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That your expansion seems to be how to be expressive or giving you the best way forward. Expressive means how much you can see of the entire penis
So, nothing to worry about unless it balloons more I take it?

I've also given myself a blood blister the size of the tip of my pinkie from trying bundled stretches to warm up. Its got a white area in the middle. No pain, just doesn't look nice and seeing my girl tomorrow. Not sure it'll go down by then. Bacitracin, hydrocortisone or MOS-RED | NIR INFRARED LIGHT THERAPY FOR ERECTION QUALITY to help heal I'm guessing?
 
Sorry about the late reply. Got a bit of an account issue.

What is quite common, my targets?
Rather than the target, it's better to ask, "Where are you at the moment?" 3inHg to 3.5inHg is the common pressure of an internal erection. Going anywhere beyond that is already your target. But, you have to ask yourself, are you feeling comfortable without any pain going up past 5inHg? If you feel pain even at 4inHg, stay at 4inHg until your penis gotten used to the pressure. If you can go up to 5inHg comfortably, that is your new safe lower pressure limit. From there, it's about knowing when to go up comfortably. Know how much higher you can climb safely and comfortably. If you hit the pressure that makes your entire penis feels like it's expanding to the point of a dull pain sensation, that is your upper limit. Don't stay there too long. Drop 0.5inHg to 1inHg below that.

I am not sure at all whether i am achieving this, but difficult to measure after a pump as I'm not 100% erect?
That is correct. You must remain erected in the cylinder as much as you can. Don't let up on the erection. This is where the true expansion comes in.

Ok, but not getting expansion with seemingly high intensity on both? But yet, equally potentially harming a vein as it might be bulging too much.
Not getting the expansion at high vacuum pressure is the worst way to get yourself blisters, thrombosis, and penile failure. This is why you must have strong erection inside the cylinder. With strong erection, you are occupying all the volume required for a solid erection. Any extra blood going in will push your erection expansion further. Vein does not bulge beyond their capacity if you approach it safely. To approach it safely, 100% erection is required. This is your alarm system. When your internal chambers are over reaching its capacity to expand, it sends SOS message through the nerves telling you to stop. For those pumping with only 70% or 80% flaccid state all the time at high pressure, dangers lay await as your penis cannot tell where the expansion starts and where danger threshold begins.

Ok, so the Slow Squash Jelq should just be targeting the glans?
SSJ targets everything, from the base to the glans. When the OK grips being held at the base, it expands everything. If they are at the base and at the glans, it focuses in between. If you jelq from the base to the glans, the glans gets most of the expansion due to rising terminal pressure.

Ok, definitely not achieving this....I couldn't do that without essentially edging for an hour and i domt have time to be doing thay. I'm a bit confused here as I have great EQ, so I don't know how you guys would be achieving this.
Time, dedication, sacrifice, tears, and willingness to go the distance. I don't watch TV, so I listen to publication journals and books in all studies while I do my PE. I eat while doing PE. I work while doing PE. I play with my wife while doing PE. See the sacrifice of personal space and time?

Starting to feel a touch deflated at the moment as I am trying the routine, but seemingly not getting the expansion I need. So not sure where to go with it. I'm already going between 4Hg and 5Hg and taking the Slow Squash Jelq to a level where sometimes I get spots, sometimes I'm quite close to that point (like I see them during the session but they don't stay). What am I getting wrong? Or maybe I'm not, I'm just not noticing the expansion I have created?
At 4inHg, how do you feel? What about at 5inHg? What happens when you go from 0inHg, slow down at 4inHg, and go straight to 5inHg? What do you feel along the entire length of the shaft?

So, nothing to worry about unless it balloons more I take it?

I've also given myself a blood blister the size of the tip of my pinkie from trying bundled stretches to warm up. Its got a white area in the middle. No pain, just doesn't look nice and seeing my girl tomorrow. Not sure it'll go down by then. Bacitracin, Hydrocortisone or mosred to help heal I'm guessing?
Blood blister is an indicator you went up way too fast, too high, and staying there for too long. 5 minutes max. The balloon vein that you see is yoru penile body indicating that more blood than usual occupying that area. You're not fully preconditioned yet to climb too high. It goes back to the above questions, "What do you feel?" in terms of fully erected expansion in the cylinder while under the different vacuum pressure.
 
Sorry about the late reply. Got a bit of an account issue.


Rather than the target, it's better to ask, "Where are you at the moment?" 3inHg to 3.5inHg is the common pressure of an internal erection. Going anywhere beyond that is already your target. But, you have to ask yourself, are you feeling comfortable without any pain going up past 5inHg? If you feel pain even at 4inHg, stay at 4inHg until your penis gotten used to the pressure. If you can go up to 5inHg comfortably, that is your new safe lower pressure limit. From there, it's about knowing when to go up comfortably. Know how much higher you can climb safely and comfortably. If you hit the pressure that makes your entire penis feels like it's expanding to the point of a dull pain sensation, that is your upper limit. Don't stay there too long. Drop 0.5inHg to 1inHg below that.


That is correct. You must remain erected in the cylinder as much as you can. Don't let up on the erection. This is where the true expansion comes in.


Not getting the expansion at high vacuum pressure is the worst way to get yourself blisters, thrombosis, and penile failure. This is why you must have strong erection inside the cylinder. With strong erection, you are occupying all the volume required for a solid erection. Any extra blood going in will push your erection expansion further. Vein does not bulge beyond their capacity if you approach it safely. To approach it safely, 100% erection is required. This is your alarm system. When your internal chambers are over reaching its capacity to expand, it sends SOS message through the nerves telling you to stop. For those pumping with only 70% or 80% flaccid state all the time at high pressure, dangers lay await as your penis cannot tell where the expansion starts and where danger threshold begins.


Slow Squash Jelq targets everything, from the base to the glans. When the OK grips being held at the base, it expands everything. If they are at the base and at the glans, it focuses in between. If you jelq from the base to the glans, the glans gets most of the expansion due to rising terminal pressure.


Time, dedication, sacrifice, tears, and willingness to go the distance. I don't watch TV, so I listen to publication journals and books in all studies while I do my PE. I eat while doing PE. I work while doing PE. I play with my wife while doing PE. See the sacrifice of personal space and time?


At 4inHg, how do you feel? What about at 5inHg? What happens when you go from 0inHg, slow down at 4inHg, and go straight to 5inHg? What do you feel along the entire length of the shaft?


Blood blister is an indicator you went up way too fast, too high, and staying there for too long. 5 minutes max. The balloon vein that you see is yoru penile body indicating that more blood than usual occupying that area. You're not fully preconditioned yet to climb too high. It goes back to the above questions, "What do you feel?" in terms of fully erected expansion in the cylinder while under the different vacuum pressure.
Ok, appreciate you are replying to a lot of people but sometimes your answers don't bear any correlation to what I've been asking...

I am going into the tube 100% erect, always, I've notnsaid otherwise. I'm talking about my expansion after when using a cockring.

The blister was due to attempting a bundled stretch nothing to do with pumping. (The vein I pictured was pumping and a different conversation)

I've talked at length about how I dont think the SSJ is targeting the lower shaft. You then tell me its only meant to target the upper portion anyway, and now you're again saying it targets the whole shaft. I'm getting very confused.

I'm going 4Hg creeping up to 5Hg, there's no pain. I wouldn't do any exercise that caused pain. It feels like I'm getting good suction, but the end result is not expansion like you are describing, hence the frustration.

Re your comment about constantly doing PE, I can't dedicate that much of my life to it... I can stretch in the morning and wear a sleeve while I work, and I can do Girth program (SRT 5x5x3) in the evening, and I am trying to understand the state I need to be in in the cockring, but as yet I am not getting the answer I need. If you are telling me I need to remain somewhere between erect, and pump expanded (that I'm not even getting), simply putting a cockring on and starting to study will not achieve that... I would need to sit there playing with my dick for an hour to keep it that hard. This is where I have further confusion.
 
Ok, appreciate you are replying to a lot of people but sometimes your answers don't bear any correlation to what I've been asking...
Got it. The posts nested under pumping questions, expansion related and 5x5x3 routines, so I have to reference under pumping instead of lengthening through LengthMaster - Penis Bundle Stretcher & Weight Hanging. Do identify what happened from specific routine and I'll ensure the answers match the conditions.

I am going into the tube 100% erect, always, I've notnsaid otherwise. I'm talking about my expansion after when using a cockring.
Noted.

The blister was due to attempting a bundled stretch nothing to do with pumping. (The vein I pictured was pumping and a different conversation)

I've talked at length about how I dont think the Slow Squash Jelq is targeting the lower shaft. You then tell me its only meant to target the upper portion anyway, and now you're again saying it targets the whole shaft. I'm getting very confused.
SSJ does indeed target any portion of the penile shaft, with one limit. To recap, it depends on how the grips are being used and placed, and based on grip strength. The only option that cannot be expanded is the very base of the penis, as that location is the primary location. Where the blood restrictive starts for the SSJ. It works the entire shaft, minus the portion where the grip initiated. Based on your index finger width, it may be 0.25in to 0.35in. However, base gain is quite fast in comparison to the rest of the shaft through the larger pumping cylinder. Hope this clears up this point.

I'm going 4Hg creeping up to 5Hg, there's no pain. I wouldn't do any exercise that caused pain. It feels like I'm getting good suction, but the end result is not expansion like you are describing, hence the frustration.
Got it. If there is no dull discomfort from 4inHg to 5inHg, that means your lower pressure is already at 5inHg, and your moderate pressure may have shifted from 5inHg to 6inHg. Remaining at 5inHg for comforts will not benefit you as it's the staring point. Slowly creep up to 6inHg and reobserve the expansion. You must feel that dull achy sensation during pumping to optimize your expansion. Do keep us updated on your moderate pressure zone for both yours and our records.

Re your comment about constantly doing PE, I can't dedicate that much of my life to it... I can stretch in the morning and wear a sleeve while I work, and I can do 5x5x3 in the evening, and I am trying to understand the state I need to be in in the cockring, but as yet I am not getting the answer I need. If you are telling me I need to remain somewhere between erect, and pump expanded (that I'm not even getting), simply putting a cockring on and starting to study will not achieve that... I would need to sit there playing with my dick for an hour to keep it that hard. This is where I have further confusion.
Let's provide proper clarity.

You are doing stretching in the morning and not pumping. Noted. After stretching, wear a sleeve or wrap to continually maintain elongation. There is no erection or cock ring wearing during this period. You are focusing everything on elongating throughout the day.

At night, you shift to 5x5x3 for expansion to focus on girth. Noted. After pumping, use the cock ring for as long as you can before bed time. This will maximize the gap potential for cellular regeneration for girth growth. During this post pumping routines, as you wear your cock ring, get a full erection at first. This is just to force blood into your expanded penis to reach the newly expanded state, provide blood with oxygen rich and cellular rebuilding components, and allow the cells to fill in the gaps for the next X hours of wearing. Once you have your blood filled up into the penis, you don't have to remain erected. At this point in time, your blood volume that filled the penis is actually at a level between your old erection state and the newly pump expansion state. You just want that blood volume to keep the newly expanded state in the penis as long as you can and not the erection itself. If can remain erected and force more blood into the penis through kegels, even better, but not needed. Every 5 to 10 minutes, recycle new blood by squeezing the old blood out, and get another full volume of blood back into the penis with and erection. This is to prevent blood clotting.

Hope the summary clears up the needs. From here on out, we'll stay with this routine.
 
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Got it. The posts nested under pumping questions, expansion related and 5x5x3 routines, so I have to reference under pumping instead of lengthening through LM. Do identify what happened from specific routine and I'll ensure the answers match the conditions.


Noted.


Slow Squash Jelq does indeed target any portion of the penile shaft, with one limit. To recap, it depends on how the grips are being used and placed, and based on grip strength. The only option that cannot be expanded is the very base of the penis, as that location is the primary location. Where the blood restrictive starts for the Slow Squash Jelq. It works the entire shaft, minus the portion where the grip initiated. Based on your index finger width, it may be 0.25in to 0.35in. However, base gain is quite fast in comparison to the rest of the shaft through the larger pumping cylinder. Hope this clears up this point.


Got it. If there is no dull discomfort from 4inHg to 5inHg, that means your lower pressure is already at 5inHg, and your moderate pressure may have shifted from 5inHg to 6inHg. Remaining at 5inHg for comforts will not benefit you as it's the staring point. Slowly creep up to 6inHg and reobserve the expansion. You must feel that dull achy sensation during pumping to optimize your expansion. Do keep us updated on your moderate pressure zone for both yours and our records.


Let's provide proper clarity.

You are doing stretching in the morning and not pumping. Noted. After stretching, wear a sleeve or wrap to continually maintain elongation. There is no erection or cock ring wearing during this period. You are focusing everything on elongating throughout the day.

At night, you shift to 5x5x3 for expansion to focus on girth. Noted. After pumping, use the cock ring for as long as you can before bed time. This will maximize the gap potential for cellular regeneration for girth growth. During this post pumping routines, as you wear your cock ring, get a full erection at first. This is just to force blood into your expanded penis to reach the newly expanded state, provide blood with oxygen rich and cellular rebuilding components, and allow the cells to fill in the gaps for the next X hours of wearing. Once you have your blood filled up into the penis, you don't have to remain erected. At this point in time, your blood volume that filled the penis is actually at a level between your old erection state and the newly pump expansion state. You just want that blood volume to keep the newly expanded state in the penis as long as you can and not the erection itself. If can remain erected and force more blood into the penis through kegels, even better, but not needed. Every 5 to 10 minutes, recycle new blood by squeezing the old blood out, and get another full volume of blood back into the penis with and erection. This is to prevent blood clotting.

Hope the summary clears up the needs. From here on out, we'll stay with this routine.
Excellent guidance 🙏🏽
 
Got it. The posts nested under pumping questions, expansion related and 5x5x3 routines, so I have to reference under pumping instead of lengthening through LM. Do identify what happened from specific routine and I'll ensure the answers match the conditions.
Ok, no problem.
Slow Squash Jelq does indeed target any portion of the penile shaft, with one limit. To recap, it depends on how the grips are being used and placed, and based on grip strength. The only option that cannot be expanded is the very base of the penis, as that location is the primary location. Where the blood restrictive starts for the Slow Squash Jelq. It works the entire shaft, minus the portion where the grip initiated. Based on your index finger width, it may be 0.25in to 0.35in. However, base gain is quite fast in comparison to the rest of the shaft through the larger pumping cylinder. Hope this clears up this point.
Yes, so it is this difference with the grip I was worried about. If I have plam down (facing pubic bone), my grip is further up the shaft than if I do an overhand grip. But, overhand grip makes it a lot more difficult. Hopefully as you say this shouldn't be an issue.
Got it. If there is no dull discomfort from 4inHg to 5inHg, that means your lower pressure is already at 5inHg, and your moderate pressure may have shifted from 5inHg to 6inHg. Remaining at 5inHg for comforts will not benefit you as it's the staring point. Slowly creep up to 6inHg and reobserve the expansion. You must feel that dull achy sensation during pumping to optimize your expansion. Do keep us updated on your moderate pressure zone for both yours and our records.
I'll try and take more notice of the sensation, I have crpt up to 6Hg very occasionally to se how it feels, but it felt quite high pressure. 4Hg feels pretty comfortable I think, soi think perhaps I need to work up to more time at 5Hg, and then start with small periods rising to 6Hg after that.

Some of this I'm sure is conditioning as you say, but I am worried I'm not seeing this expansion just yet. My post flaccid the day after a workout is good though, and if I do too much it then is the opposite.

Ive now just done sone sessions with mosred post blood blister which has helped and also increased the flaccid.
Let's provide proper clarity.

You are doing stretching in the morning and not pumping. Noted. After stretching, wear a sleeve or wrap to continually maintain elongation. There is no erection or cock ring wearing during this period. You are focusing everything on elongating throughout the day.
I was not 100% clear here, I have not yet started this, but it's the aim, and seems achievable. I think I have got most of my answers re pumping and so it would be good to start understanding more about stretching, LengthMaster 3 - Penis Bundle Stretcher & Weight Hanging, bundled stretches.
At night, you shift to 5x5x3 for expansion to focus on girth. Noted. After pumping, use the cock ring for as long as you can before bed time. This will maximize the gap potential for cellular regeneration for girth growth. During this post pumping routines, as you wear your cock ring, get a full erection at first. This is just to force blood into your expanded penis to reach the newly expanded state, provide blood with oxygen rich and cellular rebuilding components, and allow the cells to fill in the gaps for the next X hours of wearing. Once you have your blood filled up into the penis, you don't have to remain erected. At this point in time, your blood volume that filled the penis is actually at a level between your old erection state and the newly pump expansion state. You just want that blood volume to keep the newly expanded state in the penis as long as you can and not the erection itself. If can remain erected and force more blood into the penis through kegels, even better, but not needed. Every 5 to 10 minutes, recycle new blood by squeezing the old blood out, and get another full volume of blood back into the penis with and erection. This is to prevent blood clotting.
So, I find I just end up at a "puffy flaccid" very quickly once in the cockring. Not an engorged soft erection (if that makes sense, I.e. I assume you are meaning erection size, but not actually hard?). This is my concern here. Just realised I am using the Durorings, not the Silirings, maybe I will switch.
Hope the summary clears up the needs. From here on out, we'll stay with this routine.
At this point, should I start a thread on the progress log?

Thanks for your understanding 🙏
 
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This is the vein bulge I am worried about... it has been worse last week, but been more careful since

Then this is simple expression
What does that mean?
Expansion. I had one of these for months when I was stretching with LengthMaster 3 - Penis Bundle Stretcher & Weight Hanging. It finally subsided when I switched to girth work. I think I had it for almost 1 year or more. Nothing to worry about.
 
I'll try and take more notice of the sensation, I have crpt up to 6Hg very occasionally to se how it feels, but it felt quite high pressure. 4Hg feels pretty comfortable I think, soi think perhaps I need to work up to more time at 5Hg, and then start with small periods rising to 6Hg after that.
Good. Make sure to ease up. Don't rush. Comfortable is one thing, but you have to move up to progressive expand. Can't stay comfortable for too long. If you feel a good dull expansion at 5inHg, spend more time at 5inHg. 2 minutes at 4inHg to initiate expansion, 2 minutes at 5inHg to hyper expansion, and back down to 4inHg to continue the expansion.

As you creep to 6inHg, make sure there is no pain. As you creep earlier, do the same creeping for 20 to 30 seconds and back down to 5inHg. Creep up and back down from. The 2nd pumping set, or even at the 3rd pumping set.

Some of this I'm sure is conditioning as you say, but I am worried I'm not seeing this expansion just yet. My post flaccid the day after a workout is good though, and if I do too much it then is the opposite.
This is an indication that you are actually expanding and gaining. Improved flaccid state is very good indicator that you tissues are being conditioned for optimal growth ahead. Keep up with the PE routine discipline and ensure to go up in pressure to loosen up the tissues.

I was not 100% clear here, I have not yet started this, but it's the aim, and seems achievable. I think I have got most of my answers re pumping and so it would be good to start understanding more about stretching, LM3, bundled stretches.
When you are ready for LM3 info, let us know. Don't rush into one thing without exhausting your inquiries on the other first. Allow time to digest and then move forward.

So, I find I just end up at a "puffy flaccid" very quickly once in the cockring. Not an engorged soft erection (if that makes sense, I.e. I assume you are meaning erection size, but not actually hard?). This is my concern here. Just realised I am using the Durorings, not the Silirings, maybe I will switch.
Puffy flaccid is fluid retention. SSJ or reverse C-jelq also helps. Until your penis can reach peak conditioning, achieve that engorged soft erection as you put it is still a month or two ahead. For now, use the cock ring for the post pumping 60 minutes restrictive routine for healing support. Take the cock ring off after that. If you have to, perform one more set of SSJ or reverse jelq to remove all puffy fluid retention.

At this point, should I start a thread on the progress log?
Yes! You are about to go into your growth phases. Don't neglect your recording. Provide detail info of your current and objective stats, the routines you've done, where your pump pressure levels at, and we can use the data to perform analytical approaches. Look at a few brothers' examples to gauge your comfort level for reporting. The more details, the better. Why? If something goes wrong, we can see the patterns immediately.

Thanks for your understanding 🙏
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