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Bigjoe, its not just about something that kong feels strongly about. I know for a fact that swank, skepdick, shithead, and kooky do not oppose FR, and kong and everyone else dont understand that. The entire point (more than one can be made) has been repeated over and over again but no one seems to get it except for a select few. I dont understant it...kong is the reason for all of this. I bet half the people didnt even read an 1/8 of the replies to the threads in which this matter has evolved around.
 
Aares, I read about 3/4 of the posts related to this matter, but since everyone involved seems to enjoy going back and forth it gets a bit tedious if not pretty disheartenin to read. I understand that those individuals don't oppose FR as I remember Swank particularly saying it more than once. I'm just saying that the counter has been put out there for everyone to read, and if someone wants to begin doing something without reading well into it before deciding if they really want to or not thats really their problem. All I'm saying is that some people just need to put their egos aside and just stop already, its really more trouble than its worth
 
I must say here too that, Although I agree with the pro's of FR and the majority of what Kong says, and I disagree with pro circumcision 'Medical Sheets' etc, I feel it is wrong to start parading Mod powers into this, and I personally would feel it is wrong if DLD just came in and started waving his Admin powers over people banning them left right and center etc just becuase this section is heated and in high debate. This is one of the greatest debating forums I have seen on ANY forum, so mods don't spoil it by shutting people up with bans etc.
You would also have to have read every single thread here to understand that neither of them have done anything wrong other than strongly disagree with each other, and yes Kong has made personal remarks against people yet he has apologized for this, so if anyone is in the wrong with this it is kong for making it personal but it isnt about who is wrong and right, it is about keeping the debates as they are with no personal slagging off and insults which is the only thing that has been done wrong here.
 
Okay lets get this ended once and for all.
Lets ALL agree who enters this section to be more thoughtful when posting, and show more respect and caution. Kong has made a complaint so we get involved, a member of the forums isnt happy....thats Kong so I and Still have taken it upon us to check it out. This public thread is best, because it isnt single'ing peole out...I cant speak for others, but my thread isnt targetting a certain person or persons...no names are mentioned. I have kept it professional. All I want is for whoever keeps getting on Kongs nerves to please tone it down and stop doing so. I have seen the amount of argumentative threads posted in here and it isn't fair. If you have something negative to say, thats fine....infact I promote it at my site on constriction, go and see. If its done mature and sensible than thats fine, but alot of the talk in here has been bashing and just going on and on non-stop when the runner of the section [Kong] has clearly stated he doesnt want to keep hearing it. Please lets let this drop. Turn over a new leaf now, lets get normal and start being more freindley in this fucking section. This is infact a main reasons why I NEVER come in here....its too hostile at times. Please lets just move on and stop going on and on about the same things, bashing the same things and people even. Sometimes its best for those who appear to live in this section to move about more in the other sections, that way they wont be so absorbed in this FR and get so damn obsessed with it. None of you can call me....I have been VERY fair....I havent named a single person on here, names have been assumed, but I aint said a word. A fair warning has been given to all who come in this section and if trouble keeps going on than warnings will be given. Next route of action after that is a ban. This type of order is Unrest, its creating unrest in this section ATM. Anyway, lets just move on and try to change. This will be probably and hopefully the lastime you hear from me in this section unless I'm called upon. But mark my words, I wont hesitate to get permission in banning anyone who keeps takeing the piss in here.
 
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it is about keeping the debates as they are with no personal slagging off and insults which is the only thing that has been done wrong here

Spot on
 
I read about 3/4 of the posts related to this matter, but since everyone involved seems to enjoy going back and forth it gets a bit tedious if not pretty disheartenin to read.

That's my main concern, not who's right or wrong, who says what to who, and what kind of language is used. It's this tiresome, pointless and endless "debating". I honestly think this kind of debating is unfair. It goes a little something like this: I make a statement, it's called into question, I present proof, that's called into question, repeat 15 times, I get pissed, everyone looks all innocent and points fingers at me, then I give up and they all chortle and say they won. From now on, if you want me to prove something, I will try, and if you question that, then you need to have your own proof disproving it or shut up about it. Got it?
 
Kong, new forum guidlines are being created specifically outlining conduct. Many people here have chipped in and said that your language and posting was far more offensive than anybody else's.

It is not your place to tell anybody what to do, on what grounds they can object to your statements, or to 'shutup.'
 
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