oddly enough, I've found that I respond best with a super-intense workout 4-5 days per week and then no PE (just sex w/my GF) for 2 days...I just had a 4 day lay-off and had the best session today (so go figure)
 
wanttogain;746839 said:
should i do this routine twice a day morning and evening?
i have a gf that a live with in an apartment so its tough to have privacy.
but twice a day or once a day is best?

I can see where it would be tough getting your session in if you live with your gf. It makes it even worse when she is not a fan of what you are doing. You said that she has caught you using your pump so do you think it would help by trying to talk with her about it and let her know why you are doing it. That can be a double edged sword but it would give you the opportunity to let her know why you do it and your thinking on the subject
 
This thread is fantastic. I hope everyone had a splendid thanksgiving! I can attest to the squeezes and SSJs mentioned by stillwantmore. I gained a little over an eighth of an inch in about 2 months from that before a minor setback injury. It works, but don’t overdo it and build it up. Egg, you are cracking me up btw man. Me and you think a lot alike. I cannot wait to reach your level (maybe a bit more girth :P ) and destroy some of these poor girls!
 
stillwantmore2;746664 said:
If you want girth, focus on it exclusively. Hard core squeezes like horse squeezes and slow squash jelqs. Maybe look into clamping as well.

I think I have to agree with SWM. If you want girth, you must focus on it exclusively. As for length? Same principle applies. I have been working on both for years, and I can only say that, for me, one interferes with the other. If I do a heavy girth workout, for example, incorporating jelq, Clamping and, of course, the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words], I am pumped to the hilt for sure. But a lot of that is fluid retention. Especially being uncut! Where does the fluid accumulate? In the skin. And those of us who are uncut have...MORE SKIN! But I think this applies to everyone for the following reasons. In my length workout, I use various approaches. Sometimes manual stretches (straight, bundled, V-stretches, etc). Sometimes I use a hanger (SWM's device) and I always use either my X4 [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] or, preferably or in combination with, my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Forte[/words]. However, because of the massive Fluid retention from girth workouts, I cannot add my length routine properly. With so much fluid buildup, hooking up the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], or the PF is really difficult. Everything is "swollen" and causing pinching and, even if you get things hooked up ok, there is additional fluid retention and swelling. Also, I've been using the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] for about a month now, and it's a great all/day, all/night stretcher. But for me, after a girth workout, I'm just too pumped to make things work properly. Fortunately, when I ordered the PF, I also ordered the XL bell. Because it is the only one I can use, and just barely. And using my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is equally difficult because of so much excess skin, swelling, fluid retention etc. Just a fucking pain in the ass trying to connect to these fine devices where you are full of fluid, etc. As a result, after a good girth session, I don't do any length routine for at least 12 hours, and it takes much longer (a full day or 2) before the fluid retention subsides and using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and PF become easier to work with. So, this is what I'm thinking: Since I've recently spent a small fortune on my X4 [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Length Master[/words] and the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Forte[/words], I'm going to go "exclusively" for length for a while. 4,5, 6 months or longer. If and when I achieve my length gain goals, I will switch to exclusively doing girth work. And I am not worried about cementing my length gains, because doing heavy, intense jelqs, clamping and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] stretching will surely insure my length gains remain, if not increase.

Now, I know there are some who will disagree and insist you can work both, but I don't think so. At least not for me. All additional girth work time, for me, detracts from length work. And the constant juggling with swelling, fluid retention etc is one big pain in the ass!!! So again, I think Stillwantmore2 is correct. If you want girth, work on it exclusively. And, I think, the same applies for length.

My 2cents worth.

Cheers
Fillerup
 
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wanttogain;746839 said:
should i do this routine twice a day morning and evening?
i have a gf that a live with in an apartment so its tough to have privacy.
but twice a day or once a day is best?

That was what I did, I was only showing you where I got the time from. Once per day is plenty, I was a psycho and would do 2-3 sessions a day as I wanted gains as fast as possible.
 
bandit2010;746331 said:
yeah and most of what I gained was because of doing basic jelqing,

when you gained 1 1/4in girth from basic jelqing. can you tell me how many reps would you do daily? what angle & intensit? Also describe your form? im amazed by your gains just by jelqing.
 
wanttogain;747535 said:
when you gained 1 1/4in girth from basic jelqing. can you tell me how many reps would you do daily? what angle & intensit? Also describe your form? im amazed by your gains just by jelqing.

Probably one of the biggest gains made using the jelq alone. Most men usually with at around the .5" mark switching to something more intense.
 
doublelongdaddy;747595 said:
Probably one of the biggest gains made using the jelq alone. Most men usually with at around the .5" mark switching to something more intense.

scary thought: what if The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] products were available when you began your journey?
 
Big Schwanz Acht;747654 said:
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doublelongdaddy;747694 said:
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those of us that are relatively new to PE, have no idea how good we have it :)
 
Big Schwanz Acht;747735 said:
those of us that are relatively new to PE, have no idea how good we have it :)

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so i have been doing PE for about 3 years on and off. mostly pumping for larger girth before sex. back when i first started pumping with vacutech i gained about .4-.5 in girth. i went from 4.5 to 5in. since then i have not really consistently did much manual work. which i think is why i have not gained girth since.

im currently about BPEL 7in 4.9-5in mid girth.

my penis has become an obsession and its effecting my self esteem. i feel as if its thin.

i started doing a solid jelqing routine 3-5s jelqs pushing the blood well.

questions i have

1) what is the best angle to jelq for the best girth expansion. Up, straight, or down?
2) should i always enter a pump hard and stay hard through adult entertainment - otherwise i feel i get softer as time in tube goes on.
3) how many jelqs a day?

[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] - my opinion how is it possible to gain hot and sweaty in a bathtub by just pushing blood around. unlike jelqing you kegel new blood and stretch the tissue. im confused how [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] can be effective.

im not to worried about length because my girl says its so long. but i feel its due to my average girth.

please help.
thanks guys

I will not allow my girl come in between myself and my PE goal. If your girl say your penis is too long and you decide to listen to her and stop stretching, you will regret it when the relationship crashes.
 
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