quazimodo_007;737223 said:
�naked people movies� has done to men what fashion models have done for woman fucked us up.

Indeed. After staying away from �naked people movies� for a good amount of time I have started to renew my mind. It was so hard in the begging as I had fresh memories of the filth I was watching. As time progressed and I stayed further and further away from �naked people movies� my mind started to go back to 'normal'. I am in no way cured and I will never master this, I am a man who is fallible, but I am also a man who can see success in the smallest detail. The freedom from �naked people movies� is amazing! It used to dominate my mind, all I did was get deeper into the mire of �naked people movies� until I was watching some pretty messed up stuff. Today I feel differently, I feel happier, I feel more deserving of the righteousness Jesus gives to all who believe in Him. My life has improved on all fronts, my family, friends, the Brotherhood, my view of women, my view of myself! I actually like myself today instead of the hate I had for myself when I was doing those things.

God be with every one of you who are struggling! You are all in my prayers!
 
cladre60;737220 said:
On the flip side if I'm at 6.375" BPEL it's hard for me to believe I'm bigger than 96% of guys out there now. Even my starting size put me way above the 50% mark.

The more I think about it the more I think this study has some flaws and it's more than just the sample. If it really is accurate I'm going to be showing my erect penis to EVERYONE and saying "just like my ASVAB score, 99th percentile!"
Fine! Whatever! You know, I'm tired of begging you guys to realize how big you really are, so fuck it, I'll say what you want to hear anyway: This study is bullshit that created just to make you feel better about yourself (Yeah like they care about your feelings... ha ha). The truth is that the real average size is 14"x9", every men in the world have this size except for us (Didn't you know this? It's a fact! Unlike those studies...). We have very small penises and that's why we read studies that make us feel better about our body. Our penises are so small and tiny that we should be ashamed at ourselves for being way below average and not having the "right" size of 14"x9". Every woman should laugh at us when she sees our tiny cocks, because it is ridiculous how small they are and if she doesn't laugh there is probably something very wrong with her. Nothing will help us even if we would do PE for ever and ever because there is no hope for us.
Does it make sense to you? Is it easier to believe? Does it follow your perception of reality or maybe I was not generous enough and the real average is bigger than this?
Come on guys get real...
 
IAmSpartacus71;737299 said:
Fine! Whatever! You know, I'm tired of begging you guys to realize how big you really are, so fuck it, I'll say what you want to hear anyway: This study is bullshit that created just to make you feel better about yourself (Yeah like they care about your feelings... ha ha). The truth is that the real average size is 14"x9", every men in the world have this size except for us (Didn't you know this? It's a fact! Unlike those studies...). We have very small penises and that's why we read studies that make us feel better about our body. Our penises are so small and tiny that we should be ashamed at ourselves for being way below average and not having the "right" size of 14"x9". Every woman should laugh at us when she sees our tiny cocks, because it is ridiculous how small they are and if she doesn't laugh there is probably something very wrong with her. Nothing will help us even if we would do PE for ever and ever because there is no hope for us.
Does it make sense to you? Is it easier to believe? Does it follow your perception of reality or maybe I was not generous enough and the real average is bigger than this?
Come on guys get real...

What's toys 14x9 shit? You gotta be 12" girth for her to feel it! It's made for babies to come out of, it can handle that much girth! Lol

The thing that doesn't make sense is when you apply how statistics are supposed to work in any study like this. 2 standard deviations in either direction is supposed to be the outlying edges of "normal" in the results of ANY study. Based on my math that means 4" BPEL is the low end of normal. Come on, that's tiny.

I have zero problem believing the result that right around 5.1" is in the middle and you've got a swing in either direction that is considered normal. I simply think their swing of what is normal is wrong or, like you said, there could be a positive skew in the results. If there is they failed to mention it AND they didn't set up their handy slide thing to accommodate it.

Yes I'm getting very technical with all of this and really digging into their results. I had a few semesters of analyzing, interpreting, and writing up results of data. This brings back old memories for me and it was actually kind of fun to pick it apart.

I still think they screwed up something though.
 
cladre60;737302 said:
What's toys 14x9 shit? You gotta be 12" girth for her to feel it! It's made for babies to come out of, it can handle that much girth! Lol

The thing that doesn't make sense is when you apply how statistics are supposed to work in any study like this. 2 standard deviations in either direction is supposed to be the outlying edges of "normal" in the results of ANY study. Based on my math that means 4" BPEL is the low end of normal. Come on, that's tiny.

I have zero problem believing the result that right around 5.1" is in the middle and you've got a swing in either direction that is considered normal. I simply think their swing of what is normal is wrong or, like you said, there could be a positive skew in the results. If there is they failed to mention it AND they didn't set up their handy slide thing to accommodate it.

Yes I'm getting very technical with all of this and really digging into their results. I had a few semesters of analyzing, interpreting, and writing up results of data. This brings back old memories for me and it was actually kind of fun to pick it apart.

I still think they screwed up something though.

I've read about guys with 4" going to the doctors thinking they have micros and the doctor just saysthat's a normal size. Honestly there's never going to be a perfect study lol. Maybe we just subconsciously assume that bigger dicks are normal because of �naked people movies�?? I agree 4" seems smaller than average and I know the study was BPEL but I'm just going to take the measurements as if they were NBPEL just to be safe lol
 
Hangingainz;737385 said:
I've read about guys with 4" going to the doctors thinking they have micros and the doctor just saysthat's a normal size. Honestly there's never going to be a perfect study lol. Maybe we just subconsciously assume that bigger dicks are normal because of �naked people movies�?? I agree 4" seems smaller than average and I know the study was BPEL but I'm just going to take the measurements as if they were NBPEL just to be safe lol

As the prefix ‘micro’ suggests, people with a Micropenis have a relatively small penis. But how small exactly is a Micropenis? The condition refers to any penis which, when stretched, is 2.5 standard deviations below the mean size for the age of the patient. What does 2.5 standard deviations below the mean work out as? In adults, the condition refers to any penis smaller than 2.8 inches in bone-pressed stretched-length. So an erection, bone-pressed that is under 2.8" is considered micro-penis.
 
Hangingainz;737385 said:
I've read about guys with 4" going to the doctors thinking they have micros and the doctor just saysthat's a normal size. Honestly there's never going to be a perfect study lol. Maybe we just subconsciously assume that bigger dicks are normal because of �naked people movies�?? I agree 4" seems smaller than average and I know the study was BPEL but I'm just going to take the measurements as if they were NBPEL just to be safe lol

If I was 4" EL the head would stick out when I wrapped my hand around it. Seems big enough but when measured it still sounds small.

I think I'm going to lean towards the results being closer to EL and not BPEL. Factor in EQ being a little low due to a clinical setting (which was touched on in their results) and it seems a lot more accurate to me. I have unfortunately seen more penis than I'd like (military) and while I know it's a different angle and therefore looks bigger there weren't a lot of guys that ever looked like they'd be below 5".

I'm sure we'd all love to see more results and hopefully someone embarks on that adventure.
 
It really seems like no one wants to agree on a real average penis size. I loved the results in the study that started this thread because it used set standards. They clearly stated the criteria was BPEL and compiled from 18k results. It put average BPEL as 4.5-5.5" and that seemed very realistic (although I thought 4.5" BPEL was pretty small to be considered average).

I came across this "gem" today

https://www.askmen.com/sex/sex_education/average-penis-size/

Now they're claiming to have used data of 50 studies containing a total of over 11k measurements. This is claiming 5.5-6.3" average. Then they immediately quote another that used 25 studies and came up an average of 6". They did not state which measurements were used (BPEL or EL) and if it was done by pros or self reported or both.

When the hell are they going to get the real, true, no BS average BPEL EL and Girth measurements?! Lol damn.


Side note - anyone know how I could convince my wife that while I love her I really want to do �naked people movies�. Doesn't mean I want her any less, doesn't mean I want an "open relationship" where we can each have sex with others as long as rules are followed, I don't want to be banging co-stars off camera...I simply want to have sex on camera knowing other guys are wishing it was their cock getting the action. Hell I'd consent to occasional MMF 3somes where all focus is on her pleasure to make things "fair."

Damned it, I just want the world to see my cock in action making young, slim bodied, big tittied, tight holed women scream their heads off in pleasure.
 
cladre60;750335 said:
It really seems like no one wants to agree on a real average penis size. I loved the results in the study that started this thread because it used set standards. They clearly stated the criteria was BPEL and compiled from 18k results. It put average BPEL as 4.5-5.5" and that seemed very realistic (although I thought 4.5" BPEL was pretty small to be considered average).

I came across this "gem" today

https://www.askmen.com/sex/sex_education/average-penis-size/

Now they're claiming to have used data of 50 studies containing a total of over 11k measurements. This is claiming 5.5-6.3" average. Then they immediately quote another that used 25 studies and came up an average of 6". They did not state which measurements were used (BPEL or EL) and if it was done by pros or self reported or both.

When the hell are they going to get the real, true, no BS average BPEL EL and Girth measurements?! Lol damn.


Side note - anyone know how I could convince my wife that while I love her I really want to do �naked people movies�. Doesn't mean I want her any less, doesn't mean I want an "open relationship" where we can each have sex with others as long as rules are followed, I don't want to be banging co-stars off camera...I simply want to have sex on camera knowing other guys are wishing it was their cock getting the action. Hell I'd consent to occasional MMF 3somes where all focus is on her pleasure to make things "fair."

Damned it, I just want the world to see my cock in action making young, slim bodied, big tittied, tight holed women scream their heads off in pleasure.

Not bragging in any way but no one on this planet has studied average penis size than me! I have every reputable study, every MOS study, every possible medical study and after crunching all numbers, time and time again. Anytime something new arrises that has validity I will also crunch but out of every study I have conducted or studied and have constantly come to the measurement of 5.5 x 4.75. There are exceptions one way of the other but for most of the world on average, 5.5 x 4.75. If you took the same study hear it would be higher average size because we are gaining, but in a world that does not include PE, average size is right where I pegged it.
 
Woman are terrible at gauging size, guys generally lie about there size. �naked people movies� warps our minds and �naked people movies� stars lie about their size. Im 23cm x 16cm at thickest now thanks to PE used to be 20cmx13cm<-------------------- at this sizehooker who couldn't speak English jaw dropped open and she said biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig, a guy in my gym looked at me with a complete look of shock terror when he saw me flaccid, my flacid bigger than average erect. Average size probably 5.5x 4.5. <------- if you are thin at this size you dick will look big if you are fat it will look small. This who situation fucked with my head for years.I think im very very big especially for a white guy I had a size queen throw herself infront of my car to get my attention.


When I was at 8 inches bone press, my fat pad was very small and I was told by a few women that I have a big penis. The feeling is out of this world.
 
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