this guy has done a lot of research on tongkat.

http://www.sexualenhancement.org/

he says it does make your actual testicles bigger, and makes you gain muscle faster in the gym, and makes you horny. generally i think the idea is that tongkat stimulates your brain to stimulate your balls to make more testosterone.
 
I tried Tongkat Ali and had a different reaction. It made my joints hurt- specifically my knees.
Don't ask me how or why, but I've gone on it for a week or two, and ended up with joint aches and knee pains, and when I went off it, it went away. I really didn't notice any other benefit. It must cause some sort of inflammation of the tissues.

I kept thinking it was something unrelated, and had kept reading about the stuff and never a thing about this reaction. But after the last episode I just poured the pills down the drain. I'd had enough........! Never again.
 
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