Dr Elist Penile Implant. What do ya think about this?

Hell to the no! Too risky IMO.

Also, look at the second picture down the page......the 'after' pic is not the same unit as the 'before' pic! Look at the difference in skin colour of the balls, the body.......nah......not convinced. PE seems safer, can be done completely free of charge, sky's the limit for size, nobody cuts your fireman and you can stop or take a break from it anytime you like.

No contest, in my opinion - but it depends on your hurry. I reckon I've gained almost half an inch in length in my first month and like I said - sky's the limit.
 
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It's an artificial material implanted under the skin of the penis. Too expensive, risk of infection, risk of rejection, penis never feels natural again....you always know there's something in it....so will your partner/s.
 
stillwantmore2;705036 said:
It's an artificial material implanted under the skin of the penis. Too expensive, risk of infection, risk of rejection, penis never feels natural again....you always know there's something in it....so will your partner/s.
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Wouldn't same thing apply if you would like pump/jelq/clamp your penis to cause slight fluid retention/edema as a size increase? ;)
 
habban;705037 said:
Wouldn't same thing apply if you would like pump/jelq/clamp your penis to cause slight fluid retention/edema as a size increase? ;)
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No. With these methods, you may get some fluid retention if they are over done. That however, is temporary. As you make gains and get bigger, the new size becomes permanent. Making the penis bigger by placing an artificial substance under the skin of the penis is not the same.
 
stillwantmore2;705038 said:
No. With these methods, you may get some fluid retention if they are over done. That however, is temporary. As you make gains and get bigger, the new size becomes permanent. Making the penis bigger by placing an artificial substance under the skin of the penis is not the same.
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It's just that i have read that gradual fluid retentions can eventually get permanent if you are unlucky, and if you get those your penis itself is more prone to infections. That is why i said what i did.
But i agree that placing an artificial substance under the skin is literally not the same, but it could still share some of the side-effects as PE can do.
 
Please share your sources. Where did you read this about fluid retention? I have never read such things. Not saying, it's not true....but you should say where you read it so the validity can be looked into. If it's just PE forum 'bro science' vs actual medial fact....
 
I'm never a fan of any physical artificial(implant) enhancement. this just simply increases the flaccid size.
I would think, once this procedure is done, natural PE activity is no longer an option...
 
Go register on phalloboards and read the progress reports written by people who received the elist implant. All were dissatisfied, many went suicidal... If you are determined to undergo surgical enlargement I would try a temporary filler like HA. Any ways I never did surgery and gained 2 inches girth doing [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bath mate[/words]. May the force be with you
 
stillwantmore2;705040 said:
Please share your sources. Where did you read this about fluid retention? I have never read such things. Not saying, it's not true....but you should say where you read it so the validity can be looked into. If it's just PE forum 'bro science' vs actual medial fact....
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I just googled it like i googled this site. Found it on something that appeared to be a medical site with information about edema.
Googling a little bit further gave me the knowledge that edema can come in various types. Do you know which type of edema is caused by pumping?
Tryed to google that one, but didn't find anything. If i could find out which "type" of edema is caused by pumping i guess it would be easier to establish if it is permanent or not.
I saw that lymphedema is permanent, maybe lymphedema isn't the type of edema caused by PE exercises.
 
Threak-X;705041 said:
I'm never a fan of any physical artificial(implant) enhancement. this just simply increases the flaccid size.
I would think, once this procedure is done, natural PE activity is no longer an option...
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I am only interested in increasing flaccid length. That's it for me.

But, no, I would never do implants.

I just need one more solid inch in flaccid length so I can hang like the biggest adult entertainment dude ever. LOL.
 
habban;705044 said:
I just googled it like i googled this site. Found it on something that appeared to be a medical site with information about edema.
Googling a little bit further gave me the knowledge that edema can come in various types. Do you know which type of edema is caused by pumping?
Tryed to google that one, but didn't find anything. If i could find out which "type" of edema is caused by pumping i guess it would be easier to establish if it is permanent or not.
I saw that lymphedema is permanent, maybe lymphedema isn't the type of edema caused by PE exercises.
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Skin Edema
 
stillwantmore2;705036 said:
It's an artificial material implanted under the skin of the penis. Too expensive, risk of infection, risk of rejection, penis never feels natural again....you always know there's something in it....so will your partner/s.
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This. Who knows how sex will affect the thing inside you and if it can be moved or hurt internally.
 
stillwantmore2;705038 said:
No. With these methods, you may get some fluid retention if they are over done. That however, is temporary. As you make gains and get bigger, the new size becomes permanent. Making the penis bigger by placing an artificial substance under the skin of the penis is not the same.
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Exactly and every procedure that is offered runs a massive MASSIVE risk of permanent impotence, infection to the point of losing parts of the penis, among other terrible outcomes. There is never a reason for any of that or the expense it comes with when you have the Brotherhood! I would love to see a doctor try to give me what I earned in PE!
 
doublelongdaddy;705120 said:
Exactly and every procedure that is offered runs a massive MASSIVE risk of permanent impotence, infection to the point of losing parts of the penis, among other terrible outcomes. There is never a reason for any of that or the expense it comes with when you have the Brotherhood! I would love to see a doctor try to give me what I earned in PE!
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I think you lose sensation with this method too.
 
kyomoto;705131 said:
I think you lose sensation with this method too.
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I wouldn't think you lose sensation because of where the incision is done. It's basically a silicone sleeve inserted into the penis area. Making you go from a grower to a shower...
 
Threak-X;705200 said:
I wouldn't think you lose sensation because of where the incision is done. It's basically a silicone sleeve inserted into the penis area. Making you go from a grower to a shower...
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So it wouldn't mess with any nerves.
 
Threak-X;705052 said:
Skin Edema
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Thank you.

Looked it up and it seems "Skin Edema" also can get permanent somehow if not treated.
I took "under-eye edema" as the subject, and this is "Skin edema" pretty sure i got it right as they
were referring to this state when i read up on "skin edema".

https://www.realself.com/question/edema-under-eye-skin-laxity

The permanent state will lead to skin laxity, and measuring girth with skin laxity would improve girth in small increments if you just hold the measuring tape around your penis,
that has nothing to do with the internal proportion of the penis. Which makes it sound that pumping gains are only temporary, and the only gains that stays permanent
are when the skin is permanently laxed by the edema, in very small increasments at a time.
 
habban;705213 said:
Thank you.

Looked it up and it seems "Skin Edema" also can get permanent somehow if not treated.
I took "under-eye edema" as the subject, and this is "Skin edema" pretty sure i got it right as they
were referring to this state when i read up on "skin edema".

https://www.realself.com/question/edema-under-eye-skin-laxity

The permanent state will lead to skin laxity, and measuring girth with skin laxity would improve girth in small increments if you just hold the measuring tape around your penis,
that has nothing to do with the internal proportion of the penis. Which makes it sound that pumping gains are only temporary, and the only gains that stays permanent
are when the skin is permanently laxed by the edema, in very small increasments at a time.
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Small growth over time then and then they remove it or is it just kept there
 
kyomoto;705205 said:
So it wouldn't mess with any nerves.
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Yes, it could very well fuck with your nerves. I suggest you really research this and find the risks associated with this procedure and others like it. One member here had a procedure done only to see his penis rot away, no joke. Be careful and research your ass off before ever letting a knife come close to you.
 
doublelongdaddy;705374 said:
Yes, it could very well fuck with your nerves. I suggest you really research this and find the risks associated with this procedure and others like it. One member here had a procedure done only to see his penis rot away, no joke. Be careful and research your ass off before ever letting a knife come close to you.
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thats what i thought :/ hard to know how professional these surgeries are done
 
kyomoto;705235 said:
Small growth over time then and then they remove it or is it just kept there
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I think you have to go to the doctor so they can remove it somehow? But then you would be back to route 1 finding out that it all was temporary.
Just a theory of mine though, it's just that it makes sense.

If you asked me you would pump with pressures that doesn't cause fluid retentions but still help with blood flow.
No need to stress with pumping and cause unnecessary fluid retentions.
The blood flow should be able to encourage your penis to grow because more and more blood is rushing through it.
This blood pressure should push your limits very slightly to increase the amount of blood your penis can hold in the long run.
When you have reached a limit where your tunica is saying no, if you keep pushing at this state very carefully, it might be enough
to change your genetically limits slowly.
This is the principles my penis size increasements regarding girth has been based on the whole time regarding any exercise.


In fact, no need to stress or go too hard in any exercise. The only reason you stop gaining as fast or as good as you did in the beginning was because
you started with a penis that was not reaching its already given genetically limit regarding size. So when you do exercises that promotes blood flow
and such your penis will be able to eventually reach its genetic limits, eventually your gains will come much slower because now your penis has
a bigger proccess to handle as genetic size is reached and this will take much more time. How fast it takes is based on many different things, it differs from individual to individual.
Exercises will definitely help to promote and speed up the process. You obviously need some sort of pressure to gain size, but overpressure is counterproductive in my opinion.
 
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habban;705429 said:
I think you have to go to the doctor so they can remove it somehow? But then you would be back to route 1 finding out that it all was temporary.
Just a theory of mine though, it's just that it makes sense.

If you asked me you would pump with pressures that doesn't cause fluid retentions but still help with blood flow.
No need to stress with pumping and cause unnecessary fluid retentions.
The blood flow should be able to encourage your penis to grow because more and more blood is rushing through it.
This blood pressure should push your limits very slightly to increase the amount of blood your penis can hold in the long run.
When you have reached a limit where your tunica is saying no, if you keep pushing at this state very carefully, it might be enough
to change your genetically limits slowly.
This is the principles my penis size increasements regarding girth has been based on the whole time regarding any exercise.


In fact, no need to stress or go too hard in any exercise. The only reason you stop gaining as fast or as good as you did in the beginning was because
you started with a penis that was not reaching its already given genetically limit regarding size. So when you do exercises that promotes blood flow
and such your penis will be able to eventually reach its genetic limits, eventually your gains will come much slower because now your penis has
a bigger proccess to handle as genetic size is reached and this will take much more time. How fast it takes is based on many different things, it differs from individual to individual.
Exercises will definitely help to promote and speed up the process. You obviously need some sort of pressure to gain size, but overpressure is counterproductive in my opinion.
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It just doesn't make sense if you were to keep it. That would be serious problems, if they removed it but let the penis heal with the new size maybe that would be better
 
kyomoto;705446 said:
It just doesn't make sense if you were to keep it. That would be serious problems, if they removed it but let the penis heal with the new size maybe that would be better
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It sounds like we have somehow misunderstood each other about the doctor & edema subject. Could very well be me that misunderstood you. I'm good at misunderstand people x)
All i'm saying is.. If you get permanent edema on your penis and it is permanent, but still "treatable", so it's sort of not permanent, but it still needs treatment to be fixed, and i don't know how much it costs
or how serious or dangerous it is to fix it or how they even do it, can't say because i'm not experienced in that subject. Ofcourse you have to go to the doctor or where the hell you go to fix the problem to get rid of this "permanent but still fixable" state
of edema on your penis. When you have treated it, the "permanent" area will be gone, and if this area did bring size gains on the measuring tape, ofcourse those measurements will be lost. But the other "real" gains as i call them
will not be lost. The gains that is caused because you have bigger CC/CS & tunica along with more blood flow to fill them up.

Do we understand each other here, or did i miss what you meant? If i did, feel free to explain :D

The other shit i spoke about beneath the "doctor" thing was just how i believe penis size is gained, particularly with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].
 
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doublelongdaddy;705374 said:
Yes, it could very well fuck with your nerves. I suggest you really research this and find the risks associated with this procedure and others like it. One member here had a procedure done only to see his penis rot away, no joke. Be careful and research your ass off before ever letting a knife come close to you.
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OMG, I remember that guy, horrifying pictures. A little while after his Penis augmentation surgery he developed an infection and the body tissue(s) was rotting away as DLD mentioned. It created a hole and it progressively became bigger and bigger. With any type of surgery, no matter what, there is always a risk of danger and complications during and after.

Personally, I'm not a fan of surgical physical-enhancements, unless deformed naturally or unnaturally. I take care of me, Physical, Mental, Emotional, and Spiritually. You only get one vehicle(body) to drive around on this planet. Learn to properly care for it, use it, and enhance it. You should have some respect and a sense of responsibility for what you own. Otherwise, it's eventually gets tossed in the dumpster with the other trash.
 
Threak-X;705478 said:
OMG, I remember that guy, horrifying pictures. A little while after his Penis augmentation surgery he developed an infection and the body tissue(s) was rotting away as DLD mentioned. It created a hole and it progressively became bigger and bigger. With any type of surgery, no matter what, there is always a risk of danger and complications during and after.

Personally, I'm not a fan of surgical physical-enhancements, unless deformed naturally or unnaturally. I take care of me, Physical, Mental, Emotional, and Spiritually. You only get one vehicle(body) to drive around on this planet. Learn to properly care for it, use it, and enhance it. You should have some respect and a sense of responsibility for what you own. Otherwise, it's eventually gets tossed in the dumpster with the other trash.
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Such tragic and terrible fate!
 
habban;705476 said:
It sounds like we have somehow misunderstood each other about the doctor & edema subject. Could very well be me that misunderstood you. I'm good at misunderstand people x)
All i'm saying is.. If you get permanent edema on your penis and it is permanent, but still "treatable", so it's sort of not permanent, but it still needs treatment to be fixed, and i don't know how much it costs
or how serious or dangerous it is to fix it or how they even do it, can't say because i'm not experienced in that subject. Ofcourse you have to go to the doctor or where the hell you go to fix the problem to get rid of this "permanent but still fixable" state
of edema on your penis. When you have treated it, the "permanent" area will be gone, and if this area did bring size gains on the measuring tape, ofcourse those measurements will be lost. But the other "real" gains as i call them
will not be lost. The gains that is caused because you have bigger CC/CS & tunica along with more blood flow to fill them up.

Do we understand each other here, or did i miss what you meant? If i did, feel free to explain :D

The other shit i spoke about beneath the "doctor" thing was just how i believe penis size is gained, particularly with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].
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Note that when i stated that it wasn't just a statement for you directly but the procedure itself and my own thoughts without including your information you provided me before. I lost track that I quoted you.
 
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