A girl that I thought was a woman turns out to be transgendered...

Sorry, if he still produces sperm, he's still a man. That's just biology.
That's the very definition of male.

We can take on whatever outward appearance we choose and assume whatever label we choose, but facts are still facts.

Ya Im glad you say it like that bc that is SO SO SO ignorant. First I wanna say the way it feels when you guys talk about transpeople this way would be like if all of you were white and I was black. Do you know not long ago they use to say black People werent Penis EnlargementOPLE? Its the same mentality of people who where absolutely sure the world was flat and the sun revolved around the earth! Its the same mentality as people who swear youre going to burn in hell if you do not accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior.

One well known FACT of being trans is you NEVER get in a car or go home with a guy without telling them what you are. That should be in your first few minutes of convo Especially if sex is going to be expected. 2nd of all, there is no ratio of 9/10 that a guy will say oops were sorry we didnt know you were like me down there.

The circumstances are always variable, I have known more men than not and this is my honest experience to say, oh shit your a guy....o well, whats up have a boyfriend.? Its just all of your insecurity and a mans lack of sexual confidence that not only makes him fear it but it also denies him the satisfaction of exploring something pleaurable and completely normal.

You say its not the "usual" but someone like me who is trans nothing is further from the truth. Its you men who are unusual with me....not the other way around. And if you're dumb enough to believe a trans WOMAN is not a she or a trans MAN is not a he then you are absolutely close minded and do not even know what it means to be human. A trans person is TRANS. Like a Zebra is not a horse and and a house cat is not a Lion. Were just like anybody else and its everybody ELSE who makes us not like that.

well to say how to define some women,shemales is tough, i mean some women who have vaginas look manly and have more muscle, some shemales look more female than other girls but have dicks...

You do not want to go home and find her give you...

Alex78;444549 said:

well to say how to define some women,shemales is tough, i mean some women who have vaginas look manly and have more muscle, some shemales look more female than other girls but have dicks...

You do not want to go home and find her give you...

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I actually talked to this person today and told her. I'm not immature, or will call her/him a freak. just told the person what I'm about and that wouldn't sit well with me and that I like a pure female. He/she got angry and I went off. Hope that settles it. Got a female I'm talking to right now that I want to take out for coffee.

Turnover;444525 said:

Ya Im glad you say it like that bc that is SO SO SO ignorant. First I wanna say the way it feels when you guys talk about transpeople this way would be like if all of you were white and I was black. Do you know not long ago they use to say black People werent Penis EnlargementOPLE? Its the same mentality of people who where absolutely sure the world was flat and the sun revolved around the earth! Its the same mentality as people who swear youre going to burn in hell if you do not accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior.

One well known FACT of being trans is you NEVER get in a car or go home with a guy without telling them what you are. That should be in your first few minutes of convo Especially if sex is going to be expected. 2nd of all, there is no ratio of 9/10 that a guy will say oops were sorry we didnt know you were like me down there.

The circumstances are always variable, I have known more men than not and this is my honest experience to say, oh shit your a guy....o well, whats up have a boyfriend.? Its just all of your insecurity and a mans lack of sexual confidence that not only makes him fear it but it also denies him the satisfaction of exploring something pleaurable and completely normal.

You say its not the "usual" but someone like me who is trans nothing is further from the truth. Its you men who are unusual with me....not the other way around. And if you're dumb enough to believe a trans WOMAN is not a she or a trans MAN is not a he then you are absolutely close minded and do not even know what it means to be human. A trans person is TRANS. Like a Zebra is not a horse and and a house cat is not a Lion. Were just like anybody else and its everybody ELSE who makes us not like that.

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There are some guys who are attracted to them and some who are not. I'm not going to not tell the truth about it. Are trans monsters? Hell no! That'd be immature and stupid to think of that way. To call them freaks is out of the question. Some men are attracted to trans and some are attracted to women, some even men.

actually i think you can be a nasty or mean person to somebody who puts up their image as rogue!

Look at women! one tiny mistake when you talk to her and its all over!

She does not like your view on politics,religion or food and she can spill vine on you call you a cunt and we are supposed to just stand there and look all retarded..

Women tease and make fun of guys size and cause them to go and do MOS stuff, spend years to get bigger and when we do they find another thing to poke at...

You do not say fuck off because she is a tranny but because she did not tell you in advance...

Alex78;444562 said:

actually i think you can be a nasty or mean person to somebody who puts up their image as rogue!

Look at women! one tiny mistake when you talk to her and its all over!

She does not like your view on politics,religion or food and she can spill vine on you call you a cunt and we are supposed to just stand there and look all retarded..

Women tease and make fun of guys size and cause them to go and do MOS stuff, spend years to get bigger and when we do they find another thing to poke at...

You do not say fuck off because she is a tranny but because she did not tell you in advance...

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So, was it wrong for me to do that? I don't reject people.

keepingitbig;444552 said:

I actually talked to this person today and told her. I'm not immature, or will call her/him a freak. just told the person what I'm about and that wouldn't sit well with me and that I like a pure female. He/she got angry and I went off. Hope that settles it. Got a female I'm talking to right now that I want to take out for coffee.

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Sounds like you handled it very maturely.... and the fact that he got angry speaks a lot about him. This is like when a girl discloses she has herpes and you lose interest and she gets mad.... you have a right to know what you're sleeping with. People have an obligation to disclose. And in the former case (trans) I agree-they should disclose up front -as soon as the first date is organized (and prior to it happening). This is basic ethics. HE is an asshole for waiting to disclose and more an asshole to get mad because you choose girls over men....

And in the words of a repo man... "Fuck-a John Wayne!"

I've been rejected many of times by women, but it made me much more stronger to actually do better in life. It's so far that I've been rejected by women, because of my race ( not using race though, just saying most women will not go out with certain guys of another race ), so I know how it feels.

I have yet to meet a tranny who is not a crazy mother fucker and I have known whole communities of ts's. That don't mean we can't live fulfilling lives we are just like anybody else.

As for the disrespectfulness of calling her a he and gay and a fuck-around douche bag(john wane), not only does it truly show the character of yourself and the projection of your own image but you are clearly incapable of accepting something that is ultimately discrimination and down right sexist.

Now before you get all bitter and defensive. I just want you to know that you can say all day long, as much as you want, until you are blue in the face that a man is a man and a woman is a woman and what I already said is you are thoroughly wrong. Not only are your words hurtful like I said when people use to say Black people were not actually Penis EnlargementOPLE and it was a known FACT, feels the same as you calling a person who is transgendered a fag to me because I am nothing like a gay man. You don't know me, none of you are like me, and your narrow minded view is offensive and wrong.

I feel like that is your intent (crazydoc) so I don't need to go on and on anymore about it. But I will tell you this, just because you say it, doesn't make it even slightly true. And calling a tranny out as a gay man shows your lack of knowledge on the subject so having your opinion where you have no experience is like trying to fill a bucket with holes in it up with water. I have told you this before and I hope this is the last time I have to say it, if you want to try me.....go ahead.....I have had to take care of guys like you before. I am in a really really low mood these days and if you want to take a couple shots you could really help me get some of this aggression out although nothing could take away this hole in my chest killing me. So I'd rather not.....but push your luck and I'll show you whos crazy.

First, the John Wayne thing was a joke, if you've seen Repo Man, you should get it.

2nd, as a friend, they'd be a "she".... but sorry Turnover, as a person who TRICKED me, no, that's just a guy trying to take advantage. Perhaps you're the one not being objective on this situation.

I never said "fag" or "gay", nor any implication, so you're just way off base there.

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keepingitbig;444568 said:

I've been rejected many of times by women, but it made me much more stronger to actually do better in life. It's so far that I've been rejected by women, because of my race ( not using race though, just saying most women will not go out with certain guys of another race ), so I know how it feels.

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It aint wrong to reject a woman. Tell her straight up ez, "I am not interested" if she says "but I love you" say "sorry not interested" if she keeps saying "but I love you" just tell her "I'm not interested". Trust me if I heard that the first time I would have said "cool" and went on to live my life. But don't call her and talk about your cock, and say how much you like her personality or how much you hate being alone and then expect her to not to tell you "but I love you". If you didn't laugh at her and you respected her she just got mad, we all get mad. She prolly got mad cos she thinks she IS a woman, all trannies think that. I know a 6 year old transexual who had the surgery who was my neighbor because she kept trying to kill herself because she felt like something was wrong.

I feel like that. I can't even touch my dick I am so sad right now. Most trannies would never want Penis Enlargement because they see their penis as a deformity. I never use to but I have my moments. I know that once a trans has the surgery they are no longer trans call it what you like. She has a pussy and she should have everything else done and I'm not going to try and explain how much it is the same as a womans because nobody on this website is going to consider it.

Another thing is a transexual is only called a "shemale" when she is a sex worker. That is �naked people movies� or street walking. It is a slang term like what you call a G.G. or Gender Female(girl) as a Harlot.

I'm not so offended about the thread. I am not offended at all by you KEEP. I think you're contribution to Penis Enlargement is astounding and wonderful. I love Penis Enlargement, I love myself, and I love my body. I have a hard to believing when someone who has never known a ts or even learned about them could dislike them. I hate saying this over and over but it sucks so much to be a person that so many people talk so much shit about and then when all is said in done the way I SEE IT I rarely meet a straight man who does not find me attractive because I just got it like that. All day people act like they care about something they really do not care anything about and I have to hear how much a guy thinks its gay when the only kind of men that EVER EVER EVER EVER hit on me on straight, pussy lovin, beer drinkin, rowdy, tough men. THAT IS THE TRUTH. God as my witness. I love it. sorry. It is also kind of a thing in the gay community how gay people and trans people dont even get along! They dont understand us and we are tired of being thrown into a group like them. There are plenty of fruity gay bois who like to "pose" as girls and we call them queens. But I dont have a lisp, I dont have ultra feminine mannerisms(and theres a difference), I dont like LADY GAGA, I don't wear masculine clothes or cry at the end of Titanic.

What I mean by that is a gay man IS A man. And your homegirl down the street Skylar, she fuckin down to the ground and knows how to be the life of the party. You never know when a tranny might be the one who is there for you when everyone else is gone- ya'll need to quit hatin.

Nobodys hating, youre just confused. I hate ANYONE that tries to trick others into doing something for free (that is, in this case the tranny is getting what they want under false pretenses, that's STEALING) no different than refusing to pay a guy for a job.

YOU need to open your eyes and quit looking for a battle.

And I dig gaga.

I think we can all learn from Turnover on this issue and his posts on this subject has open my mind more on the issue. Keepingitbig, sounded like you handled it alight in the end. For me Penis EnlargementRSONALLY, I'm not into dating or having any sexual liaison with a trans gender person. Sure I may be attracted to one, not knowing they are TG but that doesn't make me ignorant or an ass! That is my choice and I would never be rude or nasty to that person. I would HOPenis Enlargement if I did get in the car with a trans gender that they would be honest upfront about it and so when I got back to my place I wasn't in for a shock because it would not go anywhere, not interested in it. I would ask politely the person leave end off. I think everyone has a right to express themselves and transgender people, transexuals should be able to do this which they do quite openly in the UK as we have areas in many large cities for them to use.

I think that expecting a guy to accept this once he gets home, not knowing the full story and then thinking he has to lay the carpet down and be boyfriends is very selfish. This is then exploiting the rights of the man, that hopefully would have been polite about it but shouldn't have to be expected because of society labels to have a relashionship with someone they had no interest in. I'm only interested in dating and having sex with women who were born as a female, this is NOT being discriminatory to others as I accept them and do not call them but when it comes to someone's personal life and choices it is that .... personal choice.

Crazy Doc I'm pretty chilled homie

REDZULU2003;444579 said:

I think we can all learn from Turnover on this issue and his posts on this subject has open my mind more on the issue. Keepingitbig, sounded like you handled it alight in the end. For me Penis EnlargementRSONALLY, I'm not into dating or having any sexual liaison with a trans gender person. Sure I may be attracted to one, not knowing they are TG but that doesn't make me ignorant or an ass! That is my choice and I would never be rude or nasty to that person. I would HOPenis Enlargement if I did get in the car with a trans gender that they would be honest upfront about it and so when I got back to my place I wasn't in for a shock because it would not go anywhere, not interested in it. I would ask politely the person leave end off. I think everyone has a right to express themselves and transgender people, transexuals should be able to do this which they do quite openly in the UK as we have areas in many large cities for them to use.

I think that expecting a guy to accept this once he gets home, not knowing the full story and then thinking he has to lay the carpet down and be boyfriends is very selfish. This is then exploiting the rights of the man, that hopefully would have been polite about it but shouldn't have to be expected because of society labels to have a relashionship with someone they had no interest in. I'm only interested in dating and having sex with women who were born as a female, this is NOT being discriminatory to others as I accept them and do not call them but when it comes to someone's personal life and choices it is that .... personal choice.

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Exactly-and if he acts like that, he's a selfish guy not considering anyone's feelings. If she behaves herself with proper ethics, I WOULD say "she". I've had TV friends before, not really a big deal-frankly usually pretty easy to spot. I will admit I saw a TS on Jerry Springer once that made me realize one COULD be fooled, even the voice was very feminine/real... and I was indeed attracted on a purely physical level.

The issue here is ETHICS, that is, what zulu said: DISCLOSURE. No different than anything else. I know all about disclosure, I sell real estate. We don't wait until a few days before closing to tell them the house was on fire and has walls full of mold from the firehose-no we tell them UP FRONT when they walk in the house.

As I said, to me the appropriate time would be once an actual date was set or plans to "go back to her place" etc. At that point she should tell you, and if she doesn't, she's just a selfish HE.

Clear yet????

all that hapen was a phone conversation.

So let me ask you. why do u call a ts girl a he? seriously is that ingrained in your knowledge...a transexual is a he? bc i keep tellin u its not and that its even offensive. so y?

furthermore what is the huge problem with calling them a she? thats what i want to know. do you lose any sleep over it or something. bc honestly every time i read it it hurts.

i will never win here