8incyclops

0
Registered
Joined
Apr 7, 2006
Messages
1,120
Any of you guys do any weight training? If so what's your routine?

I'm currently doing the "buff dudes 12 week plan"But I injured myself (not related to the program) and have been out for about a week.Hoping to get back into it soon.

I'm trying to gain some muscle and burn fat is this statement below correct??

#To gain muscle you eat about 500 calories above your maintenance BathmateR and to lose fat while keeping muscle you eat 500 below maintenance?
 
8incyclops;577489 said:
Any of you guys do any weight training? If so what's your routine?

I'm currently doing the "buff dudes 12 week plan"But I injured myself (not related to the program) and have been out for about a week.Hoping to get back into it soon.

I'm trying to gain some muscle and burn fat is this statement below correct??

#To gain muscle you eat about 500 calories above your maintenance BathmateR and to lose fat while keeping muscle you eat 500 below maintenance?

This is a typical calculation that most BBer subscribe to. You have the option to measure yout BathmateR, but it's not accurate to assume 500kcal over that in particular.

You'll need to calculate your TDEE (total daily energy expenditure), which is your BathmateR x your activity level. BathmateR is just the amount of calories your body needs to sustain life, like breath. TDEE takes into account your activity.

So once you get your TDEE you can judge if you want to add or drop calories. There's a formula called the Herris Benedict formula for determining your BathmateR and TDEE, it's pretty generic but works well for a guideline.

Most guys realize they are supposed to cram like 3000-4000kcal into their bulk routine, and it's just not feasible if you're just beginning the diet and training. Most people in general eat less than 2000 calories in a day (CLEAN CALORIES, not 3 big macks). So to work up to your dieting goals, and specific TDEE calculated goals, you have to slowly increase your food intake.

I would say measure how much you eat, make a log everyday. Find out how to calculate your TDEE. Compare the numbers. You'll probably be eating way less. That's ok. Just built up your food intake every week or every 2 weeks.

Lets say you find that you're only eating 2500 calories a day *again clean food, no junk food/soda/desserts/empty calories*, and you have to eat 3200 to gain weight based on your TDEE. Well you're not going to add the 800 Calories over night, that's stupid and laws of thermodynamics suggest that all that's going to do is add fat and stress your digestive system.

So take the 2500 cals, and add in 100-200 calories per week until you get up to your 3200 mark. Also, it really depends on your goals, and how cleanly you want to add muscle. The cleaner you eat, the cleaner you'll gain. Eat a shitload of shit, and you'll get strong but also pudgy.

I would start with this, in order. (And take in mind I don't know your daily eating habits, so you'll have to figure that out for yourself via a diet log.)

Cut out all desserts, sodas, fast food, junk food, frozen dinners, highly saturated foods.
Measure your daily intake of food. 3 things - calories, portions, and meal timing.
Keep the log and do this for a few days until you find consistency.
Calculate your TDEE, and asses your goals (bulk for you obviously).
Once you have your daily intake, compare it to your TDEE with your log - compare the gap.
Add in the necessary increase in calories as you lift and slowly over the course of a few weeks/month -depending on how much you're intake is.
Don't add too many cals too quick or you'll get the pudge like I said.
Once you do all this, continue to check your TDEE every 4-12 weeks and tune up your caloric intake based on your new body weight.

Blah long post sorry. Just woke up.
 
I support what Vet said. This is a mania of mine and being a professional fitness coach is what I study at the moment. (I'll have a gap of no loging in since I'll be out of town- to college). I think Vet said everything, and all I can add is that cutting fat and gaining muscle is VERY hard to achieve- through carbohydrate/calorie cycling on w/o and non w/o days. I think Tom Venuto's "Holy Grail of Muscle Building" is a read that would appeal to you :)

My w/o is a w/o I have designed myself. I follow no one's program, I do ny own LMAO :)
 
Do you guys have any particular work out program I'm currently doing this
www.buff-dudes.com/12weekplan/
I'm finding the work load to much particularly now I'm back to work and some of the exercises seem like they are not needed
 
Cut down the volume if it's too much.

Focus on big muscle groups.

Legs Squats
Back Deadlifts
Chest Bench (any angle) or flys
Shoulders Presses
 
Vetiver;577782 said:
Cut down the volume if it's too much.

Focus on big muscle groups.

Legs Squats
Back Deadlifts
Chest Bench (any angle) or flys
Shoulders Presses

Volume as in reps?

Or drop some of the isolation exercises?
 
Last edited:
8incyclops;577783 said:
Volume as in reps?

Or drop some of the isolation exercises?

Yeah drop some of the isolated exercises for now.

Also, when you exercise stay away from the shitty 8-12 rep proclamations.

You want to hit 20 reps with every exercise. If you can't hit 20 with Deads of Squats that's ok.

Start with lighter weight to get the 20 reps in. Also, if you can't finish a set, take a 5-10 second break and then finish it. FINISH IT! :)

If you can't finish it, your weight is too heavy. By doing 20 reps, you can bypass cardio. Fuck cardio. (Not literally, but you'll see what I mean).
 
Vetiver;577788 said:
Yeah drop some of the isolated exercises for now.

Also, when you exercise stay away from the shitty 8-12 rep proclamations.

You want to hit 20 reps with every exercise. If you can't hit 20 with Deads of Squats that's ok.

Start with lighter weight to get the 20 reps in. Also, if you can't finish a set, take a 5-10 second break and then finish it. FINISH IT! :)

If you can't finish it, your weight is too heavy. By doing 20 reps, you can bypass cardio. Fuck cardio. (Not literally, but you'll see what I mean).


A tricky answer this is! LMAO! Well- the reps and the sets of the exercise (and the amount of rest time between sets and exercises) depend on what his goals are. Doing more than 8-10 reps would most probably lead to sarcoplasmic hypertrohy (which is enlarging the sarcoplasm around your miofril to store more nutrients). Sarcoplasmic hypertrophy- while giving size and endurance- it does not give you that much of strength. Depends on what his goals are.....
 
I'm trying to pack on a bit of muscle I'm going to stick with the buff dudes and get rid of a couple of the isolation if I'm not feeling them
 
8incyclops;577855 said:
I'm trying to pack on a bit of muscle I'm going to stick with the buff dudes and get rid of a couple of the isolation if I'm not feeling them

Well if bulking up is your goal just go for the sarco :)
 
You need to condition your muscles. 8-12 reps won't do that for you. When you get more accustomed to how your body responds to lifting, and improve your mind-muscle connection, then I don't see a problem lifting heavier weights. However, lower reps are more for strength as Zam said.
 
Vetiver;577868 said:
You need to condition your muscles. 8-12 reps won't do that for you. When you get more accustomed to how your body responds to lifting, and improve your mind-muscle connection, then I don't see a problem lifting heavier weights. However, lower reps are more for strength as Zam said.

Well yes! I agree that one shouldn't go for the heavy weights from the beginning. Mind-muscle connection in the beginning and neuro-muscluar connection later on (when you go for serious strength training). But 8IC- remember that performing less reps means that the weight goes up... (I felt like I had to clarify it :))
 
Zambrodom3;577871 said:
Well yes! I agree that one shouldn't go for the heavy weights from the beginning. Mind-muscle connection in the beginning and neuro-muscluar connection later on (when you go for serious strength training). But 8IC- remember that performing less reps means that the weight goes up... (I felt like I had to clarify it :))

Right on! Soon he'll be lifting weights with his massive penis too.
 
I've plateaued big time with penis gains but this lifting is going ok so far I'm gong to follow the plan for a bit see how I go I was making good progress before the injury so I'll stick with it
 
8incyclops;577916 said:
I've plateaued big time with penis gains but this lifting is going ok so far I'm gong to follow the plan for a bit see how I go I was making good progress before the injury so I'll stick with it

What kind of injury 8"?
 
Ankle ligaments I pinned 5 mg last week day of injury of tb-500 and another 5 mg yesterday and I'm about 95% better plus only the past 2 days ghrp-2 and mod 1-29

Hoping to be squatting on Saturday I'm going to continue with the hgh peps
 
Damn! Ankles/feet are a pain in the ass to heal, they take forever in some cases because we utilize them on a constant basis. Which peptides do you use in particular? If you don't mind sharing, and also have you ever used legit HGH? I was thinking of getting some for P.E. specifically, and the added benefit of anti-aging - so I'd take a low dose, compared to the higher amount of UI's a BBer would adhere to.
 
Vetiver;577969 said:
Damn! Ankles/feet are a pain in the ass to heal, they take forever in some cases because we utilize them on a constant basis. Which peptides do you use in particular? If you don't mind sharing, and also have you ever used legit HGH? I was thinking of getting some for P.E. specifically, and the added benefit of anti-aging - so I'd take a low dose, compared to the higher amount of UI's a BBer would adhere to.

Just the peptides listed I bought them here in AU I wouldn't touch real hgh even at a low dose because it may shut down your natural hgh production these peps just enhance it but I think you would know a lot more snout it then me.

I actually don't like the gh peptides they make me so sleepy my ankle has improved a lot I'm going to wear ankle braces now while squatting dead lifting
 
Last edited:
I do StrongLifts 5x5 to come back from the injury since November. I had to cut out Deadlifts thougth :( . It's a good routine but all that volume on squats is a killer. I prefer lower sets/reps schedule.
 
Back
Top Bottom