20+ Pound Hangers

[GOMER_PYLE]

To all those who hang with 20 pounds or more, how do you prevent/cope with skin bruising? I tried taking two days off and the bruising went away, but tonight it came back after my first 20 min. set. I don't know what to do so please offer suggestions. Thanks,
GOMER

 

[Bib]

Gomer,

>To all those who hang with 20 pounds or more, how do you prevent/cope with skin bruising? I tried taking two days off and the bruising went away, but tonight it came back after my first 20 min. set. I don't know what to do so please offer suggestions.<

First, we need to clarify what is occuring. Now, please realize that actual deep bruising can occur with hanging. But it sounds as if you have discoloration rather than bruising. The difference is, bruising denotes an actual injury to internal tissues, which may need time off for healing. It is usually ruptured vessels deep within the tissue.

Discoloration is within the skin, and occurs because increased blood pressure forces blood into the interstitial spaces of the skin, and it cannot get out. While it can be unsightly, it is not an injury.

I had many experiences of discoloration while hanging. In fact, I started with a pasty white unit, except for a darker circ scar, and now have a uniform tanned unit with a slightly darker circ scar.

Concerning discoloration and hanging, the best thing to do is learn to manage it. First thing is this; I always found that when I took a couple days off, say for an entire weekend, with no hanging, it was always more difficult to begin hanging again on Monday, and always discoloration was worse. If I could hang even a set or two during the weekend, I did not have renewed discoloration. I also found that the discoloration would fade, whether I was hanging or not. So I learned to just keep on hanging.

Then I found that using Arnica gel, and wrapping to remove discoloration helped me a lot. There are many different types of Arnica montana. The only one that worked for me was the gel in the green tube, found at GNC stores. Very high concentration of Arnica.

Wrapping to remove discoloration is done by wrapping below (toward the base) the discoloration, with a tight enough constriction to trap blood in the shaft. I would wear this for hours at a time. The constriction causes the shaft in front of the wrap to fill with blood, much like a cock ring, but more comfortable. This increases the blood pressure, opens the interstitial spaces, and allows the trapped blood to be washed out. That is my theory anyway.

If worn long enough, you will notice a fluid buildup, much the same as reported with pumping. Also, I believe there is some merit for girth increases with this procedure. Caution: you will have to learn to manage the fluid buildup with hanging. I always did this AFTER my session, in order for the fluid to dissipate before the next hanging session. Hanging with fluid buildup can be intense.

I had two spots on my head before Penis Enlargement from a zipper incident as a child. hehe. They are now gone. I believe this wrapping caused them to disappear.

Hope this helps,

Bigger

 

[GOMER_PYLE]

Cool, thanks a lot. I guess it really is discoloration instead of bruising because the pain is gone after about 3 hours. Here is a link to my progress log with pics 24 hours after hanging and 3 minutes after hanging.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14656

I don't mind the discoloration but the pain is something that I could do without. The pain is not real bad, however. Maybe I'm not tightening the hanger enough or something, I don't know.

 

[Bib]

Gomer,

It might be that you are trying to hang too much weight without the needed experimentation time. There are a multitude of variables when hanging. You need to try as many of them as possible to find what works best for you. The problem is; when you make a mistake, or have something adjusted wrong, the problems are compounded the higher the weight used.

In fact, I guess my entire Penis Enlargement career was spent in experimentation! I happened to gain quite well while trying to find better, safer ways to stress my unit. I guess the moral of the story is; never be satisfied with the status quo. Always look for something better.

I like your setup for hanging, using the fish scale. I will be happy to go over your technique with you, and see if we can find any glaring problems.

I will make some recommendations here, just to start out:

First, 20-25 lbs of stress at this point in your career is a lot. Not saying you cannot handle it, but it will make things more risky as you learn.

Fluid buildup in front of the hanger, the foreskin, is usually a function of wrap tightness, not the hanger. You may have the wrap a little too tight causing the fluid buildup.

As I said above, skin irritation and discoloration can be tricky. Stopping and resting to allow for recovery does not work as well as continueing to hang. For me, the discoloration would subside with continued hanging.

The discoloration shown in the pics is not unusual. At least in my experience. But I would say the amount of stress you have applied so quickly has made it a bit worse. Since you mentioned there is some pain, I would say your decision to drop back is correct.

One thing that many guys have a hard time learning is fatigue. Usually, when I write about fatigue, it is concerning the internal structures, the tunica, fascia, smooth muscle, etc. But the skin can also surely become fatigued. At the point of fatigue, it is absolutely a must, that the stresses be reduced. Continue to hang, applying stress, but at a lower level. When this occurs, it is great! It means that tissues are becoming deformed. You simply do not want to push things and go over the edge from deformation (fatigue) to pain (injury).

Next; in the pic where you are actually hanging, the hanger is not adjusted properly. The top gap is WAY too large. This is what is causing the bad discoloration on the bottom of your shaft. The hanger is placing too much stress on the bottom chamber. Remember, you want the majority of the clamping stress to be on the top sides of the two major chambers. Let out the bottom adjustment hex nuts a good bit, until, when the hanger is fully tightened, the top teeth mesh almost completely.

Also, in that pic, the hanger may not be tightened enough. It appears the hanger has slid down a little too close to the head.

Both the hex nut adjustments, and the hanger tightness are part of the experimentation process I was referring to. It will take some trial and error to get the hex nuts adjusted to where you have the proper hanger tightness for the weight you wish to hang, while having the top teeth meshed properly.

About all I have right now. Need some feedback.

Bigger

 

[stillwantmore]

I agree with BIB. You need to drop the weight down a good deal. If not by half. Youre barely what, three months into it...even though youre not hanging in the traditional sense, with weights that is still way too much resistance. I started with 5lbs and never got above 10lbs for several months. Before my last break, the heaviest I got for actual working sets...more than one set to produce fatigue....was 25lbs. That was after many months however. Most of my more recent sets that have produced my latest length gains were with between 15lbs and 20lbs.

 

[GOMER_PYLE]

Wow, thanks guys. I will adjust the hex nuts accordingly and work from there. I have gotten rid of the pain completely by hot-wrapping with a wash cloth and hot water for 5 minutes before my first set, then 5 minutes immediately after each additional set with a little dry jelqing to get the blood flowing well. The soreness has become virtually undetectable except for the ligs, which is a good thing. The color is also better. I do appreciate your weight advice and I am being more cautious. However, if a lower weight feels "too comfortable" I do adjust it to a higher weight. Since I have started the hot-wraps I have been using 17-20 pounds but it doesn't feel like I'm getting a good work out. I just finished using 25 pounds for 20 minutes and I have a couple pics that were taken IMMEDIATELY(no jelqing, just stretching) after the workout, which was my second of the night. I'll post them here in a few minutes to show you how much better my coloring is. Thanks again for all the help and I'll adjust my hanger like you said, Bib, to where the hanger is squeezing more of the sides before my next set tonight. Thanks again guys,
GOMER

 

[GOMER_PYLE]

Okay here are the pics. I adjusted the hanger and posted pics of what I did. Please let me know what you guys think. I feel a lot more pressure on the sides now and the "teeth" on the hanger are almost completely together. I also posted 2 pics of coloration after sessions WITH hot-wrapping and 2 pics(from my routine thread) WITHOUT hot-wrapping. As you can see, hot-wrapping makes a very big difference. Thanks again for the advice guys.
GOMER

PS: As you can tell in the 2nd pic, the hanger twists to the side while I stretch. Should I see this as a problem? If so, how should I try and fix it?

 

[Bib]

Gomer,

>As you can tell in the 2nd pic, the hanger twists to the side while I stretch. Should I see this as a problem? If so, how should I try and fix it?<

It looks like that is a function of the S-hook reacting to the stationary fish scale, but I am not sure. The second pic looks straighter. I would say you can try simply turning the S-hook over 1/2 turn when you attach it to the fish scale, and see if that helps. But at any rate, it should not matter too much.

I did not know you were not using heat. I recommend that you heat for the first half, of the first half of your sets. IOW, if you use 20 minute sets, then heat for the first ten minutes. If you hang for four sets, then use heat for the first two. Try to cool down while still hanging, however you use heat.

I cannot tell for sure by the pic, but it appears that you may be able to lessen the top gap a bit more. But I am not sure. It also appears that the hanger is now gripping better.

Keep it up. Don't be afraid to try small changes as you grow and learn.

Bigger

 

[stillwantmore]

Gomer, do you have the bottom of the hanger tight against the adjustment nuts? In other words, it should be snugged in between the adjustment nuts and the outer wingnuts. If it's just floating freely between the two...thats not right. I used to before I knew better...BIB corrected me....snug down the bottom wingnuts when I put the hanger on. They should always be snugged down though, the only wingnut you should be adjusting is the top one.

 

[Bib]

SWM,

Great point. I saw that in the pic, but forgot to ask.

Thanks,

Bigger

 

[DLD]

SWM,

Great point. I saw that in the pic, but forgot to ask.

Thanks,

Bigger

Welcome back Bib, I hope your holiday was good.

 

[GOMER_PYLE]

Gomer, do you have the bottom of the hanger tight against the adjustment nuts? In other words, it should be snugged in between the adjustment nuts and the outer wingnuts. If it's just floating freely between the two...thats not right. I used to before I knew better...BIB corrected me....snug down the bottom wingnuts when I put the hanger on. They should always be snugged down though, the only wingnut you should be adjusting is the top one.

Yeah I have them tightened when I hang with it. I only have the wing nuts loose when I'm adjusting the inner nuts so that I have more room to work with. I have it ever so slightly toed in also.

 

[GOMER_PYLE]

Oops I forgot to ask another question. When i'm putting the hanger on should I put it on to where the bottom of my shaft is no lower than the bottom of the gel? The reason I ask is because in these pics, the top is tightened more than usual which is pinching the skin on top of my shaft. But then again I don't want to attach it to low and get pinched by the hinge or other hard material. Thanks,
GOMER

EDIT: Bib, the reason that the second hanging pic looks straighter is because I leaned way over to my left to take it. I did this to give you guys a better shot of the top adjustment. I don't think that the twisting will hurt anything but I just wanted to ask to make sure.

 

[GOMER_PYLE]

Update: I adjusted the hanger like Bib said to and it made a world of difference. The coloration is already a lot better so I'll take pics of the improvements here in a few days.

 

[DLD]

Update: I adjusted the hanger like Bib said to and it made a world of difference. The coloration is already a lot better so I'll take pics of the improvements here in a few days.

The Bib can be fine tuned with such ease. The amazing thing I found with my Bib is that a simple adjustment can make the difference between a comfortable, productive session or a one that is uncomfortable. It is a definite learned art between the wrapping, adjustments to the Bib, angles and weight...when it all comes together the stretch is incredible.

 

[GOMER_PYLE]

when it all comes together the stretch is incredible.

Yes it is. Like I told you a long time ago, my fingers hurt when manually stretching from what I think is arthritis (I pop them a lot). So when I used to do phase 1 from your pay site my fingers would start hurting like crazy from trying to stretch manually. While I know your exercises work, they can't work for me because of my hands. I am happy to have paid for your program and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power Assist[/words] though. It was the least I could do to help out even though I probably won't be able to use my purchases. I tried using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power Assist[/words] the other night but I still can't get a stretch that is powerful enough. I can tell that the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power Assist[/words] will work wonders for guys with healthy hands and fingers though. Thanks for all the encouragement.
GOMER

 

[dex]

Anybody knows from the pictures if GOMER_PYLE has a discoloration or bruising?
Do the vets thing that this normal and is also a part of hanging?
Do anybody has the same "intense" bruising/discoloration from hanging?

 

[Bib]

DLD,

I had a great holiday. One of the best ever in fact.

Gomer,

>Oops I forgot to ask another question. When i'm putting the hanger on should I put it on to where the bottom of my shaft is no lower than the bottom of the gel? The reason I ask is because in these pics, the top is tightened more than usual which is pinching the skin on top of my shaft. But then again I don't want to attach it to low and get pinched by the hinge or other hard material.<

If you notice, when you close the hanger, the hinge closes very quickly. The left side of the hinge is covered, while the hanger is still very open, by the left side bottom teeth. It is not TOTALLY impossible, but fairly hard to get anything caught in the hinge. That is the way it is supposed to work anyway.

Try to get your shaft as far down in the shaft well as possible. If there is any pinching on top whatsoever, even with the shaft as low as possible, you may have to wrap a smidge tighter, to provide a more compressed wrapped bundle. There should be no pinching whatsoever.

dex,

>Anybody knows from the pictures if GOMER_PYLE has a discoloration or bruising?<

It appears the discoloration is totally within the skin. Just red irritation. A bruise would be darker, blue or even black.

>Do the vets thing that this normal and is also a part of hanging?<

While I was learning, I had similar bouts of this type of discoloration. I would not say it is normal, but not unusual.

>Do anybody has the same "intense" bruising/discoloration from hanging?<

Yes.

Bigger

 

[GOMER_PYLE]

I think I'll be okay, I just need to make sure I cover all my bases before I hang.