but never did a stretch routine,nothing at all.my routines consisted mainly of jelqing,clamping,edging,and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s.i began the newbie stretch routine on monday and will report my gains in a month or 2 if anyones interested.