. Some people gain faster when they do less work work. This is the exception to the rule but it does happen. So I will try seven days on and see if you can handle it it seems like it’s too much of a burden and break it up.
Yeah I remember you doing all on and no off, youre lucky to have that ability. I will have to try it out and see how my member reacts. Have tried every day before and it doesnt work for me, so I will try twice a day, every other day, and see how it goes.

Experimenting is key..
 
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i’ve always train seven days a week and that was always the best way for me so it keeps my mind in the game every day. If I took days off they would probably turn into vacations. So I’ve always tried to go seven days on no days off. But if this is too much for you you can always go five days on take the weekend off or go every other day or some other construction of time. Some people gain faster when they do less work work. This is the exception to the rule but it does happen. So I will try seven days on and see if you can handle it it seems like it’s too much of a burden and break it up.
I just found out however that using coconut oil in my bathmate is MUCH better than moisturizer.. Im glad I discovered this!
 
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i’ve always train seven days a week and that was always the best way for me so it keeps my mind in the game every day. If I took days off they would probably turn into vacations. So I’ve always tried to go seven days on no days off. But if this is too much for you you can always go five days on take the weekend off or go every other day or some other construction of time. Some people gain faster when they do less work work. This is the exception to the rule but it does happen. So I will try seven days on and see if you can handle it it seems like it’s too much of a burden and break it up.
Do you think the x50 is worth the upgrade from x40, when the diameter of the tube is only 0.25 inches bigger? I mean I eventually have to, or soon, my girth packs the diameter of the x40 now..
 
Do you think the x50 is worth the upgrade from x40, when the diameter of the tube is only 0.25 inches bigger? I mean I eventually have to, or soon, my girth packs the diameter of the x40 now..

And it’s a purchase you should be proud to make! It’s investing in yourself and looking towards the future and the growth that you make. Go for it my brother!
 
And it’s a purchase you should be proud to make! It’s investing in yourself and looking towards the future and the growth that you make. Go for it my brother!
Thank you for the encouragement! The x40 I have I already have alot of negative space to grow for length and reach my lenght goal, 8 or 8.5 inches, but the negative space will be excessive in terms of length in the x50, So I hope the excessive oversized amount of length won`t negativley affect my progress and growth, do you think it will? Due to it being too much negative space in terms of lenght?. And I would by the x50 ONLY for more space for girth expansion, even though its only 0.25 inches more..
 
Have you checked out the WideBoy? This may be the best solution. Unless I’m understanding you incorrectly. If so please correct me.

I have the x40 , but its new name is x9, and the x7 wide boy has the same diameter as the x9, and the x7 is too short for me, no room, too little to grow in length .

I just wondered if the excessive amount of negative space for length in the x50 (x11) Would negativley affect my progress, growth. Do you have any knowledge on this?
 
I have the x40 , but its new name is x9, and the x7 wide boy has the same diameter as the x9, and the x7 is too short for me, no room, too little to grow in length .

I just wondered if the excessive amount of negative space for length in the x50 (x11) Would negativley affect my progress, growth. Do you have any knowledge on this?

No this will have no effect on your progress as long as you’re getting good vacuum. So be sure to go with the handball or with the wine vacuum modification. Negative space is always countered by strong vacuum.
 
No this will have no effect on your progress as long as you’re getting good vacuum. So be sure to go with the handball or with the wine vacuum modification. Negative space is always countered by strong vacuum.
Thats good to know, I always get excellent vacuum! Then I will buy the x50 after all !
 
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When you reached your goal size, did you work even longer to gain 0.5 inches more in length and girth to make sure you maintained your size?

No I just never stopped LOL I still train today to invent exercise and tools. PE is a lifetime commitment for me
 
No I just never stopped LOL I still train today to invent exercise and tools. PE is a lifetime commitment for me
Oh ok, you never stopped, thats cool! Yeah I have gotten that impression about you, it seems like PE is your life passion, its great that you have something you truly love! I will still do sessions in the future when I have reached my goals, just not as often ofc, or as long.
 
Oh ok, you never stopped, thats cool! Yeah I have gotten that impression about you, it seems like PE is your life passion, its great that you have something you truly love! I will still do sessions in the future when I have reached my goals, just not as often ofc, or as long.

I love my work here in the brotherhood and I also love my work in my ministries. I love teaching my brothers how to improve them selves and I also love teaching people about Jesus. I love what I do for a living.
 
I love my work here in the brotherhood and I also love my work in my ministries. I love teaching my brothers how to improve them selves and I also love teaching people about Jesus. I love what I do for a living.
That`s a great life you`re living, a blessed life. Something I`m striving for aswell, I`m only 24 and am striving to build a life I want to live too.
 
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