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Stretching the inner penis out seems to be a lot more effective than mid shaft stretching because really pulls the inner penis out,but i have this idea that takes a lot more to get lenght gains whit this exercise...Im not really sure how it works,i believe the base of the penis gets girthier,n once the base is filled whit the inner penis the lenght grow continues to the middle and the "upper"part of the penis....?:(

any comments ideas etc THANKS
 
shortdick;658800 said:
Stretching the inner penis out seems to be a lot more effective than mid shaft stretching because really pulls the inner penis out,but i have this idea that takes a lot more to get lenght gains whit this exercise...Im not really sure how it works,i believe the base of the penis gets girthier,n once the base is filled whit the inner penis the lenght grow continues to the middle and the "upper"part of the penis....?:(

any comments ideas etc THANKS

All stretching sections should be included in a routine:

Shaft Stretching
Tunica Stretching
Ligament Stretching
Expressive Stretching
Erect Stretching
Multi Angular Stretching

Each bring their own particular gains. Hopefully I will have my study done soon so it can really get into explaining this.
 
Well i think im going to check the results by performing the exercises...measurement day is getting fucking closer!!!
 
shortdick;658818 said:
Well i think im going to check the results by performing the exercises...measurement day is getting fucking closer!!!

Get it all in, go manic, make those gains!
 
^I give my cock the death-stare, and see if that doesn't encourage him to gain.
 
doublelongdaddy;659143 said:
Get it all in, go manic, make those gains!

Yep its been two months of PE almost non stop,n i still have a few days left before my measurement,besides i have been busy n i havent been able to focus the way i want to, would like to get to 7NBPEL:P N start whit some maintenance in order to keep the gains..cause having spare time is lately a privilege for me....<:(
 
doublelongdaddy;658807 said:
All stretching sections should be included in a routine:

Shaft Stretching
Tunica Stretching
Ligament Stretching
Expressive Stretching
Erect Stretching
Multi Angular Stretching

Each bring their own particular gains. Hopefully I will have my study done soon so it can really get into explaining this.

Its funny you say this because I was thinking maybe creating a specific order with the stretching can possibly produce better results? I don't know of a good example but hopefully I can figure something out.
 
kyomoto;659226 said:
Its funny you say this because I was thinking maybe creating a specific order with the stretching can possibly produce better results? I don't know of a good example but hopefully I can figure something out.

Order will play a big part in much of this. For instance, training bundle stretches before training girth or length will allow for more expansion, due to pre-stretching the Tunica. Multip-angular stretching will address all angles of possible gains and should be done in between [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] sets. There are many reasons order will be important, I just need to finish the study. I was taken off track due to serious family problems.
 
Hi DLD and others,

I wrote a long post a few weeks ago that was dealing with internal stretch, but it was lost as my forum session had expired. It was too much work to post it again.

I'll sum it up here.

I think a whole revolution in PE may happen with a new generation of expressive / internal stretches.

You opened a tremendous way with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words], combination of relevant tools/strategies with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words], [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words].

When you speak about internal penis, when you explain that half of the penis is hidden, you tell us exactly what th focus on.

But it's like if the grips from your private section or your posts were all from above the tunica and the balls. What do you propose for manual grips below the balls?

For this part, there are still things to be discovered, explained and analyzed I think. I did not see all your videos in the member session but I found (50% by chance, 50% by work) some technics and grips you don't seem to talk about.

I spent hours trying to grip the internal penis from as deep as possible, in order to express it as much as I could and to stretch it in any direction.
I was able to create my own powerful grips, with one or two hands, with two fingers or all of them.
Now I almost can hold the internal penis like if there were no balls, in order to pull it and even do some jelqs. I can surround my internal penis with one hand and pull it.
Does anyone do that? Do you have videos or exercices for internal grips combined with expressive stretches ?

@DLD or others : Does anyone use some kind of "below-the-balls" grip ? It would deserve a video to show you my way of doing that, but I'm camera shy lol.

I'm even thinking of buidling a passive stretching tool for the area below the testicles.
I mean it would be put below the balls, unlike all PE tools available now, as they grip the shaft (SG) or pull the glans (Phalossan, [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words]) AFTER the balls/tunica tissues.

I included in my routine some manual internal stretches and even jelqs from the lower part behind the testicles.
Crazy and very effective I find:
- girth at base shaft becomes bigger
- it gives rock hard erections
- it helps jelqing for the upper part (penis if more fulled with blood). Sometimes I manually clamp below the balls, and jelq the upper penis with the other hand. Blood pressure gets awesome.

Even if logically we would think the tunica would prevent those inner gains to be visible, I found flaccid length increased much.

I had some growth at erect for last ten days but the result is just amazing for flaccid length.
Also, an internal grip gives a good quick ego boost : after a dozen "internal stretches", the penis hangs lower, up to 1 inch gained in 20 secondes, because the shaft gets more blood without entering in erection.
I had never experienced that kind of full & heavy flaccid status, even after sex. Of course this boost is temporary, but it's amazing to see that immediate gain, for motivation for example.
The penis gains 1 inch in a few seconds, is fully flaccid, without even the start of an erection.... perfect for showers and guys who are penis-shy in public bathrooms.

I'm convinced these internal stretches help erect gains.

For about 10 days, I've been using for about 3 to 5 hours a day a almost-hardcore routine : mix of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words], [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] and manual stretches at high level of erection, with air pumping for 5 minutes at high pressure (-10 Hg).
I can see news cells grow under the glans, chiefly while/after each hardcore sessions. I'd say I would gain a fifth of a millimiter for each hardcore session.
I mean I see the penis shaft grow below the glans at eye-visible level (amazing!), and that is because I use 110% erections by pushing blood from the inner penis up to half an inch below the glans.
So the penis is fully engorged, I use internal grip or push blood from the deepest part of the penis, I jelq and as the blood need more room, the flesh expanses.

Also, I saw a big difference with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] I bought recently.
This tool is a must-have (but the parts are too expensive ! My protector cap is almost torn and good for trash for after 10 days of use...very disappointing, and talc powder did not change anything. I'll write a post about that)

Anyway, I'll read this thread about 'internal penis stretching' very carefully.

'll manage to take some photos in the future. Internal grips are something to explore and improve.
 
^These amazing internal grips are behind the balls? I know that low grip stretching has benefit me, but I wouldn't risk pulling-off a nut. I also don't think I'd try btb clamps.
 
doublelongdaddy;659240 said:
Order will play a big part in much of this. For instance, training bundle stretches before training girth or length will allow for more expansion, due to pre-stretching the Tunica. Multip-angular stretching will address all angles of possible gains and should be done in between [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] sets. There are many reasons order will be important, I just need to finish the study. I was taken off track due to serious family problems.

Awesome possum. Can't wait to hear what you have to say. Same goes to everyone. Contribution on here is the real deal.
 
templnite;659341 said:
^These amazing internal grips are behind the balls? I know that low grip stretching has benefit me, but I wouldn't risk pulling-off a nut. I also don't think I'd try btb clamps.

Behind the Balls grip was proposed by RedZulu but I think it was causing pain for some users. I personally do not feel any pain. I do not think it would make a huge difference in gripping BTB or just gripping at extreme base but I will try it this evening and let you know what I think. I really like the article and it does touch on very important issues. I really wish I had my study done to throw my hat into this but still dealing with family issues. Thank you so much Doundar for your contribution. Extremely impressive as your 17th post.
 
Yeah mike but you do testicle exercise so yours must not get in the way enough to cause pain since they hang low.
 
templnite;659422 said:
Yeah mike but you do testicle exercise so yours must not get in the way enough to cause pain since they hang low.

Yeah, that is an issue with my sack, all that Testicle Health Massage and Stretches really enlarged my sack. I still think I can try it though, we'll see. I will report back with news on the sack:)
 
Hi guys,

> "These amazing internal grips are behind the balls? I know that low grip stretching has benefit me, but I wouldn't risk pulling-off a nut. I also don't think I'd try btb clamps."

Yes, these are "behind the balls" grips ("BTB grips").

They are probably the most spectacular. Not for kids lol. But indeed, anyone can do that.

How to let "Behind the balls" grips become part of your reality

Think about your first impression with PE. When you no nothing about stretching, discovering PE is almost shocking. Viewing a video of someone pulling the dick... well, that's frightening.
Anyone outside of PE community would fear pain for the guy showing the exercise on video, because that's too unconventional, that's not part of your reality.
Now talk about a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] veteran who gained 1, 2 inches and slowely accustomised his body and his hands for the exercises... odd things become natural. But at first, any new visitor here is like Neo who first hears about the matrix.

So don't let emotions nor fear prevent you from trying BTB grips.
Because for me, BTB stretchs go one step beyond about what seems possible to us.

At least, they allow powerful midshaft jelqs.
If other guys can track some progress like I did, they may be a good way to expand hidden penis.

I'll do a video. If I showed you now what I do without some explanations, you would say 'hey that's crazy', "that must hurt", "my body can not manage that", etc.
I felt exactly that when I first saw videos of A-stretch or a video when DLD compressed the shaft on a kind of cylinder or stick.
But once you'll try, as you will find gentle ways and always listen to your body, then you will consider it is just a new gesture to be included into your physiological vocabulary.

Now before I send photos or some visual hints about the grips, I have to explain how I found this and why I spent time on this subject. Because I would not have found these grips without a previous step that interest much people here.

How wanting lower balls led me to BTB grips

At first, maybe 12 months ago, I wanted lower hanging balls.

So I searched for exercises, and created/named my own like "spider skin stretch", "OK balls grip", "360 multiangle stretch", "bidrectional stretch". I manually pulled or stretched, with several daily 5 minutes "balls-only sessions".
I experimented rings, manual stretches, silicone ball rings, etc.

I bought half a dozen of sextoys or gadgets you can find on internet.
Best results came with manual stretches for skin, and wearing 5-6 big rubber band for hair (lol) during 30min up to 1 hour sessions. It was cheaper, easier to hide or replace when broken than a classic ball stretcher.

The result ? Amazing. Balls stretching works. My balls hang lower, and I think that helped flaccid length. Having the balls loudly slapping the cunt during intercourse is something my woman and I really enjoy lol.

I stopped there, but I was on the same road of this guy who has a site dealing with having lower hanging balls. I consider he went to far, his balls hang too low.
You don't want to step on your nuts when you walk in the street.

Anyway, job done : I checked 'lower balls' in my PE task list, and now I keep on pulling/stretching for maintenance and for the good sensation it brings.

Conclusions of the lower-balls journey

The good surprise is that during this journey to lower balls, I benefited of two side-effects that helped me improve my BTB grips :
- balls are hanging lower, so I have more space for my fingers.
- tissues around my balls are conditioned to be stretched, moved, touched, even a little compressed.
I know my body better. I know how far I can go if I want to stretch. If necessary, I can easily move the balls to the left or to the right to make room for my fingers, in order to hold firmly the internal penis.

Also, I found working on this part of the penis improved my erection quality during sex, or morning boners. When I jelqs with BTB grips, I'm hard as wood.

Did I hurt myself at anytime ? Did my balls complain ? Never.
Because I'm careful and if I feel a single little sign of pain, I immediately try something else.
I've seen posts talking about spermatic cords or other things to take care of.
For me, that's preventing us from trying. Just be cautious and go slowly, that's all.

At this time, I'm still improving the grips combinated with jelqing.
Between the ass and the lower part of the shaft, above the testicles, I have about 10 centimeters of hidden penis to work on.
 
BTC stretchings is effective because Imho is breaking different angles,besides i can feel when the skin gets really stretched most of the time i have late night session n sometimes i can only spend 25 to 30 mins stretching...

(odd things become natural. But at first, any new visitor here is like Neo who first hears about the matrix.)TRUE n once the mind starts to understand that we can change the size of our penises the body starts to follow the mind.Definitely i never imagined i could gain n yeah i have gained. ihavent reached my goal yet but my journey will continue.;)


The inner penis stretching is a bit harder but once those hidden inches start to come out the reward is priceless!
 
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doublelongdaddy;659418 said:
Behind the Balls grip was proposed by RedZulu but I think it was causing pain for some users. I personally do not feel any pain. I do not think it would make a huge difference in gripping BTB or just gripping at extreme base but I will try it this evening and let you know what I think. I really like the article and it does touch on very important issues. I really wish I had my study done to throw my hat into this but still dealing with family issues. Thank you so much Doundar for your contribution. Extremely impressive as your 17th post.

It definitely causes pain for me to grip behind the balls, I have to just get as low as I can on the shaft for my expressive stretches.
 
JakeM82;659886 said:
It definitely causes pain for me to grip behind the balls, I have to just get as low as I can on the shaft for my expressive stretches.

Same here. I get much more internal penis by going deep into the base and stretching from there.
 
aha guy... I'm happy to introduce... (drums roll)... the "Behind The Balls Bundled Stretch".

First, an example of BTB stretch. The grip is the easiest I found. I have one or two others but the photo is self explanatory I find.

View attachment 30899

Then...taadaaa.. here is a twist with a bundled stretch, using the other hand to turn the internal penis in order to stretch harder.

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True BTC stretchings are painful specialy whit the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] but gains are hidden there,the skin gets really stretched:P
 
shortdick;659968 said:
True BTC stretchings are painful specialy whit the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] but gains are hidden there,the skin gets really stretched:P

Sure.

To prevent confusion, because this is very different:

BTC = Between the cheeks (pulling towards this direction and holding at the base of the shaft)
BTB = Behind the balls (holding manually the hidden penis, as close as possible to your butt hole)

[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Lengthmaster[/words] is surely great for stretching from the shaft, but for me it's really different.

I have to check for RedZulu posts because I find too bad this subject has not been more detailed.

When you hold behind the balls, when you massage, jelq or manually stretch there, you are directly in contact with the body. There is almost no interference with the skin of the upper part or with the suspensory ligaments. When we speak about working the internal penis, for me pulling with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] at the base above the balls compared to gripping directly the lower penis behind the balls is like knocking at a door or being directly inside the house. This is not an offense to DLD or the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Lengthmaster[/words] to consider there are still things to discover here.

The two immediate interesting effects I see with internal penis grips are:

- you know how to get some immediate temporary gain (1 or 2 cm in length, some girth) by clamping there a little bit and engorging the dick with blood without entering in erection. Useful for showers in public space and for having more grip area for bundled stretch. If I could manage to keep the same blood volume for longer time, I wonder if it may increase flaccid volume. I start thinking about clamping the internal penis with an open (internal) cock ring or something else (a PE modified version of this kind of thing for hair: http://womenmag.fr/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/pince-cheveux-coiffeuse-large.jpg)

- chiefly, you can feel, massage this part. Now when I'm erect, this area is bigger and harder than before, so I noticed some change. I included [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] in my routine, but I'm convinced my BTB work is responsible for that. I would compare that with fitness and musculation for getting back my 6-pack abs. Of course I can (and have to) do fitness workout but I also focus on this part mentally and personaly, I felt that massaging the muscles helped to get more definition and probably helped to get rid of some fat. So for me, it is a logical conclusion that working manually BTB will have complementary effect on erection quality and gains. Now, I need to improve my technics for pulling, twisting and assisting that in a passive way for longer than 2 or 3 minutes (I lack privacy and time, but I spend long time sitting at work).
 
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So you think is a more effective than Doing the base grip [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] bundled stretches..........yeah i understand the exercise is grabbing the area between the tests and the anus way too close to the anus.. I think the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] can really pull the inner penis out whit out doing the exercise you are talking about.But if the exercise you explained above really works n can get gains quicker would be an amazing contribution!!!..SRT six months 2 inches BTB exercises...would be great to know about your progression whit the BTB:)
 
shortdick;660115 said:
So you think is a more effective than Doing the base grip [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] bundled stretches..........yeah i understand the exercise is grabbing the area between the tests and the anus way too close to the anus.. I think the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] can really pull the inner penis out whit out doing the exercise you are talking about.But if the exercise you explained above really works n can get gains quicker would be an amazing contribution!!!..SRT six months 2 inches BTB exercises...would be great to know about your progression whit the BTB:)

That's it.

No doubt Lenghtmaster is great for expressing internal penis. I intend to get one in the future.
I don't say BTB is better than [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words].

I just say BTB is something complementary that should help bring gains, whatever you use aside of that (LM, [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], etc.). I included in my daily routine, got the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and it seems my gains have accelerated. My flaccid gains is also really interesting.

It it hard to say what brings more, but I believe in the mix of all that.

With internal bundled stretch, I can prepare the "internal hidden tunica" just the same way DLD recommends to apply bundled stretches manually before putting an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words].

This is just common sense.

Why working only on the visible part (warming, stretching, preparing tunica, working girth...) when you can try to apply most of your manual exercises to the whole penis?

The main problem is that people do not know how to grab this part, of feel/fear some pain.
You can wind up completely a penis shaft with the whole hand, and that is not the case for the internal penis.

So it takes some time to find the proper technics, but this is a minor obstacle once you think it deserves some time.

I'll publish my logs and some photos.

I lack time for daily PE but you can expect to hear about visible gains on a half-month time scale.
 
^Nice bro I remember once I gained about half-inch length, and some girth just from low grip stretches *high-five*
I'm looking forward to your gains.
 
shortdick;659968 said:
True BTC stretchings are painful specialy whit the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] but gains are hidden there,the skin gets really stretched:P

As the skin stretches the pain will go away.
 
doublelongdaddy;660211 said:
As the skin stretches the pain will go away.

Yeah I had skin stretching at first too, but it got much better over time and gains followed.
 
JakeM82;660217 said:
Yeah I had skin stretching at first too, but it got much better over time and gains followed.

skin stretching n gains hope going to the next level whit the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words];)
 
Doundar;660148 said:
That's it.

No doubt Lenghtmaster is great for expressing internal penis. I intend to get one in the future.
I don't say BTB is better than [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words].

I just say BTB is something complementary that should help bring gains, whatever you use aside of that (LM, [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], etc.). I included in my daily routine, got the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and it seems my gains have accelerated. My flaccid gains is also really interesting.

It it hard to say what brings more, but I believe in the mix of all that.

With internal bundled stretch, I can prepare the "internal hidden tunica" just the same way DLD recommends to apply bundled stretches manually before putting an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words].

This is just common sense.

Why working only on the visible part (warming, stretching, preparing tunica, working girth...) when you can try to apply most of your manual exercises to the whole penis?

The main problem is that people do not know how to grab this part, of feel/fear some pain.
You can wind up completely a penis shaft with the whole hand, and that is not the case for the internal penis.

So it takes some time to find the proper technics, but this is a minor obstacle once you think it deserves some time.

I'll publish my logs and some photos.

I lack time for daily PE but you can expect to hear about visible gains on a half-month time scale.

sure would be amazing to know about your gains....n the exercises you could develop ;)
 
JakeM82;660217 said:
Yeah I had skin stretching at first too, but it got much better over time and gains followed.

Exactly. And when we approach another exercise that we never had before there may be skin stretch necessary then too, so this is not only a newbie issue. Many guys, who use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words], talk about how they needed to stretch the skin before they felt like they were effecting tissue. This is a normal part of PE in every way. Skin needs to give room for gains.
 
> Many guys, who use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words], talk about how they needed to stretch the skin before they felt like they were effecting tissue. This is a normal part of PE in every way. Skin needs to give room for gains

For me, this is exactly the problem I see with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Lengthmaster[/words] andits full potential. When I stretch (for flaccid stretch lenght for example), I have the feeling that the ligs and the upper part of the skin (on the pubic bone, I mean the external skin that hold the penis) both prevent from growing longer.

When I stretch flaccid from midshaft, it would be like if most of the tension was on the pubic skin + tunica, not the internal parts, and maybe I should work as much on that, or maybe more, as I work on internal penis or tunica.

A scientific experiment to do would aim to show where the skin stretch /resistance is at its strongest and where the skin prevents length gain, so that we can work harder on this part.
Maybe an idea would be to draw a square matrix on the flaccid skin and see the deformations, and where no additional deformation is possible when you put an additional vertical force for example.

We all can feel the stretching is not uniform, and the parts (skin, tunica or other) to improve are those that resist the most to the manual stretch, or that slow down the overall volume gain.

This kind of pic can help see what I mean :
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You can find on internet some graphic visualisation of the most intense stretch on rulers, plastic components, etc.. Sometimes they illustrate the effect of something that prevents from moving or that changes a direction, and you discover that the stretch is more intense or has more amplitude. That's why A-stretch or bendlded stretches are great.

Maybe there are some videos that would help to understand. I have to check internet, those are not exactly what can describe what I mean.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asBW0Ojc0bY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRS2A9w-Y88

The first screenshot of this video shows the distribution of constraint and deformation, and explains why bundled stretches rock (2-direction stress)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soYwaW54WRg

Are there any existing pics / models of this kind for skin/penis stretching ? If no, we could create them for PE science lol.

Edit :
Maybe this kind of technology would help measure the constraints, see where deformations are bigger and then which part of skin/tissue to extend to get longer/wider expansion lol
Ultrathin "Diagnostic Skin" Allows Continuous Patient Monitoring | National Institute of Biomedical Imaging and Bioengineering
 
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Doundar;660381 said:
> Many guys, who use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words], talk about how they needed to stretch the skin before they felt like they were effecting tissue. This is a normal part of PE in every way. Skin needs to give room for gains

For me, this is exactly the problem I see with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Lengthmaster[/words] andits full potential. When I stretch (for flaccid stretch lenght for example), I have the feeling that the ligs and the upper part of the skin (on the pubic bone, I mean the external skin that hold the penis) both prevent from growing longer.

When I stretch flaccid from midshaft, it would be like if most of the tension was on the pubic skin + tunica, not the internal parts, and maybe I should work as much on that, or maybe more, as I work on internal penis or tunica.

A scientific experiment to do would aim to show where the skin stretch /resistance is at its strongest and where the skin prevents length gain, so that we can work harder on this part.
Maybe an idea would be to draw a square matrix on the flaccid skin and see the deformations, and where no additional deformation is possible when you put an additional vertical force for example.

We all can feel the stretching is not uniform, and the parts (skin, tunica or other) to improve are those that resist the most to the manual stretch, or that slow down the overall volume gain.

This kind of pic can help see what I mean :
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You can find on internet some graphic visualisation of the most intense stretch on rulers, plastic components, etc.. Sometimes they illustrate the effect of something that prevents from moving or that changes a direction, and you discover that the stretch is more intense or has more amplitude. That's why A-stretch or bendlded stretches are great.

Maybe there are some videos that would help to understand. I have to check internet, those are not exactly what can describe what I mean.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asBW0Ojc0bY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRS2A9w-Y88

The first screenshot of this video shows the distribution of constraint and deformation, and explains why bundled stretches rock (2-direction stress)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soYwaW54WRg

Are there any existing pics / models of this kind for skin/penis stretching ? If no, we could create them for PE science lol.

Edit :
Maybe this kind of technology would help measure the constraints, see where deformations are bigger and then which part of skin/tissue to extend to get longer/wider expansion lol
Ultrathin "Diagnostic Skin" Allows Continuous Patient Monitoring | National Institute of Biomedical Imaging and Bioengineering


Great work! Excellent!
 
Great PE science LOL,the skin on the pubic area gets really stretched n gets "broken" n allows the inner penis to expand..whit the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] is a reality,while im strteching BTC i stretch n i can feel the stretching,but i can only stretch the skin gradually...LOL

yeah i stretch the skin when i hit certain angles,true ....n i think is opening the door to gains...i had this idea before i could own a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words],that once i had one,my gains would come to me in a much easier way..n yeah im almost sure about that,if a man spends a three month period using the device n following a proper routine he can get amazing Gains....

I think you have to continue whit your BTB exercises n let us know about the gains you may get...:)
 
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shortdick;660518 said:
I think you have to continue whit your BTB exercises n let us know about the gains you may get...:)

As I explaind in my recent logs, I think my dick gained 1 inch in between 3-6 months. The growth has clearly accelerated in the last 3 months because of this combination:
  • having more PE sessions (per week and even per day, passing from 1/day to 2-3/day) and longer PE sessions (from 30 mins in start 2015 to up-to 4-5 hours/day with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] added in july)
  • using [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]
  • using more intense stretches
  • using BTB stretches

In fact, I grew more in three months than in two years. PE results may differ from everyone's genes, skin or other parameters, but I'm the proof that technics + method + equipment is from very far the best friend to invest on.

Also, results came from applying [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] principles. I'm amazed to see how DLD put us in the right way. I would compare him to Ross Jeffries or Mystery, for those who know about pickup, or a John Rohn / Anthony Robbins in personal development.

I don't know if I'll get to a plateau but I expect to gain a further inch in length. My only problem is to have the necessary time and privacy.

Another interesting thing:
I pumped yesterday night for girth, and did nothing related to length. This morning, my hidden penis was well engorged, quite impressive, I rarely had it so big. I think I'll split length and girth work, as discussed in another thread related to stretching after girth work.
 
Doundar;660528 said:
I pumped yesterday night for girth, and did nothing related to length. This morning, my hidden penis was well engorged, quite impressive, I rarely had it so big. I think I'll split length and girth work, as discussed in another thread related to stretching after girth work.

How cool! I'm currently trying to do lots of bathmates, and you inspire me to complement it with some good ole low-grip stretches:blush:
 
Btb stretching feels very awkward for me but I still appreciate the well thought out posts doundar! Also your thing about the square matrix showing us where deformation is and isn't happening, it makes me think bundled stretching is the answer because you are hitting the WHOLE tunica. Very nice ideas I hope you keep posting
 
acromegaly;660539 said:
Btb stretching feels very awkward for me but I still appreciate the well thought out posts doundar!

It feels this way for many but in the cases where a man's ligaments are too long the only way he can make ligament gains is by using BTC stretching. In the BTC position the ligaments will never be too long.
 
doublelongdaddy;660585 said:
It feels this way for many but in the cases where a man's ligaments are too long the only way he can make ligament gains is by using BTC stretching. In the BTC position the ligaments will never be too long.


everytime i stretch btc i can feel real stretching n i how the skin gets ripped...BTC to the center is a quite powerful stretching
 
shortdick;660617 said:
everytime i stretch btc i can feel real stretching n i how the skin gets ripped...BTC to the center is a quite powerful stretching

Go gentle until you can go all the way back. At the point of feeling skin stretch stop there. As time goes on the stretch point will go further back.
 
doublelongdaddy;660737 said:
Go gentle until you can go all the way back. At the point of feeling skin stretch stop there. As time goes on the stretch point will go further back.

It took me about the first 2 weeks of use of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] to get passed the skin stretching sensation and get to actually stretching the penis.
 
doublelongdaddy;660737 said:
Go gentle until you can go all the way back. At the point of feeling skin stretch stop there. As time goes on the stretch point will go further back.

ok slowly but surely,gains will come [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Lm[/words] is the magical device;) most of the time i try to stretch as far as back n the skin on the pubic area gets really stretched
 
shortdick;660749 said:
ok slowly but surely,gains will come [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Lm[/words] is the magical device;) most of the time i try to stretch as far as back n the skin on the pubic area gets really stretched

Thats fine, just don't rusk and rip the skin. You may want to do them manually too to see if you can make some head room that way with skin stretch.
 
Stretching the inner penis out seems to be a lot more effective than mid shaft stretching because really pulls the inner penis out,but i have this idea that takes a lot more to get lenght gains whit this exercise...Im not really sure how it works,i believe the base of the penis gets girthier,n once the base is filled whit the inner penis the lenght grow continues to the middle and the "upper"part of the penis....?:(

any comments ideas etc THANKS

I guess I'm one of the few guys here who gained 2.25 inches in length without doing expressive stretching. It feels good to be focusing on expressive stretching now.
 
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