My question is what are the average length and girth gains for 3 months, 6 months and 1 year just doing basic stretching, some passive PE and jelqing? I usually do about a half hour stretching routine every morning followed by at least 1-3 hours in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and then pretty much the rest of the day in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words]. I have also just recently whipped up a homeade [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] that I am going to start using soon and it seems promising! I also do some wet jelqs here and there but not too serious about girth at the moment.

So yes, moral of the story is what would be the average length/girth gains within those 3 time periods listed above?

Thanks bros!
 
Obviously we all grow at different rates. Genetic freaks will grow longer and wider quicker, while some of us will take longer.
But Kyomoto definitely laid out the general lengths. That's what we all have to look forward to in the future!
 
PGApro;699132 said:
Obviously we all grow at different rates. Genetic freaks will grow longer and wider quicker, while some of us will take longer.
But Kyomoto definitely laid out the general lengths. That's what we all have to look forward to in the future!

I dont know if you read his question or not so I will repost what he asked and bold out what he wanted in his answer.

eugine8plz;699122 said:
My question is what are the average length and girth gains for 3 months, 6 months and 1 year just doing basic stretching, some passive PE and jelqing?0
 
kyomoto;699125 said:
3 months length 0.25"-0.5 "
6 months length 0.75"-1"
1 year length 1"-2"
3 months girth 0.25"
6 months girth 0.5"
1 year girth 0.75"-1"

Note this is incremental and the measurements for each month or year.
I'd agree with the three month mark, but assuming he sticks with this basic routine, it will take longer to gain 1"-2". I wore an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for the same amount of time a day and had a much more advanced routine and didn't manage that. I know everyone gains differently but if the routine stays basic like he implied I'd say...

3 months 1/4"
6 months 3/8"
12 months 1/2"-5/8"

And Eugene you will not gain much girth until you get serious about it, but a lot of guys go after length first (including myself).
 
Its quite hard to answer your question since everyone grows at a different pace. If you are consistent with your workout you will gain, plain and simple.
 
Averaging is difficult but if I go by general data that I have studied over the years a typical gain over a year can be anywhere from 1" to 2", Girth in one year anywhere from 1/2" to an inch. Some men will gain much faster and others will not. The reason some do not make these gains are due to either intensity or form. In every case, when a Brother comes for help when his gains have slowed, he always gets good advice and continues to gain. PE, in the Brotherhood, is helping each other grow in every way possible. Those who are fast gainers can share their experience with those who may have not made the gains they desire in which case they may find the critical clue to the reason through another Brother. Share your gains but also ask for help, these 2 things keep us gaining.
 
ThatDude512;699139 said:
I'd agree with the three month mark, but assuming he sticks with this basic routine, it will take longer to gain 1"-2". I wore an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for the same amount of time a day and had a much more advanced routine and didn't manage that. I know everyone gains differently but if the routine stays basic like he implied I'd say...

3 months 1/4"
6 months 3/8"
12 months 1/2"-5/8"

And Eugene you will not gain much girth until you get serious about it, but a lot of guys go after length first (including myself).

Ya I am not really worried about the girth at the moment I was just wondering what the average girth gain was just incase I start actually trying to gain it in the future. But yes I am going to stick with this routine for the next 2-3 months or so and after that I am going to start looking into other things
 
doublelongdaddy;699160 said:
Averaging is difficult but if I go by general data that I have studied over the years a typical gain over a year can be anywhere from 1" to 2", Girth in one year anywhere from 1/2" to an inch. Some men will gain much faster and others will not. The reason some do not make these gains are due to either intensity or form. In every case, when a Brother comes for help when his gains have slowed, he always gets good advice and continues to gain. PE, in the Brotherhood, is helping each other grow in every way possible. Those who are fast gainers can share their experience with those who may have not made the gains they desire in which case they may find the critical clue to the reason through another Brother. Share your gains but also ask for help, these 2 things keep us gaining.

There is an average but most likely it will always be inconsistent since some people experience "intensity" differently
 
inconsistency is a really harmful thing....If most bros could spend exercising one year non stop theyd get great gains,SRT, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words],Can change the whole game!!:)
 
kyomoto;699194 said:
There is an average but most likely it will always be inconsistent since some people experience "intensity" differently

I am going by the mean averages of what I have studied over the past 14 years. There is definitely variation but I am more talking about what "most" men gain with a solid program.
 
kyomoto;699138 said:
I dont know if you read his question or not so I will repost what he asked and bold out what he wanted in his answer.

I was basically saying what DLD ended up saying in more laid out terms. Just that there is no specific number because we all grow at different rates. All good my brother.
 
eugine8plz;699122 said:
My question is what are the average length and girth gains for 3 months, 6 months and 1 year just doing basic stretching, some passive PE and jelqing? I usually do about a half hour stretching routine every morning followed by at least 1-3 hours in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and then pretty much the rest of the day in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words]. I have also just recently whipped up a homeade [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] that I am going to start using soon and it seems promising! I also do some wet jelqs here and there but not too serious about girth at the moment.

So yes, moral of the story is what would be the average length/girth gains within those 3 time periods listed above?

Thanks bros!

i would try to do the stretching with a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] you can hold the stretches as long as you need to and pull harder.
 
acromegaly;699297 said:
i would try to do the stretching with a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] you can hold the stretches as long as you need to and pull harder.

yeah holding them for as long we want ....fucking nice idea!:O:)
 
PGApro;699291 said:
I was basically saying what DLD ended up saying in more laid out terms. Just that there is no specific number because we all grow at different rates. All good my brother.

Oh okay :) We should conduct a test on newbies, at least 10 to begin with. With 1 routine. And they should record themselves doing it so we can see if they're doing it properly. Give them feedback and see the differences in gains between each.
 
PGApro;699291 said:
I was basically saying what DLD ended up saying in more laid out terms. Just that there is no specific number because we all grow at different rates. All good my brother.

Yup there is going to be a top end and a low end, but most fall in the middle.
 
kyomoto;699313 said:
Oh okay :) We should conduct a test on newbies, at least 10 to begin with. With 1 routine. And they should record themselves doing it so we can see if they're doing it properly. Give them feedback and see the differences in gains between each.

That would be a great idea actually. That way it's documented on how to do everything properly but also physical proof that it works for the non believers.
 
PGApro;699530 said:
That would be a great idea actually. That way it's documented on how to do everything properly but also physical proof that it works for the non believers.

Exactly. This is why I want to get my Masters degree already so I can be at least credible. Other doctors will try and put me down because they want to make money off the surgery but I will expose them to the truth.
 
kyomoto;699567 said:
Exactly. This is why I want to get my Masters degree already so I can be at least credible. Other doctors will try and put me down because they want to make money off the surgery but I will expose them to the truth.

I got my degree in the field I work in and left. Get me the hell away from school 😂😂😂
 
kyomoto;699567 said:
Exactly. This is why I want to get my Masters degree already so I can be at least credible. Other doctors will try and put me down because they want to make money off the surgery but I will expose them to the truth.

You don't need a degree to market PE, just get a massive dick like DLD
 
kyomoto;699609 said:
That's not credible without science nowadays which is stupid

What I am best with is Physics, any exercise I create is based on sound physical principals. In may cases I would not even need to test the exercise to know it works (even though I do). The thing is I created so many exercises that there is not too much to add. I have a few new exercises coming but they become far and between as time progresses. I do spend much thought in exercise but I also know that the future is all about equipment and manual work. So I spend much time thinking on tools.
 
I started PE like 1 and a half months ago. I measured after 9 days and had gained 1cm erect length and up til now i've made a total gain of half an inch. I got pissed off and stopped for a couple weeks and have been pretty inconsistent. The most important thing is writing down a routine and sticking exactly to it every day, then u figure out if you need to change up something
 
kyomoto;699609 said:
That's not credible without science nowadays which is stupid

Why cant you be nice like when you were trying to win the prize ?:(. See acro? This is how your likes/thanks are repaid, by calling you stupid. I can tell our zika hive mind is being triggard by this nigga's fuckshit. Report!>:(
 
Gainzzzz;699818 said:
I started PE like 1 and a half months ago. I measured after 9 days and had gained 1cm erect length and up til now i've made a total gain of half an inch. I got pissed off and stopped for a couple weeks and have been pretty inconsistent. The most important thing is writing down a routine and sticking exactly to it every day, then u figure out if you need to change up something

1cm in less than 10 days is great, that's what I made when I "first" heard about PE :) - amazing
 
Munto;699830 said:
1cm in less than 10 days is great, that's what I made when I "first" heard about PE :) - amazing

Of course it is great 30 days =3 cms thats fucking good man! youd be damn massive whitin 3 months .....im one of the hardest gainers here i suck big time haha
 
Gainzzzz;699818 said:
I started PE like 1 and a half months ago. I measured after 9 days and had gained 1cm erect length and up til now i've made a total gain of half an inch. I got pissed off and stopped for a couple weeks and have been pretty inconsistent. The most important thing is writing down a routine and sticking exactly to it every day, then u figure out if you need to change up something

Exactly. Doing it precisely or doing it to your best of your ability with all your force and focus, consistently, will give you the best of gains. Many of us have trouble after reaching a point of comfort. However we need to push each other harder to reach ultimate goals.
 
Munto;699830 said:
1cm in less than 10 days is great, that's what I made when I "first" heard about PE :) - amazing
Nice, but after that i was sporadic and didn't work much - now i'm not gonna miss any work out, see how much gains i make in he next couple months

LONGERDICK7+;699837 said:
Of course it is great 30 days =3 cms thats fucking good man! youd be damn massive whitin 3 months .....im one of the hardest gainers here i suck big time haha

Lol, just keep at it man. I made an insane gain in 9 days then was sporadic with my workouts and have only gained a few more milimetres since then
 
LONGERDICK7+;699837 said:
Of course it is great 30 days =3 cms thats fucking good man! youd be damn massive whitin 3 months .....im one of the hardest gainers here i suck big time haha

I hear you.
haven't made any gains in a while :/
 
It doesn't matter if you're a beginner or an expert, lets get fucking huge. Penis enlargement every single day no breaks that what it takes to get a monster cock.
 
Munto;699869 said:
I hear you.
haven't made any gains in a while :/

Sometimes it comes in spurts so never sleep on the routine. Gains are right around the corner!
 
Plateaus are a bitch. Usually, one quick change can keep that plateau from coming. It's amazing how our bodies work. When they become used to a certain activity we adjust and have to constantly keep changing.
 
PGApro;699973 said:
Plateaus are a bitch. Usually, one quick change can keep that plateau from coming. It's amazing how our bodies work. When they become used to a certain activity we adjust and have to constantly keep changing.

This is so true! My 1st year I was crazy-determined and maybe missed 2 or 3 days out of 365 and made great progress...then I seemed to have plateaued. Now I train 2-3 times per day Tu-Sat and then spend time w/my GF late Sat-Tu AM. So I train for 4 days, have sex for 3 days and back to training and it has helped me break-past the 8.25"-8.375" ceiling...I'm a consistent 8.50" BPEL and I'll continue w/this schedule until I reach another hard-stop.
Staying consistent but also varying the routine seems to be the best recipe for me
 
PGApro;699973 said:
Plateaus are a bitch. Usually, one quick change can keep that plateau from coming. It's amazing how our bodies work. When they become used to a certain activity we adjust and have to constantly keep changing.

I have come to many Plateaus but remember this as a wise analogy, when climbing Mt. Everest you are never climbing straight up, you climb to Plateaus and even dips that may seem like your progress is lacking, this is simply not true. PE is going to be climbs, plateaus, dips and gains. What matters most is you keep climbing.
 
As a complete newbie I gained 1.2" within 6 mths. That wasn't even putting in a lot of time. Gains have slowed down but are still coming pretty strong. I wouldn't worry about it.Just do it. I think if you obsess over gains you will burn yourself out and don't compare yourself with other guys. There are guys who work 1 year straight and get nothing and all of a sudden something "clicks" and they grow like weeds.
 
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